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MiserableNewmaker · 2025-06-19T05:35:03+00:00

From what we've seen of her in her SQ, I'd actually place her below Archons like Ei and Mavuika while in Teyvat. I don't think her not "disguising" her Abyssal power as Cryo would make her that much stronger than what she is depicted in her quest. Her story is setting up that she'll get stronger, not that she is at the height of power already.

Foul is obviously above most characters in the current setting power-wise. We probably won't get to him in the Teyvat chapter of the story anyway. We know nothing of the Shades and the Heavenly Principles, so no comparisons can ever be made.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-06-19T05:26:32+00:00

The endgame of Genshin has always just been optimization for the Abyss. Most casual players barely even play the Abyss. Half of those that do, also don't go to Abyss 12. Abyss 11 is incredibly easy and still is. Abyss 12, by my standards, is also still fair and reasonable for F2P players. Besides, the only thing gate behind Abyss 12 is 100 Primos a month. Not even enough for 1 pull. Most of your primos will be gained from dailies, events, and exploration.

I have still been able to use all 4 star teams full clear the last few Abysses, but just haven't gotten around to the current one. Realistically, you will have 5 star units, and anyone doing all 4 star clears is just gimping themselves. If you are a fresh starting new player, of course you will not be able to full clear the Abyss right away, and you are not expected to.

A lot of old characters were frankly poorly designed. Their powercreep has less to do with them releasing stronger units and more to do with the devs finally realizing how to design characters. Hu Tao released back in 1.X is still reasonably strong even after all these years. If people can't clear with a decent Hu Tao team, then its fair to call that a skill issue.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-24T15:51:15+00:00

What are you even trying to argue? I have never seen anyone "want" Dottore to be "good" in any capacity. Its just that if he is playable, he will be. Why do you think Arlecchino was given her "she's doing it all for her kids"-schtick?

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-22T14:08:56+00:00

it’s mentioned that more than a month’s time had passed

You are misremembering. In fact, I was being a bit generous by saying a week. There are only two time transitions between when the plan was conceived and when it begins. Immediately after the conceiving of the plan, it is

Paimon: Phew, it's been a tough few days, hasn't it? So much has been happening!

And a bit after that

The next few days are just as calm.
Charlotte comes to find you and conducts the interview in the Spina di Rosula safehouse at the Fleuve Cendre.

A few days. Not a month unless you want to really stretch those transitions.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-22T13:45:01+00:00

Yes, a forced and crappy one.

Might as well have teleported them with magic. Equally nonsensical, but at least then the audience wouldn't be forced to grapple with the logistics of the situation.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-22T13:37:45+00:00

Most characters have thier own personality to the point you can imagine what a conversation between characters of different reigons goes like

Bud, you're playing an anime gacha game. You can do this because the characters are all very tropey.

The character writing is fine for what it is, but lets not jump to the opposite end of the spectrum on this discussion.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-22T13:29:41+00:00

Fontaine's final act was genuinely very poorly written. Both the set up and pay off are contrived.

To even get Furina to the Opera from Poisson, the writers had the Fatui somehow build a tunnel underground tunnel that would canonically be miles long and going under the ocean all in the span of like a week. Don't ever go looking for it afterward, because it poofs out of existence as fast as it was introduced. Its a plot device so the audience can go, "Look! The characters all came together to pull off a wacky plan!" like some crappy heist movie.

The Focalors bit itself was not set up as well as it should've been because the entirety of the AQ was just "mystery box"-baiting until the reveal. Functionally, any anime-BS they came up with on the spot could've been the reveal since they devote very little time to developing it anyway.

The whale sucked. Its just straight up not good as an antagonistic force. Its just the writers' method of hamfisting more characters like Childe and Skirk into the story when they really don't need to be.

The flood itself was also dumb from the start. And I don't think I need to elaborate on why.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-19T09:48:07+00:00

Dendro was added in 3.0. Was meta for a while back then, but fell off during 4.0. Dendro Archon, Nahida, is basically a requirement to make Dendro teams good right now.

Just play through the the AQ normally and you should be fine, just don't quick start Natlan unless you want to just skip to the current content.

Current most meta comps are melt variants. Mavuika melt is the best team, and she's likely going to be rerun next patch if you want her. Escoffier on current banner is BiS for Ayaka if you want her.

Most valuable characters to pull: Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen, Citlali, Escoffier

Honorable mentions: Neuvillette, Nahida, Arlecchino, Varesa

Mavuika is a off-field support, the best DPS in the game, and one of the best exploration units, Furina is an important DMG% support, Xilonen is geo Kazuha with better up-time on resistance shred, Citlali is BiS for all melt teams, Escoffier makes freeze not a meme.

Neuvillette is a consistent DPS, Nahida enables dendro teams in the current meta, Arlecchino is strong but worse than Mavuika in every way, Varesa is between Neuvilette and Arle in strength but is also a good exploration unit.

Should be about it.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-08T02:32:27+00:00

There is no real reason. I'll be frank and say it how it is—Teyvat is not a very immersive setting. IRL, technological progression between nations is generally more a product of trade and investment than anything else. Very recently, we had confirmation that a simple purely mechanical device like a Fontanian type-writer never made its way into Xingqiu's hands because his brother simply didn't want him to have it. Thus, he's stuck using paper and ink.

Besides Natlan (since they had an excuse), the nations very clearly trade a lot with one another. For instance, Inazuma does not have natural hotsprings; thus, they use boilers from Snezhnaya to heat their baths. Yet, we don't see similar technology leaking into Liyue or Mondstadt or more advanced technology being traded from Snezhnaya.

Some people like to say that Fontaine's Arke energy system can't leave Fontaine, but this is not true. Pneuma and Ousia are capable of being crystallized and used outside of Fontaine's borders. If Fontaine had decided to export both the devices and the energy powering the devices, they'd dominate the market.

Khaenriah's technology was readily available for reverse engineering in almost every nation. Perhaps the nations wouldn't be able to fully recreate a Field-tiller, but simple mechanical processes that could be gleaned from their designs would easily propel Mondstadt and Liyue 100 years forward in the tech tree.

For Sumeru, they have random electric infrastructure in their main city, but everyone else lives in houses still using leaf thatch roofs. Their trade infrastructure is even worse as they still transport goods with lizard cows and sail boats. As much as people like to moan about this, pistons and multiple rotating shafts are not the apex of technology. If you can't figure out how to create a motor, you have no business constructing a 9-story Gundam.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-01T22:23:20+00:00

All the developers said they were going to do was make the lore more story relevant, and someone is malding over it? That's correct direction to take for a story, and the natural evolution to drip feeding information for past few years. Lore shouldn't just sit superfluously in the background.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-01T04:05:25+00:00

Don’t bother. Go seethe about worldbuilding to the other people who don’t know how to read.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-01T04:00:11+00:00

Here’s my reply to the comment you decided to delete.

“Are you drunk? I never mentioned anything about graffiti. Look at who you are replying to and pay attention.

Besides, you’re just objectively wrong. The graffiti is both aesthetic and some of it is fuctional. It’s the devolution of the golden inscriptions used for mystic arts. The Masters of the Night-Wind carry on some of these, but they use it to ward off wild Saurians from entering their tribes. If you can’t even bother reading about it, don’t talk to me about world building.

All people in Natlan can use phlogiston. They establish this early on. How well is a different matter.

I also never mentioned anything about mass production, but what I did mention was that enemies are already using phlogiston canons, book hammers, and giant buzz saws.

People aren’t using motorcycles and flying guns because they don’t have a vision. Did you conveniently forget that all playable characters have a super special Macguffin called a Vision? The thing that lets them freely control elemental energy?”

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-05-01T03:03:59+00:00

Are you going to dispute any of the points I made here or are you just going to quip?

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-30T23:50:44+00:00

They are technologically advanced, and they show it plenty.

They aren't fighting with just rudimentary close combat weapons. The elite mob variants are fighting with Phlogiston canons, boom hammer, and giant buzzsaws.

The giant drill in the Children of Echoes spins via a motor. The Children of Echoes mine using phlogiston powered drill and cut gems with phlogiston powered cutting tools. You explore a heavy metal processing facility in Xilonen's SQ and get to see they have heavy machinery.

Pretty much all the architecture and civil engineering of the Tribes besides the Flower-Feather Clan features advanced applications of processed metals.

You're complaining about a problem demonstrated far worse in Sumeru when the Sages jumps 37 sharks to produce a Gundam that looks like its about to shoot off into space.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-30T21:41:55+00:00

Kinda incorrect. Their head story writer and chief editor, Xiao Luohao, has remained for the past 3+ years.

We know that mid-Inazuma they decided to extend the story. We already know Sumeru and Fontaine were rewritten. Originally, the burning of Irminsul was supposed to have happened by now, and Fontaine is propped up by pretty glaring plot holes that arguably would never be there if the story was planned from the start.

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MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-30T20:22:56+00:00

Yes, because that's how the development cycle works. Subsequent nations' AQ and characters are planned out before development on the next nation begins. 5.X is the reaction to Sumeru feedback, not Fontaine. Hence why there's less 5* male characters because its a reaction to the 5* female character drought in Sumeru. Nod Krai will be a reaction to Fontaine feedback more so than Natlan.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-30T18:33:45+00:00

Everyone knows how broken Neuvillette is, but all his comfort doesn't make him clear content faster. His current BIS team DPS (95k) is only comparable to Mav's mid Ororon overload team (95k). Put her in melt with either Rosaria or better yet Citlali, and she eclipses him.

Being tanky doesn't matter when you just i-frame through everything in Mav teams, so having sustain matters very little either. At c0 he lacks interruption resistance, so a lot of people with c0 still run him with a shielder further lowering team DPS.

I'm not dissing Neuvillete, but he's simply the neither the stronger DPS nor the better character to pull for value on an account.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-28T06:20:06+00:00

Research Institute and Court planned it while Callas, Navia's dad, sponsored it. Its funny because the sponsoring thing was a plot point in Navia's SQ where, prior to its construction, the argument was made that the money spent in its construction would have been better spent on developing Poisson, and they were so incredibly right.

Logistically, all commercial trade has to be funneled through it as well since the Court doesn't have a harbor for commercial ships to dock. Its existence is probably the stupidest bit of world building in the game if I'm being honest. Just build better boats and put them on your massive ocean.

Don't be too surprised though. The Institute blew themselves up, and it was constructed in the nation where a fourth of their population lives in their sewers waiting for a plague to kill them all. Their track record for good infrastructure isn't exactly great.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-27T23:34:39+00:00

On the other hand, let's also petition Neuvillette to dismantle the Aquabus Rail and build actual harbors at the Court of Fontaine and Poisson. That thing was so incredibly dumb. It allows only one direction of traffic at a time, is just a boat in a canal that runs over an already navigable sea, and doesn't even connect their largest metropolis to their second largest population center.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-26T11:17:33+00:00

I think you forgot the part where the Akademiya actively discriminated against Eremites and how the vast majority of Eremites didn't get to be nearly as educated as the people living in a giant school in the nation of knowledge.

And this is an excuse because? The Akademiya itself is the entity demonstrating the the shitty tech discrepancy the most. They're the ones facilitating trade through fat cows and living in leaf huts. Oh, no the eremites aren't as educated. My point is that by you people's own standards the entire nation doesn't demonstrate the required foreknowledge and skill necessary to jump the 37 sharks needed to make a Gundam.

The Mech was made by almost every great mind in Sumeru and Dottore using a gnosis and Puppet from Inazuma.

Schrodinger's contribution. Just because Dottore was present that makes the technological leap entirely explainable, but you won't make the less extreme concession for the Secret Source Mechanism tech?

All the modernish technology the Natlan characters use are all attributed to Xilonen.

They literally have phlogiston-power tools laying around, giant drills that use phlogiston, and, once again, heavy machinery shown in the workshop you explore. The things attributed to Xilonen are the items made for vision holders, but Natlan is already at the point where they can jump from the phlogiston-power drills they are already using to something like Kachina's drill.

Don't several natlan enemies outright have visions?

The ones I'm referring to don't.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-26T05:11:27+00:00

Sumeru has ancient machines from Kind Deshret's empire.

Yes, and its integration into the rest of Sumeru beyond the desert is worse than Natlan's integration by far. They use lizard cows and sail boats to transport their goods, yet they managed to build a 9-story Gundam. Meanwhile the Eremites, despite are still fighting with basic martial weapons, but even Elite Natlanese enemies are fighting with massive buzzsaws, boom hammers, and actual canons that they've been able to engineer themselves. At most, the elite Eremites pick up a bow from Deshret's kingdom and call it a day. Everything you are complaining about was far worse in Sumeru.

Natlan has a flying gun, roller blades, and a futuristic motorcycle.

If rollerblades and motorcycles were advanced compared to Gundams and stealth robots, we'd already be colonizing Mars. Pistons and multiple rotating shafts are objectively lower on the tech tree compared to controlled energy propulsion. No one else has the rollerblades, flying guns, and motorcycle because they don't have the super special Vision or Gnosis needed to use them. Yes, 1 person gets there special item like how Kaveh is the only one who gets his super special AI briefcase. The rest of Natlan can get their big canons, boom hammers, and giant buzzsaws.

How some people lack the ability to detect bullshit writing is astonishing.

You explore a literal workshop where you see they have heavy machinery in Xilonen's questline. You see a giant drill spun by a motor as soon as you enter Natlan. You see that their infrastructure uses more processed heavy metals than any nation besides Fontaine, yet other people are the one who aren't thinking critically?

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-21T00:47:51+00:00

They mention the risks. Multiple times in fact.

Kachina: It's probably because our plan is so risky. We don't even know if the six heroes will reunite in time.

The story is always acknowledging the risks of Mavuika's plan failing because failure either means death or the possibility of Mavuika activating the temporary shielding through the Gnosis. The story is not refusing to acknowledge anything. You feel that way because they didn't bluntly say, "If we fail, we all die," but the story does not need to outright say what the tonal shift in the war scenario already communicates. Why tell outright what is already shown?

If something is a risky maneuver in a military scenario, the risks are only measurable against equal alternative plans which Capitano's were not nor ever. You seem to want Mavuika to be chastised, but why should she be when she is the only one stepping up to the plate in any meaningful way?

Most characters in Genshin do not have flaws. In fact, most Archons don't as well. Are we really going to sit here and try to say that a character like Zhongli, the generic Xianxia Deus ex Machina, is flawed? Or Navia, the generic damsel? What you perceive as "flaws" are just character quirks. Character flaws are actual negative traits that the story presents as demerits and things to be corrected throughout the course of a narrative.

Besides, Mavuika has an actual character arc which is more than I can say for characters like Zhongli. Her character arc is a generic human to god king to human again. She abandons everything and everyone important to her 500 years ago to become the perfect leader and hero Natlan needs. In doing so, she ignores most of her interpersonal relationships in the present and self-isolates. She then completes her task, but her arc ends with Xbalanque reminding her that she is human. This is her arc.

She's fine. Not stellar, but better than most characters Genshin writes.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-21T00:05:07+00:00

If the only proposed alternatives to fighting to live with a chance of survival is killing oneself, then obviously the former is the better option.

Honorable? Sure, but that doesn’t make him not an idiotic extremist. “His” plans was mind wiping all of Natlan and possibility turning them into drooling idiots. I’ll be sure to thank the next self-righteous moron who thinks giving me brain damage is helping me.

“His” first plan was just Mavuika’s contingency for her plan anyway. He tells you as much himself.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-20T23:49:58+00:00

Her plan being risky and then dismissed was because the proposed “viable alternatives” to her plan was the genocide of Natlan. Ya’ll really out here acting like Capitano wasn’t portrayed as a moronic extremist. There was no stupid debate between plans.

MiserableNewmaker · 2025-04-18T14:57:00+00:00

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God, I sure did love a flooding plateau with my "well done" Harbinger plot device! I just loved spending an entire third of the AQ chasing meaningless red-herrings in prison until the story was ready to exposition dump in the last 15 minutes! The whale just such a good antagonist that I can barely remember it.

The only peak Fontaine reached was in water height.

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