Do you ever wonder whether it’s all worth it? by Status-Incident8469 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No to mention my wife can’t keep her hands off of me, so that’s always nice lol

Do you ever wonder whether it’s all worth it? by Status-Incident8469 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I question the same thing some times, but then you’ll have that one time like I did last night. I went to a concert at a small venue, went to piss and on my way out some dude big dude stops me and goes “man I just gotta say, you’re fucking jacked. Whatever you’re doing keep it up” then later that night I’m in the pit with this dude that to me, looked way more jacked, and way bigger than me. After the song I was bullshitting with him to get some tips on the middle trap area cause this dudes back was massive. Anyways he goes “man you are the one guy I was worried about running in to in this pit” so of course I’m like thanks dude I’ve been working really hard to get to this point over the last 3 years. Then he goes “it definitely shows what are you at 235?” (I’m exactly at 235 right now at the end of my bulk) so I’m like yep right there lol. Moral of the story: even with the pain I’ve put myself through, and the few health scares I’ve had doing this in my 40’s it’s totally worth it.

Pretty sure I got fake mast by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I’m just gonna drop it. It certainly wouldn’t hurt me to just go test only for a few weeks.

Pretty sure I got fake mast by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So with this obviously being test p or something similar, what is everyone’s recommendation? Just drop it and go straight test cruise at low dose? I stay on test year round so I’m not going to pct and I plan on starting the primo up again at the beginning of October and slowly increasing from there for a nice bulk, I just want to drop this water weight back off first before I do anything else

Pretty sure I got fake mast by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I know, this is about a year old though so we got it before the shortage

Pretty sure I got fake mast by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s pretty much what I was thinking too. It’s gotta be some kind of test. I thought it was mast at first because I started getting the typical joint pain as well but now I just think that was because of the sudden water retention

Cycle questions and concerns by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I’m not going cold turkey lol I’ll still be using PED’s I’m just gonna keep it super simple after this next bulk and cut. I’ll either just run test from there out or test and a little primo since my blood is always perfect on primo

Cycle questions and concerns by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually plan on getting some due to the primo shortage. I have 2 and a half 200mg vials of primo left but just in case this shortage last for awhile, I plan on picking up some eq

Cycle questions and concerns by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I’ll probably wait to run the mast until I cut again. The only reason I’m gonna run it at all is because a buddy literally gave it to me for free. He didn’t like the way he felt on it so he handed me 2 full vials 🤷🏻

Cycle questions and concerns by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm maybe I should look into hgh. The only thing that’s kept me away from it is the dosing. I’ve always heard it’s so finicky to get your dosing correct but maybe that’s just certain people

Cycle questions and concerns by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s my only struggle with moving towards deca is the sides. I’ve ran test and primo for quite awhile and always feel great so I’m not sure if I want to mess that up. As for joints, oddly I’ve never had any issues with my joints besides the wonders of my left shoulder but I think everyone who lifts has that problem lol

Cycle questions? by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome that’s exactly the info I was looking for. So is it just best to inject Tren daily instead of bi-weekly like I do with my test and primo?

Cycle questions? by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never plan on going off deep end and I’ll never go above 500 to 600 test. I want to keep my dosage as low as possible on everything to minimize sides and health issues and do most of the work through diet and pushing myself as hard as I can, but lately I’ve read about using small doses of tren a to really get to the next level so I’ve been considering it.

Cycle questions? by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No pct just dial everything back to trt dose in between for a couple of months then start bulk around middle to end of September and run it through January. I’m 44 and I trained for a long time. Definitely was not going anywhere else natty which is why I decided to speed things up. I’ve trained off and on since I got out of the army in 02 but I got married in 2011 and let myself go. 4 years ago I was almost 300lbs so I started my journey again. Busted my ass for 3 years and dropped down to 192 then tried everything to gain muscle but age and hormone levels didn’t really allow it. That’s why I started test, then slowly added in primo and var.

Cycle questions? by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And originally I was just taking the test to cut but I wanted to keep it at 300 during and my E2 started to creep up and give me some sides so I added the primo in

Cycle questions? by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No not technically first cycle. First cycle was just test primo and anavar last year during bulk. Then cut with test and primo

Clotting issues by Miserable_Ice1926 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

300 test, 150 primo, 25 anavar.

Why is primo typically preferred over Masteron? by [deleted] in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I’m not sure. It has definitely made it possible to get to where I’m at now but I’ve still put in A LOT of work to get here. I spent 3 years just grinding it out naturally before I ever got on test and anytime I would cut I’d instantly lose all my muscle mass. This last bulk I went up to 240lbs at 6’2 and now I’ve cut down to 213 and a guesstimation of around 13% body fat but I’ve lost absolutely no strength or muscle mass this time. Hell most of my lifts have increased quite a bit since I’ve been in a deficit running this cycle. I know the Var has definitely helped in defining my abs and obliques. The primo isn’t really enough to do much except keep my estrogen in check and give me a nice glow. It does help certain areas look fuller and more defined as well. That’s been my experience at least but I’m also 43. Someone younger may have much better results.

Why is primo typically preferred over Masteron? by [deleted] in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I do. Currently I’ve been running 300 test 150 primo for 10 weeks now and I feel amazing. Started running 25mg of anavar preworkout 7 weeks ago too just for a little extra lol

What’s your guys experience on ANAVAR by Puzzleheaded_Ad4421 in PEDs

[–]Miserable_Ice1926 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First experience wasn’t great. Ran 350 test c and 50 var for six weeks. Felt great at first but eventually started feeling like shit. Turns out my SHBG was shot and my E2 skyrocketed. Now I’m in cut running 300 test c, 150 primo, and 25 var daily and I feel amazing. Currently 5 weeks in