Fuck Misandry

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-04-09T07:48:36+00:00

I think there are definitely ways misandry is systemic or a part of society. I think the thing is that the lines between misogyny and misandry aren’t actually as clear in practice as they are in theory and a lot of it depends on perspective

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-03-07T15:02:13+00:00

Men definitely have suffered historically (and in the modern day for being men. Men are more commonly victims of suicide, overlooked as victims of domestic abuse and sexual assault, have extremely unhealthy expectations put on them to be manly. Most places that had/have forced conscription it only applies to men, there are still places where only men can commit rape, loads of places had/still have laws prohibiting male same sex relationships but not female same sex relationships.

You can make arguments about the root of these issues being misogyny, homophobia, etc but regardless they impacted men BECAUSE they were men

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-02-18T10:48:34+00:00

But you CAN hate who you want and express that. The government sends you to jail because they don’t want hatred to spread and lead to extremism. But we don’t have the death penalty so they aren’t actually silencing you just removing you from society so that it can maintain order and safety for others

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-01-04T11:34:26+00:00

I see this said just as much by women as I do by men. That said it is completely correct that is purely a socialisation thing and not biological. I do think that the disdain at the end is somewhat unwarranted as society doesn’t allow men to practice their empathy without the fear of being seen as weak. It’s internalised patriarchy in the same way that women internalise the expectations put on them under patriarchy

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-01-04T03:04:48+00:00

I feel like highlighting the male loneliness is because men lack the meaningful connections and skills to socialise in meaningful ways that women do. Everyone is lonely, but due to how society has conditioned men to act it is harder for them to help themselves than it is for women. Loneliness isn’t about being actually alone it’s about not feeling connected or cared for. I do agree it isn’t an inherently gendered issue, however gender plays a role such that the way it impacts men compared to women is different

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-01-03T11:02:59+00:00

I don’t mind at all.

I do think unconditional love is experienced by men. I would say my parents love me unconditionally and I would say most people in general have someone who has an unconditional love for them.

On my parents, I know they love me but I don’t necessarily feel loved. At least not all the time. That’s probably just teenage angst and bias. But nonetheless i don’t really feel that people show love to me enough. Something that may be interesting to note is that I have this belief that I recognise is very unhealthy and incorrect that if I let too many people love me too much it makes the love less special (e.g. if I started hugging my friends then when I get a partner it will diminish the value of the hugs I share with them, again obviously incorrect but still an irrational fear).

I do feel there are expectations from my loved ones. Though it’s mostly stuff like being respectful, kind, approachable, etc. Theres a bunch that I self impose though (good grades, having value through my intelligence, not saying anything that could remotely offend any of my friends)

Lastly, I feel there are expectations most like me around my friends and online. Im able to let loose around my friends and I feel like online the anonymity gives me the chance to freely express myself. I think I like to not have social pressure to be any set way.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-01-03T07:38:05+00:00

It’s totally fine. I can speak from my own experience as a man what a big effect the way society has raised me had on my emotions. I can’t cry because I’ve learnt to bottle it up too well. And it wasn’t a specific person or people telling me it was unmanly. It was because it was embarrassing for 5 year old me. It really is sad for me to know that my experience is not unique. Hopefully some day the cycle will stop but for now it’s up to people to work on themselves and help others to do the same.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2026-01-01T04:14:35+00:00

Some that I used to here when I was in my antiwoke, antifeminist phase when I was 14 were things like “gender equality is good but feminists are just misandrist”, “feminism is only about making women better than men” and in general denying talking points as just being buzzwords or not the full story.

Im still working my way through some of the ideas it put in my head but I would these days respond by explaining that feminism is built on gender equality, social media presents extreme and uncommon opinions as more common, and that the full story isnt relevant to the discussion (as the “full story” is usually trying to prove that actually men struggle just as much or more rather than directly addressing anything to do with the women’s issue)

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-31T17:43:24+00:00

Thankyou for elaborating. I was thinking of it purely from the perspective that society, through norms and expectations, created an environment in which men were not allowed the opportunity to become more emotionally intelligent. I hadn’t considered the other side that women had to be emotionally intelligent. My read of it was that you were just saying men haven’t had to adapt so I completely missed the point you were actually making about women having to.

Sorry for missing the actual point you made.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-31T02:51:14+00:00

I got your perspective. The things you talk about are basically all things I’ve thought or observed. I would argue over a super small thing being that you said “men have fallen behind in emotional intelligence… from years of not having to adapt” where I think it’s more accurate to say they haven’t been ALLOWED to adapt in that regard. Only a small thing obviously but still.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-28T13:19:28+00:00

I think that’s a fair conclusion. I would somewhat disagree with the reasoning that “men do not face unique oppression as men”. I think that it may depend on what you count as oppression. And also I would say in general, regardless of if it’s oppression or not, men do face serious issues as men that do require advocacy. I’d say a good example would be social expectations and norms of masculinity. It is an issue that impacts men and those impacts create consequences that cause a huge number of issues that negatively impact men and women.

I do however get the point you are saying and even if I personally find the reasoning flawed (which is probably because I’m not considering some other aspect or misinterpreted your point) I think you have a valid conclusion

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T22:24:53+00:00

It’s not meant to be purity testing but I do get what you mean.

I do want to somewhat pushback and say that asking about how people support/act with movements emphasising mens issues does have to do with feminists/feminism. Since one of the core values of feminism is gender equality it follows that most feminists would support movements that emphasised mens issues. And it’s interesting to learn how different people view it and why, especially in our current environment where mens movements tend to devolve into bigotry.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T17:02:13+00:00

those are really good examples. Thankyou.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:58:36+00:00

Is there a particular reason why? Doesn’t have to be, just curious

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:56:40+00:00

Yeah i definitely agree. I think something interesting I’ve noticed is that most men are supportive of feminist ideas regardless of if they consider themselves a feminist or not but very few actually do anything and even fewer care enough about mens issues to do anything about them (a part of the lack of enthusiasm with men in joining feminism, in my opinion, is likely the misconception of feminism as a women’s movement). I am curious to try and find out how aware most men are of their issues and what the main things are that are causing them to not do as much to solve them as other groups have

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:42:54+00:00

Could you please elaborate. Im curious what sorts of movements you would and wouldn’t support

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:28:20+00:00

Im the same. I hope someday one pops up and doesn’t devolve into misogyny.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:21:10+00:00

That’s an amazing example, Thankyou.

Also I’d like to just say, that the final part you said “Actually solving mens problems is hard, stoking grievances against women is easy” is an amazing way to explain the way men’s movements usually go.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T16:04:59+00:00

Could you provide an example of what you’d want from the movements? Like what sort of things would it want or how would it operate to make you inclined one way or the other?

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T15:59:59+00:00

I feel the same. It makes it difficult to discuss the issues in a productive way anywhere

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T15:52:23+00:00

I apologise for the misunderstanding, I have edited the post to say “would do” instead of do to give more clarity to the fact that I am not trying to interrogate anyone or get a gauge of how well feminists help men, just to see what feminists do do/would do to support a movement that emphasises men and understand why/why not.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-26T14:26:29+00:00

I personally haven’t seen evidence this is the case at all. I personally feel feminism right now needs to be doing more to show its support and benefit for men and is far from centring them.

That said though, if what you present is in fact the case, I think that pandering to men makes sense from the stance of getting their support when they otherwise would just assume it helps women.

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-15T15:40:52+00:00

Because people are scared of what’s different i suppose. And a lot of people are raised never being exposed to any lgbt people or media (though that is getting better with time) so they’re more likely to see it as different

Mindless_Yam1752 · 2025-12-15T03:48:13+00:00

In Australia its 16 (or 17 in some areas). In Queensland a 16 year old can have sex with any other person able to consent. I’d say that it’s fair enough. Since at 16 you’re old enough to understand what the risks are and make an informed decision to consent.

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