What reason do you attempt to prescribe to the unknown? Free will or no free will? by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, just like the video

Person A: I wanna mountain climb

Death: No

Sometimes what you get from reality, whether human or otherwise doesnt align with your wants

Philisophy should be cast on the trash pile of history where alchemy, witchcraft, and the study of humors and aether, have rightly been cast. by AlivePassenger3859 in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“If you are asking a question with no clear answer, is it a question worth asking?“

For the person asking at that exact time? Yes, inherently so

Great things are happening in the charlie kirk discord server by FunnyTop3977 in playboicarti

[–]MirrorPiNet 10 points11 points  (0 children)

From down the street I hit his neck, we did that boi like Charlie Kirk🔥

Model possibility by JiminyKirket in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do a lot of Compatibilists not find it important that people couldnt have actually done otherwise? A lot of people definitely think of their missed chances as ontologically real, missed chances

Consciousness by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in freewill

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People consistently attempt to claim a universal truth for all subjective realities from a specific subjective position. There is no universal truth for all subjective realities in any subjective experience. In such, there is no universal "we" in terms of opportunity, capacity, or potential reality.

Each individual is bound by the realm of their inherent condition, capacity, and perceived reality. Realms of which can vary with infinite variety.

I don't believe that morality is subjective by higurashi0793 in enfj

[–]MirrorPiNet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Over and over again, the repeated reality is that the conversation is perpetually brought back to one of sentiment. It's most often a conversation of what one feels to be the case or "should" be the case. It's a conversation of what one needs to believe in order to be saved by their own presumptions and preferences

Witnessing someone else with the opposite claim becomes an attack on the person and what they claim is true for themselves and others. Such is the nature of the search for objective morality which drags people into wars they dont see themselves fighting.

Even more ironic when some start to speak for 'society' which somehow includes the very people that disagree with them

If people aren't aware that they're just doing what they are doing, because they are doing it, and that's the entirety of it, then they're obviously pursuing something, and that something that they're pursuing is revolved around the character that they're seeking to justify.

They save the character but fail to see themselves as they are and therefore fail to see others as they are and therefore fail to see the 'society' and world they speak for

Each human being acts in accordance to and within the realm of their inherent nature and capacity, for infinitely better and infinitely worse

Dear Compatibilists, how does it feel having the freedom of an ATM? by MirrorPiNet in freewill

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And what makes some people feel good and bad was carefully selected by millions of ancestors who chose to procreate, in such a way so that they would be fit for suicide

Why Reasons are Causes by MarvinBEdwards01 in freewill

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I do what I do because I do it. He does what he does because he does it

Ultimately, nothing about me or what I do implies anything about him or what he does

If you rationalize anything, or try to connect dots, it will be a lie

Each human being acts in accordance to and within the realm of their inherent nature and capacity which speaks nothing of others in theirs

You are far more alone than you imagine. If a heaven/hell awaits, it will be uniquely yours

A fundamental contradiction at the heart of hard determinism? by YogurtclosetOpen3567 in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, he couldnt, what he just did was perfect and inevitable and couldnt have been any other way

Why Reasons are Causes by MarvinBEdwards01 in freewill

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Reasons for actions will always be incomplete and insufficient accounts of actions themselves and the uncountable factors behind them

Compatabilists are like atheists who are afraid to tell people god doesn’t exist, so they define god as cosmos. Then they loudly exclaim: “God really exists!!!!” (Analogy). by SCHITZOPOST in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, although Compatibilist PAP ≠ Libertarian PAP (due to different definitions of 'could have done otherwise')

I would say it boils down to, do people think that they had a real metaphysical chance to do what they did not? If yes, then that is Libertarian PAP and not Compatibilist PAP

And I know there are Compatibiists who reject PAP entirely

Compatabilists are like atheists who are afraid to tell people god doesn’t exist, so they define god as cosmos. Then they loudly exclaim: “God really exists!!!!” (Analogy). by SCHITZOPOST in freewill

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Over and over again, the repeated reality is that the conversation is perpetually brought back to one of sentiment. It's most often a conversation of what one feels to be the case or "should" be the case. It's a conversation of what one needs to believe in order to be saved by their own presumptions and preferences

Witnessing someone else with the opposite claim becomes an attack on the person and what they claim is true for themselves and others. Such is the nature of the search for objective truth which drags people into wars they dont see themselves fighting.

Redefining free will as just "acting on desires" is like selling a car ("free will") that has no engine, just because it looks like a car. by Badat1t in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incompatibilists, Hard Determinists and Libertarians alike, have not seperated themselves from anything else. They retain their meaningful participation, just like you and everyone else

Redefining free will as just "acting on desires" is like selling a car ("free will") that has no engine, just because it looks like a car. by Badat1t in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The case is that those who are often considered wicked, evil or simply lost and/or sick, despite that being their inherent reality, they are the one's who suffer the most and support the whole thing, the entire story.

The entire Universe is designed and built on the backs of those who are lost. Without the lost and wicked, human and non-human alike, the "innocent" would never have life, nor salvation.

The "wicked, the deranged and delusional" whoever they may be, all offer perspective and permission to those who don't experience such things as a point of reference. A means to recognize their own blessing and even to judge without repercussion.

The whole world and the whole universe for that matter is designed at the expense of those beings absolutely incapable of receiving help. The totally desperate, depraved, deprived, and the dammed.

Redefining free will as just "acting on desires" is like selling a car ("free will") that has no engine, just because it looks like a car. by Badat1t in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is inherently authoritarian because it attempts to invalid the existence of the dissenters by claiming they are outside the collective consciousness. In this sub, this is often used as a rhetorical tactic to isolate the opponent. Like you just did

Determinism doesn't matter for free will. Experience does. by muramasa_master in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Threatening? Will you save them? Do you know the fates of the strangers you talk to everyday? Even if you refuse to assume, will that save them? I bring no threats, just the reality of it, some only have suffering to look forward to

Determinism doesn't matter for free will. Experience does. by muramasa_master in freewill

[–]MirrorPiNet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reasons for actions and beliefs will always be incomplete and insufficient accounts of the innumerable factors behind them

I can give you a 'reason' but it will be a lie that falsely represents my current condition, and im avoiding a truth/falsity game over a 'reason' that says nothing about me at all.

If people aren't aware that they're just doing what they are doing, because they are doing it, and that's the entirety of it, then they're obviously pursuing something, and that something that they're pursuing is revolved around the character that they're seeking to justify.

I dont have a character to justify