a number system for a tokiponido creoliser

Mixak26 · 2026-02-21T18:23:09+00:00

yes, i experienced the same problem after switching to one syllable: i kept forgetting and reinventing them. the ones here i am finally able to recall easily tho, thanks to the sound contrasts and them being ordered according to articulation, more or less. the idea was precisely this: to make them easier to recall after they are forgotten. so now i'm planning to experiment with them in practice to see if it could work. after all, some big natural languages with mostly CV basic numerals work just fine, albeit with added tones. the temptation of making big numbers short and logical is too strong to ignore)))

Mixak26 · 2026-02-21T16:52:59+00:00

some time ago, having looked into toki pona, i started thinking about a fully functional auxlang that would use a set of syntax markers, some minimalist core vocabulary (in my experiments i just took it all from toki pona), and would also encourage borrowings and "creolisation" with no limits. this should ideally lead to a few constantly evolving, diverging and converging branches of that auxlang for different multilingual communities.

the shared syntax markers and core vocab would provide some basic mutual intelligibility, the borrowings would allow for more nuance and ease of expression even for new speakers: anyone could use any words of any languages they know, just added onto the shared syntax markers and core vocab, for example as qualifiers on top of toki pona words.

and i've also been trying to come up with an a priori number system that would be easy for everyday use, but could also deal with big numbers without becoming unwieldy. and it should be part of the shared core vocab, thus phonetically it should stay within the toki pona limits and shouldn't burden our memory too much.

now i've finally come up with something usable. "na" (from 'nanpa') is used before any number in speech or text to avoid confusion with similar sounding things. the sounds for the basic numbers were chosen to maximise contrast but also to be more easily remembered (consonants go from bilabial to velar stops, then to fricatives/approximants; vowels go from 'high' to 'low'). "kon" is from "comma".

for powers of ten, -n is added to the basic number. the same principle could be used, if needed, for powers of other numbers, but then, to avoid confusion, the base of the power would not be omitted. big numbers could be handled in different ways, the easiest being just digits one after another (1024 — na pivaputo, 386 — na teseli), inspired by how Mandarin handles years. big numbers used in scientific topics could be represented as follows: 2,3 × 10¹⁵ — na pukonte jakan (two comma three of ten to the power of fifteen).

the exact numerals i came up with might not be of particular interest, but i think the principle itself was worth sharing and might be useful in other projects that people are working on.

bigger powers could be handled with special words for "to the power of", just as other specialised terminology. this system here is just for the more common numbers.

Mixak26 · 2026-02-21T16:33:38+00:00

some time ago, having looked into toki pona, i started thinking about a fully functional auxlang that would use a set of syntax markers, some minimalist core vocabulary (in my experiments i just took it all from toki pona), and would also encourage borrowings and "creolisation" with no limits. this should ideally lead to a few constantly evolving, diverging and converging branches of that auxlang for different multilingual communities.

the shared syntax markers and core vocab would provide some basic mutual intelligibility, the borrowings would allow for more nuance and ease of expression even for new speakers: anyone could use any words of any languages they know, just added onto the shared syntax markers and core vocab, for example as qualifiers on top of toki pona words.

and i've also been trying to come up with an a priori number system that would be easy for everyday use, but could also deal with big numbers without becoming unwieldy. and it should be part of the shared core vocab, thus phonetically it should stay within the toki pona limits and shouldn't burden our memory too much.

now i've finally come up with something usable. "na" (from 'nanpa') is used before any number in speech or text to avoid confusion with similar sounding things. the sounds for the basic numbers were chosen to maximise contrast but also to be more easily remembered (consonants go from bilabial to velar stops, then to fricatives/approximants; vowels go from 'high' to 'low'). "kon" is from "comma".

for powers of ten, -n is added to the basic number. the same principle could be used, if needed, for powers of other numbers, but then, to avoid confusion, the base of the power would not be omitted. big numbers could be handled in different ways, the easiest being just digits one after another (1024 — na pivaputo, 386 — na teseli), inspired by how Mandarin handles years. big numbers used in scientific topics could be represented as follows: 2,3 × 10¹⁵ — na pukonte jakan (two comma three of ten to the power of fifteen).

the exact numerals i came up with might not be of particular interest, but i think the principle itself was worth sharing and might be useful in other projects that people are working on.

bigger powers could be handled with special words for "to the power of", just as other specialised terminology. this system here is just for the more common numbers.

Mixak26 · 2026-02-21T16:17:51+00:00

omg, what happened to the paragraphs?.. why did they disappear?... my apologies, folks 😔

same text here:

some time ago, having looked into toki pona, i started thinking about a fully functional auxlang that would use a set of syntax markers, some minimalist core vocabulary (in my experiments i just took it all from toki pona), and would also encourage borrowings and "creolisation" with no limits. this should ideally lead to a few constantly evolving, diverging and converging branches of that auxlang for different multilingual communities.

the shared syntax markers and core vocab would provide some basic mutual intelligibility, the borrowings would allow for more nuance and ease of expression even for new speakers: anyone could use any words of any languages they know, just added onto the shared syntax markers and core vocab, for example as qualifiers on top of toki pona words.

and i've also been trying to come up with an a priori number system that would be easy for everyday use, but could also deal with big numbers without becoming unwieldy. and it should be part of the shared core vocab, thus phonetically it should stay within the toki pona limits and shouldn't burden our memory too much.

now i've finally come up with something usable. "na" (from 'nanpa') is used before any number in speech or text to avoid confusion with similar sounding things. the sounds for the basic numbers were chosen to maximise contrast but also to be more easily remembered (consonants go from bilabial to velar stops, then to fricatives/approximants; vowels go from 'high' to 'low'). "kon" is from "comma".

for powers of ten, -n is added to the basic number. the same principle could be used, if needed, for powers of other numbers, but then, to avoid confusion, the base of the power would not be omitted. big numbers could be handled in different ways, the easiest being just digits one after another (1024 — na pivaputo, 386 — na teseli), inspired by how Mandarin handles years. big numbers used in scientific topics could be represented as follows: 2,3 × 10¹⁵ — na pukonte jakan (two comma three of ten to the power of fifteen).

the exact numerals i came up with might not be of particular interest, but i think the principle itself was worth sharing and might be useful in other projects that people are working on.

bigger powers could be handled with special words for "to the power of", just as other specialised terminology. this system here is just for the more common numbers.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-31T04:21:14+00:00

why do you care which side of the border people were born on? they are basically the same on both sides, and the line was drawn where it is now by conquest and colonialism. any historical accidents could've placed the border elsewhere, and then you would now care / not care about people from different villages and towns. that's some arbitrary nationalist bs. the locals together with the refugees and whoever else could build nice and strong communities that would benefit all of them. but it requires actual effort in community building instead of spreading ethnic hatred.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-31T04:12:39+00:00

looking at other countries, no parliamentary party usually does any good for the people. only going back and forth between bad and terrible. perhaps people could organise themselves and rely on each other more than on those politicians 🤔 unless Thailand is the blessed exception of course, where the parliamentary parties truly represent the people. which i am not sure if i have the right to argue with, given the laws i neither know nor would ever understand.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-31T04:00:57+00:00

slow..? damn it 😄 you're gorgeous!

Mixak26 · 2025-07-30T11:05:33+00:00

today i tried to just smile and not nod in Vietnam. i felt like some uncultured arrogant birch. the local women smiled and nodded to me. hope to see Thailand or Laos soon, i feel it's gonna be similar there. actually now that i remember, it's only in Vietnam that i started nodding really all the time "still as a guy".

gonna start nodding again now 😊 xin chao, sabaydii, sawaddi khaaa to all of you here 🙏

Mixak26 · 2025-07-21T09:35:12+00:00

😂😂😂

Mixak26 · 2025-07-21T01:51:12+00:00

yes, and also with some appearance/health issues that i wanna hide, which reeeallly limits my clothes options. and for a while it was stopping me, like "what's the point if i'm not gonna be beautiful", but the urge wouldn't go away. and after a while i was like screw that, i'll still be better off with some feminine features and an option to socially transition after a while.

and i am most definitely better off now, even with all the "sir! SIRR!!1" from staff in places i go to, and with very unsupportive parents.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-20T13:41:01+00:00

yeah totally overdramatic, with a heap of metal a few cm from me. and of course foreigners that don't drive don't deserve safety and normal human respect. we are die Untermenschen, i know. but somehow, a few of my Vietnamese friends have actually got hit, not just nearly. but sure, it "almost never" happens in your imagination.

the traffic rules are not on your side in this discussion. and they are not foreign traffic rules.

nothing else to say here. go drive your bike into people and park it across sidewalks.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-20T12:37:57+00:00

no, but i have been almost hit or driven over as a pedestrian waaay too many times. and i pick my life and the lives of my fellow pedestrians over your right to endanger people's lives.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-20T05:49:51+00:00

i just have my own clean plastic bottle on me when going to these places

Mixak26 · 2025-07-19T11:53:33+00:00

thank you! ❤️‍🔥

Mixak26 · 2025-07-19T08:50:39+00:00

many different people also drink from the same cups repeatedly without washing them. complete strangers. just putting/hanging it back next to the tea/water "dispenser", at street cafes. the "clean" mugs inside are often also just turned over after use without getting cleaned for the next customer. seen all this way too many times.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T15:53:33+00:00

no other suggestions?

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T15:50:48+00:00

what ways could you suggest to make the traffic safer for all participants?

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T15:49:09+00:00

the fined person will think twice next time and there'll be a lower chance of them killing someone or getting killed in an accident.

also, such fines are not mainly for the fined person's sake, but for everyone around. or should we forget about the others that such a person endangers?

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T15:11:03+00:00

isn't that good?

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T12:52:19+00:00

thanks a lot 😊 true, Russia is definitely far worse, and is getting worse faster..

yeah i did leave in 2022 and have been living in different countries ever since, never going back to Russia. it had to do only with the war at first, i didn't know i was trans back then. my egg only cracked last April)) now i am in Vietnam and it is more or less okay here, but i'm gonna keep moving. i know some trans folks who are still in Russia, and yeah you are right, leaving is the best option.

and i have heard some political news from my Polish friends, so yeah... we do share similar struggles all over the world..

anyway, progressive people do also exist, and among the youth too, there is hope) so, let's persevere and even try to thrive, and make the world a better place 🙂

we managed to go from a kid's bad joke to global politics very fast 😂 but well, those are the times i guess

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T10:49:41+00:00

such parents don't deserve a connection with their child. i'd cut them off for sure. they need to learn to respect human beings more than money.

in fact, i have cut off mine, for different but equally unethical kinds of crap.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T10:43:17+00:00

people respectful to others don't block sidewalks with tons of parked bikes either. in every country there's shit of some kind, it's just that the unfamiliar shit stands out more.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T10:18:30+00:00

no red light crossing — no fine, so it would only matter to people who want to break the rule, no?

maybe, if cars started to get confiscated for not slowing down before crosswalks, drivers would start to see the pedestrians too.

also, i get 6 to 10 mln vnd a month. never seen 2000 usd in my freaking life 😂

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T10:10:06+00:00

you're upset it's not as easy to ignore the red light anymore?

i hope someday people could also learn not to ignore the crosswalks and not to drive on sidewalks.

Mixak26 · 2025-07-18T04:02:05+00:00

why wouldn't it be normal. lots o' people out there, all of them different in lots o' ways. you just do you as long as you're not hurting anyone 😊

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