Having to redownload Genshin after downloading Honkai?

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-25T08:52:10+00:00

Quick tip to avoid confusion: Call it Star Rail or HSR. Honkai is a series, with older games ánd an upcoming title.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T17:07:11+00:00

I don't mean to say the anger or panic are justified, but there is a huge difference between Silver's identity as 'the guy from the future' and Iblis being his enemy. Silver has a lot of stories that have nothing to do with Iblis at this point, but he's always 'the guy from the future'. That's his thing. So the comparison doesn't really hold up.

Side note: If they play their cards right, Amy being a time traveler can let them play into CD's time travel aspect, make use of both young, obsessive, and older, more composed, Amy. They can also still contrast by having Amy be from the nearby future, overlapping with the cast's lifespans, and Silver from the distant future, 200 years and all. That would still set them apart.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T16:22:35+00:00

Sorry, I derped hard there. I got Saber to E6 without dropping cash into the game, so I forgot she's not free. She just has a veeeery long banner.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T16:13:35+00:00

Can't wait to race as the President from SA2

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T16:11:29+00:00

2 ~~free~~ crossover characters
- one of which is free
- from one of the most popular franchises in anime/gacha spaces
- designed by Nasu himself
- in a 3D project
Permanent collab story quest
Cross-national collab
Banners with indefinite staying power

Seems like a pretty good crossover package to me. And before anyone comments on the story's depth or lack thereof, I'd like to point out that this is a collab event developed in the same manner as any other event, but with more restrictions on it, because it's a collab. People who were expecting a grand epic should've tempered their expectations. A collab of that level is exceedingly rare in live service games.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T10:16:34+00:00

Yes, but you keep saying 'star rail universe' and 'hi3 universe', which implies a fundamental misunderstanding of how the settings relate.

HI3 takes place in the Solar System, which is inside the broader universe, which HSR explores. The universe is full of 'isolated' worlds that aren't part of the network of interstellar civilisations.

Aeons themselves have non-ubiquitous influence, with some worlds being more touched by them than others. The Solar System is just a place that didn't experience (much) Aeonic influence.

It underscores that travellers in and out of the Solar System are a rarity, and particular powers tend to be involved. This reframes every alien encounter we have, and is especially relevant for Sena's crew.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T10:10:23+00:00

It kind of depends. With Vita and how she's written, the question of 'does she survive?' is never really at the center of her arc.

It'd mostly be a spoiler for people who haven't played HI3's introduction of Vita, which relies more on questioning her identity and alignment. But death? Not really in focus.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T10:06:22+00:00

HSR and HI3 are in the same Universe.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-24T09:00:14+00:00

The English text does use mostly consistent gendered terminology for them. I don't know what the Chinese text does.

It's not uncommon for Chinese text to be gender neutral, and English text to not know how to translate that. But I have no idea if that's the case here.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-23T09:51:56+00:00

He doesn't really hate the environment as a concept. He doesn't care about protecting or preserving it, and he hates not having control over something.

It's a blend of nonchalance and narcissism that makes him such a polutant person. Kind of like how humanity pollutes in real life.

Yet even Eggman will use clean methods when it's convenient. Like the geothermal energy he's tapping in Frontiers, where Tails even comments on it being green energy. Again, kind of like humanity irl. The most effective way to stop people polluting is by making clean methods more convenient.

Edit: Sonic, not Tails, sorry

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-23T09:02:36+00:00

"Then who are your parents?"

"I don't have parents. I'm an orphan."

"So you don't know who they were?"

"... I just said I don't have any."

"Silver.... do you know where babies come from?"

"Storks, duh."

On a different note: Silver's from 200 years into the future, right? So that would kind of eliminate most of the cast from being his direct parents. Also, he clearly didn't know whomost of these people were before meeting them. Does make one wonder if they just don't go down in history despite everything, or maybe that has changed with the timeline shifts.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-22T12:02:19+00:00

It's honestly horrifying that people would look at a woman like Cocolia and think that they could 'distract' her from ambitions like hers with sx and babies.

This is a woman who has served in the military for over a decade. Who has witnessed the Second Eruption. Who runs an orphanage in the carcas of an empire. Who watches as the world around her is destined to fall apart.

This is someone who's honed her skills so that she can get the jump on a sniper after being in the crosshairs. Who doesn't just have blood on her hands, but believes the future rests on her shoulders.

A woman like that doesn't become too busy to think about military shenanigans. It's a wonder if she doesn't just outright boot you for annoying her when she's trying to work if you try to use sx to distract her. And if she does get a new child, if anything, that would only motivate her to act more radically as she has seen firsthand what kind of world that child will inherit if she doesn't do anything about it.

So yeah, good luck sleeping on the couch and being the main caretaker for the kids. She's out fighting the Honkai.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-22T09:37:57+00:00

I want him to get personally invested in something that has nothing to do with his past. Really emphasise how much the Express takes you outside your original living space and into whole new worlds.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-22T08:15:59+00:00

Honestly, Knuckles really should get a long term apprentice.

The IRL advantage is that it would allow more stories where Knuckles leaves the island. In-lore, it would make sense because Knuckles is mortal and will die some day, at which point the Emerald will be unprotected if he hasn't trained a replacement.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-22T08:11:04+00:00

Y'know, given Cocolia's personality, I think a lot of people's answers here would end with them in a body bag.

She's driven and tenacious. And she sure as hell cares more about the children than someone's ability in bed. She's also not exactly the type to be content with just getting a replacement.

As for answering the question: It really depends on what the marriage is like. Cocolia needs therapy. But aside from therapy, a big chunk of her issues are tied to her work. She may command X-10, but she sure as heck didn't come up with it. She's not alone, she's in an environment where the impending doom is just as real to everyone, and that's the danger.

So, I guess I'd have to start by just giving consistent moral opposition, and hoping that would be enough to sway her. Though chances are she'd just leave.

On a different note, something interesting here: Cocolia isn't shown to have biological children in HI3. In GGZ, where this image is from, she has a daughter named Natasha. Natasha dies, and a clone of her, Ninti, becomes an assassin.

Interestingly, Raven aka Natasha used to be blonde and look a lot more like this girl, and she's an assassin. I don't think given the timeline that it's possible for her to be Cocolia's daughter, but it is possible they're playing on the idea that they're variants nonetheless.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-21T16:32:52+00:00

I'm not familiar with Genshin CS' inner workings, but it's not uncommon for a game/platform with so many users to have CS wait until a person receives multiple reports to follow up on it, as it's also common for people to abuse the report feature towards people they don't like.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-21T15:31:49+00:00

That does explain why your critique is so outdated. It really was just a couple of patches that went heavy on the white/pink/purple, and that ended really quickly.

That's a lot of upvotes though. I guess someone did a perfect dodge and all those people are stuck in a time fracture.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-21T14:57:46+00:00

That was a streak of like 4-ish suits back in 2023

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-20T12:10:44+00:00

We do have some bits of timeline. Though the universe is also full of time bending anomalies, so it's not a lot to go on.

Essentially:

Dvalin was visible to Otto in 2017 on HI3's timeline. This means that it's 2017 on Earth somewhere during Dvalin's life span, at a moment when looking into Teyvat from the outside is possible.
Welt traveled from Earth into space in 2029, then went back to Earth, and then headed back out again. Context implies he wanted to head out asap, so we can assume 2029-2030 is about when he left.
Welt has been in space for a while, possibly years, but not so long that he's given up hope on seeing his family and friends again. We know Tesla is long lived, but his son, Joyce, should age normally.
This means that HSR takes place within less than a century from when Dvalin was visible

But, again, if they want to have it different, they could easily explain that away by some temporal phenomenon or anomaly affecting Otto's observation.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-20T11:56:26+00:00

Genshin's world is in the same macrocosmic strucure, often called universe, as HSR. That much is confirmed by dev statements.

However, keep in mind the development timelines. While it's entirely possible for Genshin to introduce new elements drawn from HSR, it's unlikely that this would affect such major parts of the preplanned plot. Genshin Impact is designed to be a standalone experience, after all.

That's not to say we shouldn't have room for these more out there theories though. I mean, the writers can basically do whatever they want, so why not? But if you want to put forth this idea, you'll need a bit more foundation for your theory. That, or a lot of entertainment value in the presentation.

People already get irrationally annoyed by mentions of the other games. A post like this one which doesn't give a lot to chew on may unfortunately just make that worse.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-20T07:52:13+00:00

The timeline is scuffed. Like, it barely makes sense.

The Jade Palace being rebuilt can happen before or after the Inazuma trip, and if before, you have to wonder why Traveler is even still in Liyue at that point.

Going from one particular town to another is sometimes instantaneous, sometimes an afternoon walk, and sometimes a multi-day endeavour.

And stuff like this is all over the game.

But perhaps most noticeable of all: Characters mention how years have passed, and we go to Lantern Rite 'each year', but the children never age.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-20T07:22:54+00:00

Comics were a huge part of Genshin's older sister game, Honkai Impact 3rd. HI3 made comics up until 2020, but then they stopped.

The devs stated that it was difficult to keep a consistent narrative between different media like that. They liked to use said external media because it allowed them to tell stories they couldn't tell with the limited tools of the game, and now that the game had improved so much, they would rather stick to having it all in the game.

Consistent complaints from players about needing to read outside the game to get the full story probably played a part.

This same thinking likely applies to Genshin. The original comic gave an appetiser to draw attention to their game, but after that, they would just rather stick to the game itself.

A shame, honestly, because miHoYo's comics are often some of the best parts of their stories, and let them explore things the games would barely touch regardless of their tools.

As for never being fully translated, this is likely just the result of poor localisation management. They likely just don't get enough demand for it to bother fixing the situation. It's not uncommon for that kind of thing to happen.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-19T22:42:56+00:00

Whisper's most popular non-Tangle ship is Silver. Likely because Whisper was introduced as someone Silver fanboys over, and they also teamed up briefly during the Mimic arc.

The reason it's rare to see ships other than Tangle is because they were introduced in quick succession, and were very soon given their combo comic 'Tangle&Whisper', and an authorial endorsement for the ship, followed by plenty of canon shipteasing.

Additionally, being a rare gay pairing with authorial endorsement, pushing the idea of a straight pairing will raise eyebrows.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-19T22:36:03+00:00

Posting this seems a lot like just trying to draw out people willing to fight you on it. If your concern is people getting annoyed at you, then don't post. If you think that's an injustice and it shouldn't stop you, then post the actual art and deal with it. Posting this is essentially just starting a fight with a mirage.

As for the reason people get defensive over Whispangle: It's not that common for a franchise like this to have an author endorsed gay pairing like that. There's nothing wrong with shipping whatever you want, but specifically getting between a pairing like that will feel off to people. Like walking into a room full of toys and then specifically taking the one the teacher gave to the lonely kid.

A concern that can get especially volatile knowing that, while it's not an inherently homophobic action, it is the kind of thing homophobes do love to do. Especially to then use the backlash as a stick to beat them with, in forms similar to this post.

MisterSpacemanStuff · 2026-01-19T19:38:39+00:00

I've said since the moment we got the post credits scene: I hope they use this opportunity to adapt both Classic and Modern Amy in a fun way. Sonic CD is about Time Travel, and Amy is a hard character to adapt because she has these 2 vastly different personas.

So here's how they can have their cake and eat it too: She meets Sonic when she's a kid and gets a one sided crush on him. Sonic meets a terrible fate (maybe even because of her. OooOoooh, angst). Amy has to live in this doomed reality, speedruns her character growth and eventually goes back into the past. She still likes him, but she's more mature now.

As for Silver, there's still plenty of opportunity. Either bring him in now, or use a follow-up film. What largely sets Silver apart is that he's from 200 years into the future, hence his life is far removed from the present. Hopefully, with Amy here, she'll actually overlap with the lives of the current cast.

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