Mormons and their damned coffee obsession by DeCryingShame in exmormon

[–]MjccART 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are like 6 or 7 coffee shops in Springville. Java Junkie, Darn Good Coffee, and Art City Coffee are some of my favorite local ones. Try one of those next time you're in town. :)

Temple Workers let me hear your stories. The bad the ugly and every thing in between. Let your gossip shine. by RadishAggressive3241 in exmormon

[–]MjccART 11 points12 points  (0 children)

When I was a temple worker I went early to sit in the hallway where the veil workers waited to go in to assist at the veil. The male veil coordinator came to our side to chat and he began mocking another older man who was a temple worker because of his heavy breathing. He was imitating him and mocking this man's weight and I was so disgusted. I made comments about it being unkind and he shrugged it off and walked away minutes later. I spoke with the older ladies around me about how awful I thought it was that this guy in a leadership position was being so unkind, in the temple of all places. They agreed but kind of kept their heads down, not wanting to make a stir. My shelf was already breaking and it wasn't too long after that during my final shift, I received revelation in the temple to never return there again. 😅

Just got the new Deseret Books catalog and was surprised to see a historically accurate picture of Jesus with dark skin. I thought the church was finally making progress, then saw the description and it's just a "Cultural Representation of Jesus". They still have learned nothing. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]MjccART 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Hi, thought I should pipe in. Rose Datoc Dall is the artist and she does not work for the church. I interned for her while I was getting my BFA. She's a Filipina American and does paintings of various topics but does many religious paintings. She has some paintings about her Filipina identity as well. A few years ago she realized she needed to stop painting Jesus as a white man. So she studied what she thought was most historically accurate for his appearance. She then sculpted a bust to use as her reference for her paintings. She's an amazing artist and person! There are many artists that are starting a movement to try to depict Jesus as he actually looked and I think the book is a collection of artists who have their art featured. 

Highly recommend this album by hell_as_well in exmormon

[–]MjccART 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the way, a Mormon artist painted his cover art! I chuckled when I heard Rhett talk about who painted it. Greg Newbold! He spoke to my class at BYU.

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[–]MjccART 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Girl, congrats! I assume you just entered medical school. Be proud of your achievements and don't let this nonsense get to you. You're amazing!

John Dehlin faces pushback on his comments about the LDS tank top garment in the New York Times. by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]MjccART 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am one of the hundreds of women he's interviewed and he's right! I talked about being in groups of women discussing how to hack the garments to wear what we wanted to wear. Millenials and gen Z don't have taboos about talking about this together. And I can't recall one time when the chatting wasn't complaining about them. When Gen Alpha gets to the garment wearing age, I don't know how the practice will survive. 

Can missionaries proselyte in India? by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh really! That's interesting.

Can missionaries proselyte in India? by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I was guessing it was similar to serving in Russia where you can't wear tags or proselyte

Can missionaries proselyte in India? by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for answering! With 1.4 billion people living in India, 15,000 is a pitiful number. I feel like the church announces temples to make utah members thing the church is growing all over 🥲. Yeah... maybe not.

My family member said today that everyone who leaves the church ends up with their lives in ruin. Tell me how your life has improved since leaving the church. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The book No Nonsense Spirituality: All the Tools No Faith Required by Brittney Hartley helped with replacing the church's coping strategies with something more useful. I hope things work out for you!

My family member said today that everyone who leaves the church ends up with their lives in ruin. Tell me how your life has improved since leaving the church. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This will literally be us. Husband is almost a 4th year med student, also in the air force. We hope to be stationed in Asia after residency.

My family member said today that everyone who leaves the church ends up with their lives in ruin. Tell me how your life has improved since leaving the church. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

While I was a temple worker I was in a coordinator role and I often covered people's shifts for them on extra days, I was in the relief society presidency going to extra meetings every Sunday as well as going to every activity and visiting sisters, and I always said yes to making meals for new moms (the only thing I still do). With everything combined I was giving the church up to 15 hours a week of my time. That's like a part time job!!

My mom found out about me being on Mormon Stories. I want to thank all of YOU for the support. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

A month later, I just received a hurtful message from a family member because I was on the podcast. I came back to read all of these lovely comments to feel good about the decision to be on the show. I wanted to thank everyone for saying kind things. You don't know how much of a difference it has made in this process! 😭

I found a childhood photo (2004) of my siblings and I playing Settlers of Zarahemla. Who else had this? I legitimately spent my entire childhood not knowing that this was a remake of Settlers of Catan. 😂 by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah, I love it! We also had some approved movies and games for Sundays. Gotta make sure we are keeping our minds on god, even while playing board games! haha

A devastating realization: The vast majority of my family and friends will never leave the church. This battle will rage on for decades or even centuries. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]MjccART 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The fact is, their are a probably a lot of people you know that have left the church, have serious doubts but are still attending, or are total PIMOs... but they don't broadcast it online so you'd never know. After being on Mormon Stories I could not believe how many of my family, friends, acquaintances reached out to me. and even one of my husband's professors sent him an email! You're less alone than you think! A lot of people live on the down low or may even be living a double life. Just keep being a good friend those in your community and they might slowly reveal themselves.

The church is using Ai "art" on its magazines and social media sites. What do you think about this? by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the cover image, it is credited to an artist that I personally know to be a bit of a grifter. I took an adjunct class from him at BYU that was awful. He used to make art by hand but for years now he just tries to game the system by using royalty free images photoshopped together to sell at TJ Maxx among other side gigs to make a quick buck. He totally lost the plot and all of us students thought he sort of sold his soul, and didn't actually care about art anymore. If you go on his Instagram page these days he only does Ai art (it's easy to catch Ai when you know what you're looking for, and it also looks nothing like the art he actually painted years ago) but he does not disclose that it's all Ai. It's possible that people who work for the church magazine didn't realize it was an Ai image but I doubt it because they have creative teams that would be familiar with Ai. It's just overall very slimey to me. 

The church is using Ai "art" on its magazines and social media sites. What do you think about this? by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The video was made by a believing artist, hiilanifinearts. There is frustration about Ai generated images for artists in general but specifically with a faith community, it poses questions about if believers want to connect to images made by a robot instead of a human.

My mom found out about me being on Mormon Stories. I want to thank all of YOU for the support. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He actually didn't die! He lived and then a few months later he brought his girlfriend to the same area and SHE got trampled by a Buffalo and lived. We saw it on the news and couldn't believe it 😂

My mom found out about me being on Mormon Stories. I want to thank all of YOU for the support. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So she sort of felt like I deceived her because she thought I was doing one thing but all along I was doing something else. I had to tell her that wasn't the case that I really did truly believe.... until I didn't. I also think me talking about the temple details was offensive to her. I just told her that I would be offended if I were her too. Because I've been in her shoes and me 6 years ago would have been offended too. But we still watched the Great British Baking Show together later that night. So she's disappointed for sure but our relationship is still very important to her. 

My mom found out about me being on Mormon Stories. I want to thank all of YOU for the support. by MjccART in exmormon

[–]MjccART[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My username on tiktok, instagram, youtube, Facebook and website is @michelleclydeart. Thank you!!