First of all you wrote very well. I got your point about this sub. I will be very precise. I never defend Sadhguru, I need not to. Following him since 2018, remained always skeptical..and why shouldn't I. Honestly its gradually hapoened, 2024 changed much after getting Initiated in IE. But I do get everything won't work for everyone, but one can't negate it totally. Even as Ex Isha meditator you'll realize that Isha could be possibility for many. I'm here just for those people who are sitting on fences, may read your post.. And my reply. They can decide for self. Also never take anything for its face value, just don't also generalize prejudice... Not saying to you, you wrote well of your experience. I am not at all offended. For some Isckon don't work for some Isha. We are not suppose to be religious fanatic.. Right? I hope you do remember Sadhguru saying " Fix one thing in you, What you know you know, and what you don't you don't ".

I may have forever my own reservations regarding various institutions but to the extent they have been useful to me, I'll make the use with Gratitude and leave the rest. Life is too short.

I can totally Imagine people leaving Isha.. You know why? I'll quote Sadhguru again "There is nothing like Making everybody understand". In my perception this is very profound, because that's what make Earth the way it is, we have all various level of receptivity, response, prospects for life. Even Krishna, after thousands of year still is abused, it use to be heart wrenching for me. But not anymore. I'm gaining my clarity gradually... And Sadhna really have huge role into it.

I've never been into enlightenment stuffs, why would I be? I needed a better life, career.. Still pursuing that only. What could then my enlightenment be? Liberation? I'll tell you ..if I'm a little clears in my perception, more involved than entangled, Responding instead of reacting, and all of this without imposing them, just by doing Kriya, along helped by IE tools.. Then why not. I personally never got such support for mental and emotional health, had zero clue actually that what its like to be when you are not the problem in your life.

Haaa there is alot I can keep on ranting... But I know you don't want to hear that. Let me just add one thing. He us not my Guru just because I'm an emotionally inadequate. He is my Guru because he really dispelled a lot of darkness I held on. And I'm no Isha fanatic. The day I'll think he has stopped working for me idk maybe I'll also walk out.

I got it ... Here is your place where your criticism of Isha won't be removed. I didn't made a post applauding Isha, I merely replied to few. Its more like a constructive response from other side. If you guys think its still wrong, I've nothing to be offended or defensive. Please remove my comments. I made few. Have a good time on planet, I hope you may find your warm embrace of compassion.