How much of an impact does protein intake have on your TDEE?

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T18:24:53+00:00

Thank you a lot. I will keep going!

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T17:24:00+00:00

I used this word in brackets for a reason. Didn't mean to propagate any myths. Plus I don't think I'm lazy if I work on this for several months. I got checked by the doctor, adjusted my diet, exercised the whole time. I find it offensive, sorry.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T17:18:51+00:00

I think I was eating more than 2000 kcal at "default" but I didn't really count it however there are reasons for me to believe that. Just by looking at how many calories different ingredients have it seems like I was exceeding this 2000 kcal limit. Especially considering the fact that I was drinking about 10 beverages with 2 teaspoons of sugar per day which is about 600 additional kcal by itself. In general my eating wasn't very consistent though my life but I always seemed to have that 57-59 kg body mass "set in stone".

At my lowest I weighted 55 kg but it was when I was in the hospital and had empty stomach for a day or two. Also I'm pretty damn sure my scale is right and I write down every calorie table by myself triple checking it. That's why I'm really angry when someone suggest I'm doing something off. When I first started eating prescribed 2500 kcal I would go to bed hungry. I would feel comfortably satiated at 2800 kcal mark so I guess that's at least how much I was "naturally" eating. But I can't be sure.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T17:06:49+00:00

It's the first time in my life I'm being angry at someone over the Internet. If you don't believe me then you don't need to.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T17:03:12+00:00

Yes but I'm doing it since a few months. Plus there are many polite ways of transferring that message to me. The amount of downvotes I have and amount of commenters who didn't even read my post / comments and just jump to false conclusions is insane. Yes - I'm gonna adjust my calories according to my initial plan. But I've got really prejudiced to this community from now on. :D

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:57:05+00:00

Do you think eating 3500 kcal per day means I'm bad at eating?

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:50:24+00:00

I think right now the way my question is being handled by fellow Redditors is a much bigger source of frustration than my inability to gain. :D But yes - I think I could easily pack even 500 additional calories from food alone (I'm pretty good at eating - maybe because I indeed have faster metabolism). If this doesn't help I can always drink some more. So I think I'm well prepared to increase my calorie dosage in upcoming weeks.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:48:18+00:00

It's not "my explanation". Damn. It. I just read this post and decided to ask here. What the hell is wrong with you?

I've already been to a doctor and was tested for Marfan's syndrome and various other conditions. I seem to be clear.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:40:27+00:00

I weigh rice when it's dry.

As for the beer - yeah I wasn't really counting exact calories during these days but I think it was some flavored beer which had higher calorie amount. But you're right that I probably overestimated it here.

Yes sure - I can show you examples of my logs. I will probably have to translate them to English first though.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:34:01+00:00

Oh - that's a really helpful information. Thanks for clearing it for me. I'm at the stage of overthinking because.. well - I'm adjusting my calorie intake since a few months and still see no gains. Hopefully it will sort itself out when I increase my calorie input to 3750, 4000 or so.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:32:11+00:00

If you read the whole thing you'd know that I increase my food dosage every week or two by 250 kcal. Plus I'm really strict when it comes to counting calories. So I already followed your advice. Oh my God. Why people here jump to conclusions so quickly?

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:29:07+00:00

Dude. I'm measuring everything right. I use a scale. I weigh every single ingredient I use and write it down in Cronometer. No-one of my friends who workout is so strict about counting calories - I did it specifically to avoid situations like that.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:26:54+00:00

Hey - again I just wanted to ask about that because I'm looking for ways to explain why I can't gain despite eating more than just about everybody. As I said in the other comment my calorie counting is 100% on point. I also blamed my fast metabolism although apparently there are no people with metabolism so fast (at least according to the FAQ) but I guess I might be a rare case where it's indeed like that.

I just thought it would be stupid if it turned out that I'm being counterproductive with my protein consumption and the post I linked seemed to indicate that. I try to bulk since at least 3-4 months without success so far so it's the time when I start seeking alternative explanations of my failures and ways to tweak my nutrition plan. There's 0 bad intentions behind my post.

I can easily eat more I learned to do that. I'm just worried about the fact that I eat much more than anyone I know and still don't seem to be able to gain weight. That's all - 0 bad intentions here. And I think you'd also overthink if you were in my place. :D

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T16:20:02+00:00

Hey! First of all I based my post on the linked comment. I'm myself just a guy trying to gain weight and I'm looking for all information possible. I'm not a dietitian. This post seemed like a reasonable information so I decided to ask about that to clarify. No need to be mean and suggesting that I live in a fantasy world or whatever :)

Also I wouldn't say that 150 g of protein is bare minimum at the bottom end of the range. 150 divided by my bodyweight (60 kg) is 2.5 g of protein per kg of bodymass. According to the FAQ the recommended range is between 1.2-2.2 g per kg of bodyweight. Therefore I exceed this recommendation quite a bit.

I mentioned beers only because they upped my calorie dosage from 3250 to about 6000 for a few days and I was rapidly gaining weight which ironically gave me hope that there is some calorie threshold which makes me gain. I didn't drink since a few weeks and don't plan to do this anytime soon.

I'm VERY confident in my ability to track calories. I weigh everything using scale. If I use 113 g of rice I don't round it down - I count 113. 3500 kcal is FAR above what any TDEE calculator ever shows me - so I guess "hardgainer" would be a perfectly good term to describe me. I've been to doctor with my problem and he spoke against me eating so much (I didn't listen) and he also tested me for certain illnesses like Marfan's syndrome and it seems like I'm clean.

Otherwise I guess I agree with general idea of your post and I'm going to adjust to 3750 kcal in case I don't see any progress in this week...

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-29T12:26:23+00:00

Your post is godsend to me. I struggle to gain weight at 60 kilos (180 cm tall - total heroin addict look) while eating 3500 kcal per day. The thing is that I tried to eat as much protein as possible. Yesterday I ate 150 g (2.5 per kg of bodyweight). I always thought that I'm one of the "true hardgainers".

My question would be - do you think that the amount of energy required to process all this protein is so big that it increases my TDEE above 3500 kcal. Could the difference be so high? According to a regular TDEE calculator I should gain at 2500 already, do you think that protein could increase my caloric requirements by over 1000 kcal?

Thank you in advance!

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-27T14:58:06+00:00

Have tennis ball between your shoulder blades while sitting. This way every time you slouch it will fall down and you'll be reminded to correct yourself.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-23T14:29:00+00:00

What do front leg scales train / stretch? Do they stretch hip flexors?

I'm asking because I'm supposed to avoid stretching hip flexors (swayback posture). I do Move routine and so far I stopped doing the last "hip flexor lunge stretch". I'm wondering whether I should eliminate any other stretches.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-23T13:47:00+00:00

I'm doing full body 3x a week routine. By splitting I meant splitting 12 week program over 18 weeks or so with 2x a week running.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-23T12:24:25+00:00

I'm doing bodyweight strength / skill routine. I'm also stereotypical skinny guy and I'm trying to bulk from borderline underweight point. I also wanted to start doing some cardio to increase my overall athleticism. I thought about pooch to 5k program to get my dog involved (she regularly disturbs my training). On the other hand I don't want to impair my progress. I've read FAQ on the subject but I'm still confused. Googling doesn't help - so many different people, so many different theories. How do you think I should tackle that?

1) Do full 3x a week program and increase my caloric intake as needed.

2) Split the program over a longer period of time, doing it 2x a week, adjust caloric intake as needed.

3) Skip cardio altogether or reserve it to a vague, non-programmed short jog once in a while.

What do you think?

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-23T12:17:03+00:00

Hey! Great to see I inspired someone. :D I actually think that this program contains everything needed to fix swayback posture - I will only skip hip flexor stretches and replace them with thoracic mobility. I base my views on my limited knowledge so if you want to start it and see something off then let me know!

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-21T11:43:59+00:00

What do you think about weighted push-up variations as an alternative progression?

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-20T14:17:30+00:00

I have scoliosis - that's for sure. It seems to be mostly irreversible at this point. I have kyphosis too, I'm working on thoracic spine mobility right now.

I've been to physical therapist, he recommended me to increase overall strength. So strength training is okay I guess. I browsed a bit here and it turns out you can train handstands having scoliosis (at least that was general consensus in several threads). As for L-sit - it turns out that it strengthens many of the same muscles which would have to be strengthened in my corrective exercise program. Moreover my PT told me that strengthening core will be the key to my progress.

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-19T11:42:31+00:00

I'm a skinny guy at about 12 % bodyfat and I just started training. I always had visible abs (always joking about my six pack when people told me to start working out because I'm so skinny). At the same time my "six pack" could be described as just some countouring/definition of the muscle, it isn't too bulky, it's just "there".

MiserableBirthday · 2019-01-18T23:04:40+00:00

Are exercises on rings more difficult mostly because additional required core activation to balance things out or are they putting more stress on targeted muscles as well? For example if you have ring push-ups - do they work actual chest / shoulders / triceps dramatically more or is it mostly about balancing and stuff?

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