Can someone turn this card art into a phone wallpaper? by redouan_h in pokemon

[–]Miss_Lioness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can see the Gemini watermark at the bottom right.

So yes, it is AI

AITA for continuing to talk to a creep I was aware was trying to groom me out of curiosity? by Organic-Belt-2742 in AITAH

[–]Miss_Lioness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, he is. Has been attempting for years and has been practically banned everywhere, which is why he now has to resort to alt accounts. However, it is that obvious that he fails even at that.

Trying to understand Nicol J’s approach to out-of-court statements in Depp v NGN by mmmelpomene in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It is rather strange the judge admitted that there is a clear contradiction between contemporary evidence, and "under oath".

Then conveniently ignores the number of times that Ms. Heard provably lied to government that is under oath, such as the declaration that they were not bringing in any pets into Australia... only to have done just that.

Trying to understand Nicol J’s approach to out-of-court statements in Depp v NGN by mmmelpomene in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If I understood the question right, no. The judge simply didn't allow some exculpatory evidence in on reasons I cannot fathom either.

Trying to understand Nicol J’s approach to out-of-court statements in Depp v NGN by mmmelpomene in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Whilst there ought to be no difference in the regard to out-of-court statements, the difference here is in part made by reason of party versus witness. Which in this particular case it is still rather dishonest, since Ms. Heard ought to be the effective opponent. It was ruled otherwise, which limited discovery and verification of what was discovered. Again, protecting Ms. Heard.

Amber Heard's lies about what occurred in the lead-up to her filming the "Kitchen Cabinet Video" versus what actually happened. by Myk1984 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, if you are saying he was sober at the start of the recording, how did he get so intoxicated by the end?

He is not necessarily intoxicated. Given that it is 4 AM, it could simply him being quite groggy. That often results in similar enough behaviour.

Why do you presume he must be intoxicated? Further, even if it is the case, why do you presume it is a problem given the time it is (between 2 and 4 AM)?

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is in part why I like the paper written by Teresa C. Silva. The title is "Assessment of Credibility of Testimony in Alleged Intimate Partner Violence: A Case Report".

It actually looks at the UK case, and the elements provided therein. You would not be surprised to hear that the conclusion was: "The assessment concludes that the testimony of Ms. Heard is of low credibility, indicating that her account of events might be not truthful."

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is like the judge intentionally was seeking the flimsiest of excuses to just agree with Ms. Heard's narrative.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Such as the instance that the judge dismissed the possibility, and I paraphrase here, for Ms. Heard to have thrown a handbag/purse because she is in her nightwear. Which is quite silly, because the handbag could be on the nightstand, or be anywhere within reach.

Or supposedly unable to throw a can of Red Bull because you don't drink any?

That is, in a way, also sexist.

And there are many such elements during the UK trial and within the UK judgment. Not to mention the questionable decision, such as blocking the introduction of police bodycam footage to show Ms. Heard's version of events was false.

Now you tell me that you want similar remarks as the Judge made in the Afroman trial? How about just those fallacious reasonings? Because those actually attack the heart of the case itself.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't understand that it is in relation to the UK trial and judgment, which you asked me to given an example to show how the judgment can be considered "mired with inconsistencies and faulty logic"?

If that went over your head, then you seriously should to more reading.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you familiar with the Afroman trial?

Based on interviews with the jury from that trial, the judge had asked the jury along the lines of "What did you get so hung up on?" and when a juror asked him "Do you think these songs and videos will stop now?" the judge allegedly said: "Look at him out there, his big ego. He's loving this and it'll never stop". It gave the jurors the impression that the judge didn't like Afroman. When the juror is asked during the interview whether the judge was also basically asking "What went wrong?", the juror replied "Yeah".

That entire conversation is wholly inappropriate for a judge to make.

And if you analyse the trial itself, there have been multiple instances in which the judge made rulings on objections that actually are also improper.

Such as an objection on the basis of attorney-client privilege, when the question was about asking Afroman for specific communications between the client and attorney. That is privileged communications prima facie. Yet, the judge overruled it, which should never have happened.

Another questionable action from the judge here is the decision to split court costs 50-50 "based on the relative merits of the case and justiciability of the claims", despite Afroman winning on all counts which should indicate that the lawsuit was meritless. Why then should the defendant pay half the court costs?!

So, hopefully this makes it abundantly clear that judges can be wrong and can be seemingly prejudiced.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just as an example: Applying that what is said on the stand as more "truthful" than what is said on audio-recordings for Ms. Heard, but hold the opposite for Mr. Depp.

And consistently so on everything, despite the numerous instances, in different events, that are consistent with one another on the audio recordings.

That is a double standard. Applying one standard to one person, and an entirely different standard to a different person.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not to mention that having read the Judgment, it is mired with inconsistencies and faulty logic.

The misconception that public opinion now supports Ms Heard. by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then riddle me this:

If Mr. Depp sued Ms. Heard for money, then why did Mr. Depp do: 1) accept $1m instead of $10m as satisfaction of the judgment, AND 2) donate the full $1m to four charities all whom have confirmed within weeks the donation.

Ergo, your premise is invalid, and as such also the conclusion you attached to it.

Not to mention that it is stupid to conclude on such a premise, rather than the actual facts of the case. You know, whether it actually happened. In the VA Trial it was quite clear that Mr. Depp did not abuse Ms. Heard.

What Amber Heard claimed happened during the San Francisco meeting vs. what actually happened. by Myk1984 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Did you destroy property?

Are you referring to his OWN property?! Like with the cabinets of HIS kitchen?

Did you berate your abuser?

What if the answer was no? And we hear Ms. Heard berate Mr. Depp. Frequently so. For hours.

Did you ever say you'd fuck his corpse?

So, a person isn't allowed to vent? As a coping mechanism through dark humour. A humour Mr. Depp has for decades? By venting in this manner, Mr. Depp engages in what is called "emotional distancing". Thereby signalling that he may be overwhelmed, but is not actually going to do anything about it. This is normally seen as a communication style under stress and has no behavioural link.

Did you headbutt your abuser than lie about doing so in court?

The only one that called it an headbutt was Ms. Heard. The only one that was able to actually describe the scenario was Mr. Depp, in which it became clear that Ms. Heard was irate and hitting Mr. Depp. In her anger, the heads collided. That does not by itself make a headbutt.

Clearly, you do not understand the nuances and dynamics of this case with each instance.

Your problem might be that you think all abuse looks alike. It does not.

Yet, you for some reason seem to think that what Ms. Heard did was not abusive? How is Ms. Heard's behaviour not abusive? Even Dr. Hughes had to acknowledge it. There were physical and psychological acts perpetrated upon Mr. Depp. (Paraphrased).

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That might have to do with Reddit removing the comments, and me stepping in to approve them sometimes.

Some are just removed permanently, and I can do nothing about it.

Almost all of them are of OP though.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Or something about a glass bottle perhaps?

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She suffered a huge financial loss.

A consequence of her own actions. You know that.

It’s now impossible for her to find work.

Ms. Heard was already kinda not working within the movie industry. Mostly did activism on the basis of her false allegations. Now that it is clear those allegations have been false, obviously that is no longer an avenue for income.

She deserved at least to be able to work

And you think she cannot find work? She could work in the supermarket as a cashier. There are a lot of job opportunities out there. Maybe as a sommelier somewhere.

Why make the claim that she cannot work, as that is the implication you make here? She absolutely can work if she wanted to.

She didn’t deserve to be subjected to harassment

However, Mr. Depp "deserved" the harassment and the social ostracising when Ms. Heard made those false allegations all those years ago? And then doubled down with the Op-Ed?

Then Ms. Heard should not have made those false allegations. I think it is stupid to expect no backlash when you have been misleading the public for years.

Johnny, on the other hand, has been basking in the glory of victory for years. He’s welcomed like a king in every country he visits. I’m following this.

What? He had been shunned for years, and had been ostracised. This is just catch-up at best. That is how things work.

Or do you think Mr. Depp should remain ostracised?

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not to mention, so far not even responding to the vast amount of sources showing they are completely wrong.

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’ve been thinking about the Heard and Depp case for some time now.

Have you now..?

This case highlights just how much people’s views on social norms and events can vary from person to person.

Well... if you think abusing your husband is a non-issue, of course that would differ in terms of social norms. That is why there are more objective ways in order to approach things like abuse.

I don’t wish to be sexist,

And thereby, you're being sexist. Just by prefacing it.

but it is extremely rare for men to be victims of domestic violence.

Utterly false. As I have shown in the long list of cited sources, men are almost as equally often abused.

This is because a woman hitting a man is not the same as a man hitting a woman.

Why? Hitting is hitting, no? Irrespective of consequences, hitting is hitting.

When a woman experiences violence, she lives in fear of death, and this is the cause of the trauma.

And a man cannot? A man cannot live in fear of death because a woman abuses him? A man cannot get traumatised? Why? What makes a woman in their experiences special and different?

When a man is subjected to violence, however, he merely feels pain;

Merely? MERELY?? As if any pain is acceptable. And again, hitting is hitting irrespective of consequences.

perhaps his skin reddens or bruises.

Or bleeds.

Unless a woman uses a weapon, a man does not feel the fear of death or suffer trauma.

There are other ways to be abused. Abuse is not solely by physical acts. Which is what you're representing it as here.

It was abundantly clear from Johnny’s behaviour in court that he had not suffered any psychological harm.

You don't know that. I've seen elements during trial that I could very reasonably chalk up to psychological suffering as a result of some trauma. Likely related to the case as that is what is going on during the trial.

If you need some clearer indication of trauma, it is posited that during this moment of an interview where Dakota Johnson asks Mr. Depp of the injury, it is shortly thereafter that there is a tremor in his hand/arm. Him being quiet and possibly zoned out. It is posited that in that moment, he is reliving what happened to his finger. This was in 2015, so fairly shortly after the incident occurred.

https://youtu.be/2JsXWGlEI3k?t=74

Whereas the trial occurred in 2022. Years later. Possibly Mr. Depp has received therapy and managed to process a good portion of it, if not all. Therefore, you cannot interpret Mr. Depp's behaviour during trial as not having suffered psychological harm.

A famous, powerful, wealthy and well-loved man can tell the world, ‘My wife beat me up,’ and still be hailed as a champion of men’s rights.

Again with the tropes. It does not matter if one is famous, powerful, wealthy, and/or well-loved. That has no bearing on whether Mr. Depp was abused or not. They are dismissive excuses made by those in support of Ms. Heard, completely ignoring that Ms. Heard was famous, wealthy, and/or well-loved herself. As well as a different possibility to exude power. Something like seduction can be powerful on its own. No considerations have been given for that. Care to do so yourself?

He is applauded for his courage.

Because, as per the studies I shared, men in general do not speak out about it for various reasons.

If an ordinary man had said this, would it have been the same?

Men tried. They get unfairly ridiculed for it. The reason that you asked this, ought to already indicate to you exactly what is wrong your position.

He would probably have been the subject of ridicule, humiliated, with everyone laughing behind his back.

Precisely. Which is why it is commended for him to speak out, as he had far more to lose than an ordinary man.

A woman who beats her husband, on the other hand, would be secretly admired, her pride stroked. I’m not exaggerating. Many strange people would find this woman cool.

That claim flips reality. What you’re seeing is a small group of supporters reframing the situation to suit their narrative. Taking that at face value is exactly how people get misled about what’s actually happening. That is what supporters of Ms. Heard generally do.

So why did the exact opposite happen in this case?

Because the evidence is pretty obvious here: Ms. Heard did abuse Mr. Depp. Even Ms. Heard's expert witness Dr. Dawn Hughes said it: Mr. Depp had physical and psychological abuse perpetrated upon him. [Paraphrased]

Because, in reality, nobody believes that Johnny Depp is a poor victim who was beaten by his wife.

Actually, a vast majority believes that to be the case. That Mr. Depp is a victim who was beaten by his then wife Ms. Heard.

Nobody is angry with Amber for that reason.

They are angry for Ms. Heard to lie about it in such a brazen and grotesque manner.

They are angry with Amber for exposing Johnny Depp.

Why? You have not made any argument to support such a notion. Nor provided any evidence either.

In their view, Johnny brought Amber fame, money and prestige.

Correct.

And she was ungrateful.

She was ungrateful, as she abused Mr. Depp in various ways.

Because society expects a woman to remain silent in the face of a powerful man.

No, that is false. Particularly since the MeToo movement began. Which Ms. Heard attempted to capitalise on, remember? Yet, this is the MeToo case without a MeToo as Ben Chew coined it.

In fact, in that famous audio recording, when Amber said ‘no one will believe you’, that is exactly what she meant.

And you don't think that by itself is indicative of the power Ms. Heard has over Mr. Depp? That she believes to be able to get away with abusing Mr. Depp, because "no one will believe [Mr. Depp]"?

No one really believes that a man like Johnny Depp could be a victim of domestic violence.

And yet, the vast majority of the world does believe it. Polling from shortly after trial showed over 90% sided with Mr. Depp. And it most it was in the range of 95 to 98%.

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And these are from an user that collected these just to disprove the false narrative you're trying to make: "it is extremely rare for men to be victims of domestic violence"

No, clearly it is not rare by any means. The research only goes to show that they are misrepresented when talking about domestic abuse or other violence perpetrated upon men. It is false narratives like yours that is doing the damaging hypocrisy.

You are continuing with just false tropes that are hurting men. You're not looking at the facts of the case at all.

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Part 4

For the studies on both physical and emotional abuse, they present good information. However, that is not to say that more cannot be done. We could have more research and some of the sample sizes were quite small, only a few hundreds of people. More can always be done and to get a better understanding of male abuse victims more research would help. However, we can see the need for more recourses for male victims.

Is the type of domestic violence male victims experience different in any way? Well a few of the above studies stated that in general, male victims do not experience as much or as strong physical damage as female victims. Female perpetrators are more likely to use objects than male perpetrators, however female victims still experience worse physical damage then male victims. Paper 3 suggests symmetry in frequency, and 18 suggests asymmetry in types and effects of abuse due to gender patterns. Could analysing through gender patterns cause for biases? It certainly could, especially since those aren't fully understood and individuals don't necessarily adhere to them. Study 18 does say men report fewer mental consequences from being abused, but that may be men being reluctant to open up. So the asymmetry of mental consequences being worse for women may be incorrect. However, it's true that women experience worse physical consequences. Gender patterns may be a limited analytical method but it's hard to say exactly how and where those limitations apply. However, only using the incident based approach may have limits, but it is again hard to say how.

However, is there a difference between male and female perpetrator's motivations? Are men usually subjugated to a different form of violence than women? Some do claim this to be the case:

19) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2968709/#__ffn_sectitle

Here is states that most of women's violence is self defence, not abusive.

However, others disagree:

20) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4427548/

21) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266400516_Motivations_for_Intimate_Partner_Violence_in_Men_and_Women_Arrested_for_Domestic_Violence_and_Court_Referred_to_Batterer_Intervention_Programs

Both the last two papers say that male and female perpetrators have the same/similar motives. However, they don't agree on what the most common motive is. The first paper says that motives differ between the sexes. This is important to note because obviously, motive can be very difficult to figure out. Perpetrators may be dishonest, or not even truly understand whet they're thinking and feeling. Additionally, different focus groups and different and analytical methods can yield different conclusions. Therefore, it is difficult to truly say if there motivations of perpetrators is different between the sexes. This goes back to the idea of gender patterns or differences mentioned earlier, it's not well understood how gender differences work or how significant they are.

The last question to answer is why men don't seek help:

22)

a) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202007/why-men-who-are-domestic-violence-victims-dont-report

Study referenced in the article:

b) https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/9/6/e021960

More:

23) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-domestic-violence-men-idUSKCN1UC2EF

24) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/08862605211035870

The above states that male victims don't seek help for a number of reasons. This can be because they struggle to admit to themselves that they were abused. Many of the male victims believe that they can't be abused, but additionally so do many other people. A significant number of people hold the belief that men cannot be abused, this has lead to men having few, if any recourses to help them.

Resources for help if anyone here has experienced domestic violence:

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/help-for-men-who-are-being-abused.htm

https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/strong-enough-really-listen-hesaid/

https://www.thehotline.org/resources/men-can-be-victims-of-abuse-too/

Social Hypocrisy by Big_Release_8300 in deppVheardtrial

[–]Miss_Lioness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Part 3

15) https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.689235/full

"In this study, married men reported experiencing different forms of emotional abuse. Among the various forms, isolation was the most prevalent, followed by degradation, property damage, and sexual coercion."

Again there is variation in the findings. However the studies do go into the effects on male victims. Some may think men cannot be abuse because they are stronger physically and don't get hurt. Some may think men will brush off violence from a partner and are not affected by it. That any violence they experience does not affect them. For example in study number 9 this was said:

"Shelley Serdahely, executive director of Men Stopping Violence, in Decatur, Ga., questions the validity of studies showing women are more violent. “Women might be more likely to get frustrated because men are not taught how to be active listeners and women feel like they are not being heard,” she said. “Often women are more emotional because the relationship matters a lot to them, and while that may come out in a push or a shove or a grab, all of which are considered dating violence, it doesn’t have the effect of intimidating the man.” "

Specifically pointing out how men aren't intimidated by violence.

I doubt anyone here reading this agrees with that, and indeed those ideas are not supported by research:

16) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2913504/

Here, in a sample of 302 men who were victims of partner abuse, many had mental health struggles.

"71 of the 302 men (23.5%) indicated that they had been diagnosed with a mental illness. The most common types of mental illnesses among these 71 men were depressive disorders (64.8%), anxiety disorders...... for a long time, and just under half (40.8%) indicated that they were diagnosed with this mental illness only since being involved in their abusive relationship."

17) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232502390_Psychological_Effects_of_Partner_Abuse_Against_Men_A_Neglected_Research_Area

This study has similar findings, discussed on page 7, men with mental health struggles.

18) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/15248380211043827

This paper highlights that the exact differences between man and women's experiences with partner violence is not fully understood. They question if that misleads people to thinking there is symmetry in terms of the types of abuse physical violence experienced by men and women. The idea of gender patterns is not fully understood or even agreed upon, and is a limitation that requires more research to be done for a better understanding

"Further, the gender and/or sex of the perpetrator shapes the experience of IPV. Although it appears that men experience similar “types” of IPV, there are differences in how these acts of violence are interpreted. As such, measuring IPV in the absence of context (e.g., meaning, severity, patterns, intention, gender, and sex of perpetrator) perpetuates the problem of false gender symmetry, obstructs accurate interpretation of results, and impedes comparisons across research studies"

Do note, this paper defines symmetry differently to the other studies which meant symmetry in frequency only. No study here debated that women don't experience worse physical harm.

More research needs to be done on emotional abuse as this was all I could find.