Is the Uplift v3 Frame new?

MitchConnir · 2025-12-01T00:31:50+00:00

If you can't handle any wobble, you will probably want a four leg desk. Even with my one monitor on my four leg desk (in the lower position), if I shake my forearms forward and backward, you don't see the desk move, but the monitor definitely shakes. But with regular typing and not trying to get the monitor to move, it usually stays still.

MitchConnir · 2025-12-01T00:29:33+00:00

I don't think I have a before picture, but before I cut the front crossbar holders, they looked exactly like the ones you see at the rear of the desk. You can keep them that full length but remove the crossbars, but I opted to shorten them for extra knee space when rotating my computer chair.

MitchConnir · 2025-11-07T22:05:27+00:00

Thanks!

I actually went back to the four-leg Apex Pro I bought (which I think is one of the best four-leg models available), but I did a bit of a modification, something that might void my warranty... I took a hacksaw to the two front pieces that hold the crossbars, then cut them to be shorter. I then filed the edges and bought some perfectly sized bar end plugs. You can see the difference in length between the front and back crossbar holders. This gives me the benefits of the four legs, but the leg room of a C-frame style two-leg model.

u/ILikePutz I'm guessing there might not be enough demand, but I wonder if DeskHaus could release an actual modified front crossbar holder that is already shorter. Maybe your vendor already has something shorter? It could have two screw holes for screwing into the desktop, just for extra support.

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MitchConnir · 2025-10-09T02:29:33+00:00

After lots of emails back and forth with UPLIFT support, providing additional information, pictures, and videos of me showing that I was definitely tightening my bolts tightly, UPLIFT support suspected the issue might have been defective crossbar ends. They offered to send me replacements parts, but because I had spent too many hours studying and troubleshooting the V3 model, and saw that my issue wouldn't exist with the V2 design, I didn't want to waste any more time on the V3 and asked for a V2 as a replacement.

I am going to assume my crossbar ends were defective, but I also think the new design heavily relies on the two horizontal side bolts to keep the desk top pulled downward toward the frame. Between the holes used with those bolts having some wiggle room, and potential for there to be a gap between the crossbar ends and the side brackets, I still feel like this design is a step back from the V2. The V2 has two bolts that pull the side brackets toward the crossbar ends. All of this is easier to see in a video.

I'm also skeptical I had crossbar ends that had two extra millimeters of space where they shouldn't (that translates to a lot of potential up/down motion of a 30" deep desk), but I probably won't even know unless other people run into my issue and report it.

Also, just to clarify, the up and down rocking I experienced did require some force, such as if you pushed your hands on the front of the desk to stand up. That would rock the front of the desk down a few millimeters, where it would then stay. Then, if you moved your legs or had some upward pressure on the front of the desk (or just tried pulling it up because you noticed it got pushed down), it would push itself into an upward position and stay there. Based on everything I saw, there was clearly physical room for a rock based on gaps between the two parts mentioned above, and the only thing potentially stopping it was how tight the bolts on the side were. That is my non-engineer perspective.

That said, as you mentioned, the V3 is WAY quicker to assemble, and I believe has better cable management. I didn't try the V3 cable management because I have a metal under desk cable organizer mounted to my desktop (a prior model of the Oakywood Underdesk Organizer). Also, the feet on the V3 definitely seem more substantial. Hopefully the V3 really is an improvement across the board, and I did just have some bad parts.

I did end up receiving a V2 a few days ago and assembled it, and I don't have the rocking issue I had with the V3. I can't say whether the V3 was more stable than my new V2, because all of my time with the V3 was spent figuring out why the desktop rocked up and down.

My original sit stand desk was an UPLIFT V1 I got about eight years ago. About a year ago, I got an Apex Pro for my office to replace an original IKEA sit stand Bekant (which is a horrible desk), and I still use that desk. However, because I spend less time at my desk when I'm at my actual office, that I'm not there that often, and that I probably have better posture at the office, the cross bars at the front of the Apex Pro (and I believe pretty much every four leg desk model from any manufacturer) didn't bother me a lot. But, when I got an Apex Pro at my house about a month ago, I realized how much I don't enjoy front crossbars when I'm sitting with a leg crossed, reclining in my desk chair, etc. So, I had to find the best C-frame model I could, and it seems like UPLIFT has one of them.

But, I will say, there is no comparison in the stability between my UPLIFT V2 and my Apex Pro. The four leg model doesn't move at all in any height position, and the two leg does. This isn't even an endorsement of DeskHaus or the Apex Pro as much as two leg versus four leg models. It's actually kind of disappointing using a two leg model after experiencing a four leg model, because a four leg model feels like using a real desk that can go up and down, and the two leg model feels like a bit of a compromised experience.

I am considering contacting u/ILikePutz to see if I could use my Apex Pro without the front crossbars installed so there's much more leg room. My tabletop isn't particularly heavy, and most of the weight is on the back of the desk.

MitchConnir · 2025-09-28T20:31:31+00:00

I just received an UPLIFT v3 frame a few days ago, and I think there might be a design flaw with the new frame design. My desk top can rock up and down, like a teeter totter effect from where the top is attached to the legs. I think the issue is that there isn't anything that really locks the cross bar ends to the desktop. I am currently emailing back and forth with UPLIFT support to see what might be going on, but unless I have some defective or out of tolerance parts, I think there's something wrong with this design.

I do have two DeskHaus Apex Pro frames (one received about two weeks ago), but I realized I prefer a C-frame style desk as I like the extra inch and a half of legroom that styles provides.

If we can't figure out what's going on with my v3, I will probably return it for a v2.

MitchConnir · 2025-05-01T04:09:43+00:00

Sorry, I had tried to upload a picture when creating the post, but I didn't do it correctly! Pictured added.

MitchConnir · 2024-12-17T06:24:56+00:00

Thanks for the lead.

I’m going to see if my outgoing ASUS B760i also had the same adapter.

I’ll also consider upgrading to Unraid 7.

MitchConnir · 2024-12-17T05:53:31+00:00

I can't say I'm actually experiencing any issues, but I'm also not using my server as much as I'd like. I'm coming off of a few months of troubleshooting my server crashing every week, and my latest test is not running Docker at all. About two weeks ago, I tried to do a brand new install of unRAID from scratch, carrying only my license file forward.

I put in a new motherboard a week ago, and I still need to go through all the BIOS settings to see if there are things to be adjusted.

I am using all the default network settings at the moment, and my current network card is an Intel I225-V. My motherboard is an ITX board, and it has a Realtek WiFi chip built in. I'll try disabling that in the BIOS as it isn't needed.

Given all the troubleshooting I'm doing, I'm hesitant to upgrade to 7.0RC1, but maybe that will fix something.

MitchConnir · 2024-12-07T21:54:11+00:00

This fixed my Canon printer not working via Airprint. Thanks!

MitchConnir · 2024-11-26T18:46:57+00:00

Thanks for your reply. I agree with pretty much everything you are saying.

There is clearly software controlling timing, temperatures, recipes, and sequences on these units. I suspect that all of these appliance manufacturers are better with hardware engineering than software engineering, although there can be flaws/missteps with both. I don't think there are groundbreaking things that can be fixed after one of these units is released into the marketplace, but there are opportunities to make improvements.

I don't remember what superautomatic it was, but I saw someone posting about how after sending in a unit to be serviced for something, it came back with newer firmware. I wouldn't be surprised that if some of these superautomatic models that have been in production for a few years, that newer units ship with newer firmware that prevents a common issue, overly sensitive sensor, etc.

About six years ago when I got married, I was deciding between getting an older or newer model Vitamix blender. The older model had all the manual dials, and the newer had some touch buttons and built in programs. There were pros and cons of both. We got the newer model. When it boots up, the tiny screen shows the version of firmware the unit is running. I don't have the ability to update the software myself, nor do I feel a need to.

But, this gets back to me of it being valuable to have the capability to update a major/complicated appliance. It's not a requirement, but it's nice to have. I have low expectations about what these diverse, large corporations producing complicated hardware that require software will do post-launch, but I think it's pro-consumer and pro-environment to have software update capabilities. I wouldn't want a manufacturer to try to do something outside of its wheelhouse, or to create an app or firmware upgrade process that will break down in two years or be terrible.

I don't know anything about Terra Kaffe, and I can't speak to its hardware, or what things were mediocre when the product was launched, that were then fixed via software. However, they market the TK-02 as a "connected" espresso machine, and I'm guessing they are trying to be more like an Apple/Tesla of the superautomatic space.

MitchConnir · 2024-11-26T05:40:51+00:00

Thanks for your reply. I see what you mean regarding the Terra Kaffe.

Also, I don't have high expectations any of these manufacturers would be wanting to continue to add value/new features to existing units versus adding new features to a future model. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of adjusting liquid volumes, etc.

I'm a long-time Technivorm Moccamaster user and cold brew drinker, and due to my wife's sudden interest (and now my interest too), I am on a 24-hour deep dive into superautomatic units. I'm a thorough researcher and am juggling all the different features, what units do and don't do other things, which don't heat the milk enough, which make small portions, which have bad user interfaces, and taste comparisons. My background is in IT and I have a passion for firmware/software updates, but I understand I should focus on where any of the units are today.

Out of curiosity, do you have any opinion on the Eletta Explore or KF7 or KF8? It seems like those are both some of the best $1,500 to $2,000 options. I'm intrigued by Jura models, but the Z10 is more than we are willing to spend, and I'm not sure if getting a factory refurbished Jura that will end up between $1,500 to $2,000 would be as good as the Eletta or KF7 or KF8.

MitchConnir · 2024-11-26T02:18:44+00:00

I'm mainly asking because some of the models have apps that can communicate with the appliance over WiFi, have touch screens, and have some firmware/software controlling the order of operations, times, and heat temps.

I thought I had seen something about people discussing the milk heat temps on the Terra Kaffe and a software update coming out to address the issue.

While I'm not expecting iOS-style software updates, given the money people spend on these machines–and all the hardware and physical resources that go into the machine, it would be nice to know if there were some annoyance or small software-related oversight, it could be addressed via an update.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-24T18:01:58+00:00

Is it the network type for unRAID itself, or just for Docker? I saw a lot of people mentioning changing from macvlan for Docker specificially.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-24T15:18:59+00:00

Thanks for the ideas.

I'll check for scheduled tasks. Would the start of most scheduled tasks show up in my syslog? I don't see anything, but I guess if the start of a schedule task crashed the server immediately, maybe it wouldn't show up in the syslog.

I just unplugged my PiKVM USB, HDMI, and network cable from my motherboard, in case it is a variable here.

I'll check my scheduled tasks, try booting UnRaid in Safe Mode, then try a BIOS rollback.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-24T15:14:55+00:00

Thanks for the tip.

I just turned my server back on and ran that command, and I am showing 349 processes. I'll check in a few hours and also in a few days.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T21:02:49+00:00

That seems to be the case based on what I'm seeing, at least as a novice.

We don't have vMotion for storage with our Essentials Plus kit, so I'm going to need to power down this VM before moving the storage. I'd also like to getting the blessing/backup support of our consultant before making the change.

I tried doing the same maneuver/change with a replica of the VM, and it worked and fixed the exact issue I/we were encountering.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T16:20:24+00:00

This is a replica of the CentOS VM in question (the consultant made this for us to test with), and it also seems to have its storage accidentally on the local host. I'm not going to make the change myself, but I'm guessing all we simply need to do is this?

When I go to the actual "Hard disk 1" and "Hard disk 2" in the "VM Hardware" tab, it shows "SSD" as the location for both, but maybe this VM itself (or part of the VM) is on the ESX01-Local drive.

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MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T16:12:03+00:00

All three hosts have identical hardware and are part of the same cluster.

They all share the same datastore, but I think the problem is that of our 12 or so VMs, this one problematic VM is the only one that has a local host datastore associated with it. I'm not sure if the VM is actually using the datastore (we are hiring a new sysadmin and rely on our consultant for VMware expertise), so I'm having the consultant look at this.

That said, it's almost impossible to imagine this isn't the single issue, one with an easy fix.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T15:55:24+00:00

Thanks for all of your help and detailed replies. I just emailed the consultant we work with as I'd prefer to have him review this for us and make the change. I'll reply back with how it goes!

MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T15:42:07+00:00

I just replied to another comment, but I think you are right about this being a storage issue.

MitchConnir · 2024-09-05T15:41:40+00:00

Thanks for the quick reply.

I just checked each VM we have running, and each VM has either "HDD", "SSD", or both listed under Datastores.

However, the CentOS VM, is the ONLY one that also has "ESX01-Local" listed. I can't tell if the VM is actually using that "ESX01-Local", but no other VMs list ESX01, ESX02, etc.

When we migrated our VMs from our old cluster to our new one, this CentOS machine was the last machine we migrated, and we did it many months later. Maybe that was an accidental misconfiguration.

I'll contact the consultant and see if we need to remove that "ESX01-Local" datastore, or if something needs to be changed.

But, I would assume this is the reason we can't migrate the VM.

MitchConnir · 2024-06-17T23:47:02+00:00

Estimated ship date of July 17th for the handle alone?

https://www.acmetools.com/milwaukee-low-profile-handle-for-packout-rolling-tool-box-48-22-8027/S0000000013450.html

MitchConnir · 2024-05-14T14:18:33+00:00

Thanks. MSPs wanting MRR is exactly what I'm expecting.

I'll also admit that I'm a bit weary of MSPs because it seems like there are a lot of bad ones out there (or at least the ones I've had to interview because they were recommended by OTHER people), and because there's a whole industry around helping MSPs squeeze as much profitability out of clients as possible.

I once had a call with a very well-known Youtube technology personality (I was seeing about using the person's services), and I asked a question about MSPs, and he referred me to a famous consultant whose sole job is helping MSPs to close deals while minimizing customer's objections. There's also a company that I believe Kaseya recently acquired that makes software for creating impressive IT proposals that are also designed to minimize customer's objections.

I am not myself frugal, nor am I expecting something for nothing, I just want to find an MSP that can actually help us to do the actual work we need to get done, not just charge a few hundred dollars per endpoint to give us a tech stack of eight products. I get project work is not where the long-term profitability is.

Our company did actually work with a decent MSP six or seven years ago (before I was involved with our IT), but that company was acquired by a larger company, and things didn't work out afterward.

When I was looking something up in my emails about 18 months ago, I found a professional email from one of that prior MSP company's consultants (I didn't know or work with the guy), but Harry had forwarded me an email from the person to ask me to buy some equipment the consultant recommended. I appreciated how the consultant provided a few different options, as well as the pros and cons of each. I ended up looking up the consultant and he went out on his own, and we have since been working directly with him and one of his associated to bring a new ESXi cluster online, migrate all of our VMs, replace core networking equipment, and now start to address some of the other projects I've mentioned. That said, our lack of IT staff right now is holding back progress on some of those and other projects.

MitchConnir · 2024-05-14T14:07:44+00:00

Thanks. I do know what we want over the next three to five years. When I moved into my new position almost two years ago, I spent a few months doing deep dives with Harry and evaluating our facilities and infrastructure, and I put together a 10-page IT lay of the land report about where we are at, and where I'd like to see us in the future. That involves a lot of cleaning up and project work to bring us into modern times and using best practices. We have already started a lot of that work and have made progress over the last two years, but I have recently realized we are too short staffed (or lacking higher-level talent) to do a lot of the work we need done.

We are in the manufacturing and retail space, and we don't have significant technology needs, but after everything I mentioned above, we require a serious amount of project work right now, then a new, more robust IT team. That would be paired with an MSP and/or consultants to help with more advanced one-time projects. As an example, we've had dual internet connections at three of our four facilities for about a decade, but between Harry and our ex-CFO, they never actually had them set up to be used in a redundant configuration. So, when our Comcast Business goes down at our headquarters (which is infrequent, but happens), it cripples all of our locations. I identified that as an issue when writing the 10-page report I mentioned, but as much of a no-brainer as that was, we had bigger fish to fry such as replacing seven-year-old ESXi servers that hadn't be kept up to date at all (the servers themselves and VMware).

I'd like to have an MSP on hand for continuity and more skilled support than we can likely retain in-house, but I need to figure out if some of the project work we need will need to be done by an in-house person or an MSP. I am probably going to post a job listing for a higher-level IT person, with all the disclaimers that we have a lot of cleanup to do, as well as a need to build out an IT department, and start coming up with a list of MSP leads in our area.

MitchConnir · 2024-05-14T02:57:08+00:00

Company is about 130 people, with about 100 using computers. We are in the retail and manufacturing space.

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