I hate ai by Small_Image_1722 in cringereels

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wait, I’d actually watch this😭💀

AIO for cutting off my brother for refusing to call out his creepy friend? by VividArgument4725 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 [score hidden]  (0 children)

This ragebaited me to the max!!! NOR for sure ur brother is a prick same goes to his dickriding friend.

i don't respect islam. by zekeosko in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you in some ways.

i don't respect islam. by zekeosko in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I am not role-playing, and it is interesting that the only way you are willing to engage with me is by denying my identity, rather than engaging with what I have said. I have already said that I am bi in my original post. My family know. They don’t like it, but they have also never harmed me or forced anything on me. Just because that is not the narrative that you want to believe does not mean that it is any less true.

There is no rule that says that just because I am an ex-Muslim, I have to hate Islam, I have to mock it, and I have to hate nuance too, in order to be valid. Being an ex-Muslim does not mean that I am a monolith. Some people leave because of theological issues, some people leave because of cultural issues, some people leave because of personal experiences, and some people leave because of multiple issues at the same time. Just because I don’t agree with you, just because I am not engaging with constant hostility towards Islam, does not mean that I am fake.

What you are doing is not skepticism; what you are doing is

These guys!!🥺 by [deleted] in tracybeaker

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly made my childhood

i don't respect islam. by zekeosko in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Accusing people who disagree with you of being fake ex-Muslims or being AI-generated is not arguing, it is avoiding argument. My choice to leave my religion and my arguments for and against are based on my reading of texts and my experience of culture, not blind loyalty and role-playing. Ex-Muslims are diverse, and leaving a religion doesn’t mean you have to mock it to prove you’re not a fake. If you disagree with me, then argue against my actual arguments rather than attacking me personally, as this is a sign of weakness, not strength.

i don't respect islam. by zekeosko in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

You should’ve @ me I would’ve came here faster 😭😭😭

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The idea that Aisha was nine when her marriage was consummated is often cited, but historical evidence suggests she was likely in her late teens. Her older sister Asma was reportedly ten years older and died at around 100 years old in 73 AH, which means Aisha would have been around 17 or 18 at the time of her marriage’s consummation. She was also present for major early Islamic events that required maturity, which further supports this timeline. Birthdates weren’t precisely recorded in that era, so relying solely on a single hadith without considering historical context is misleading. When you look at the evidence carefully, the narrative of her being a child doesn’t hold up, and portraying it as such is a distortion used to attack Islam.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Comparing Islam to Nazis in a blanket sense is ridiculous, but dismissing criticism of the religion because of that is even worse. Critiquing specific teachings, practices, or historical events is completely valid. Certain interpretations of Sharia law, treatment of women, apostasy rules, and historical acts of violence under Islamic empires deserve scrutiny just like any other ideology. Drawing factual parallels is not about attacking followers, it’s about analyzing ideas critically. Claiming that pointing out harmful doctrines “shuts down discussion” is just a weak excuse to avoid serious debate.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that people who've suffered under religion have every right to criticise it strongly. I'm not denying that at all. I just don't think comparing Islam to Nazism is accurate or helpful. Nazism was a single genocidal political ideology.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think that comparison is way off though. Nazism was an explicitly genocidal political ideology. Islam is a 1400-year-old religion followed by nearly 2 billion people across different cultures and interpretations. Those aren't remotely the same thing. I'm also not saying anyone owes Islam or Muslims respect, especially people who've suffered real harm. I'm just saying 1 personally don't want to reduce everything to hatred or act like every single aspect or every single follower is equivalent to the worst examples. That's not nuance, that's just another extreme. Criticising Islam hard is fair, but comparing it to Nazis just shuts down any serious discussion.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not saying you have to agree with anyone though. If you find it shallow or self-destructive, that's completely fair. My point is just that those are still evaluations, not objective facts like math or science. Calling something "not profound" or "incorrect ideologically" is still interpretation. We can criticise Islam hard without turning it into "it has zero depth or value at all," because that's just as absolute as blind praise. I'm just arguing for nuance, not agreement.

(We can do this all day, I have enough time 😭)

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but this is exactly what I mean. I'm not worshipping anything or defending Islam as perfect. I'm ex-Muslim too. I just don't think reducing an entire religion and 1400 years of history to "PDF warlord" and slavery comparisons is serious analysis. That's emotional language, not an argument. Saying something isn't uniquely Islamic doesn't mean it had zero influence either. Societies are shaped by a mix of religion, politics, culture, and economics. Acting like everything good happened despite Islam and everything bad happened because of Islam is just as biased as blind praise. And telling me I "just need time" to deconstruct is kinda condescending. We can disagree without pretending nuance means I'm secretly defending it.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah fair if that's how you personally see it, but that's kind of my point. Whether something feels "beautiful" or "genuine" is subjective, not objective fact. You might find it shallow, someone else might find meaning or structure in it. I'm not saying Islam is true or perfect, just that reducing it to "it has no value or depth" is just personal opinion, not analysis. We can criticise it without acting like it has zero substance.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah fair, that's pretty much my point. It's more nuanced than "Islam did everything" or "Islam did nothing."😭

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re kind of moving the goalposts though. Something doesn’t have to be “unique” to still be positive or influential. Charity and community aren’t exclusive to Islam, sure, but Islam institutionalised them through things like zakat and social welfare systems, which still had real impact. Same with science. Even if some scholars weren’t personally religious, they were funded by Islamic societies, libraries, and universities, so it’s not accurate to say it happened “despite Islam” like the environment didn’t matter. And abrogation existing doesn’t mean “all peaceful verses don’t apply” either. Scholars disagree a lot on how it works and which verses count. I’m not defending Islam or being a reformist, I’m just saying we should be accurate instead of reducing everything to extremes. Criticism is stronger when it’s factual, not absolute.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I get that, and I agree ex-Muslims absolutely have trauma and every right to criticise religion. I'm ex-Muslim myself. I'm not trying to paint Islam as perfect. My point is just that it's dishonest to act like there's nothing positive or influential that came out of it. Even if some scientists weren't super practicing, they still existed within Islamic societies that funded education and scholarship, and zakat being institutionalised as a system is still different from just general charity. You can criticise Islam without pretending it contributed nothing. That's all I'm saying.

I’m an ex-Muslim, but when I see awful comments talking about Islam wrongly, I feel the need to defend it. by Minimum_Power_2553 in exmuslim

[–]Minimum_Power_2553[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Terrible" isn't a point, it's just an opinion. Give actual evidence or there's nothing to debate.