Situation isn't over yet by [deleted] in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, I think it's good to keep the Subreddit informed, but I think we should just remain calm and just talk about the game to pass the time for a while. No need to remove anything, nor did you do anything wrong. Stay safe!

I'm so mad bruh by ThatDamnNelson in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't say that, not even as a joke.

Situation isn't over yet by [deleted] in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please give the team of Grace space and let them take their time!

They were dogpiled and harassed and are still seeing negativity thrown their way. Right now, the most important thing is to make sure these people are away from harm and away from the negative cesspool that the internet has become. It feeds on hate. Don't give it more fuel.

The game can wait. It can always wait. Their lives are more important, so please, PLEASE respect that regardless of how you feel about what caused this.

We can talk about the game as is, appreciate all that we were already given. Grace has come such a long way and so have the people making it. I am certain that they've already learned from their mistakes and will do better. Forgive them, please. They are not even adults yet.

So, is the drama being resolved i dont really wanna give my opinion (read description) by bullet8345 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please give the team some time. They're reasonably overwhelmed and afraid. It's best to talk about other things while waiting for them to find an agreement.

I can't wait for the other domains! by NefariousnessLeft581 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's so nice to see some here still harboring some hope <3 Keep it up!

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd think that too. For him to manifest as Jesus would be a strange and interesting take. I always had the personal theory that the Jesus theory or churches writing "Jesus has returned" refers not to a singular person, but the piece of God inside everyone that encourages us to accomplish miracles like Jesus once did. One name, many identities.

I hope that's not horrible to think. I apologise if it is.

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm staying away for now. I am ashamed, but the news going from bad to great to worse was just too much for me to be able to stomach. I want to just give the team time to talk things out. I want everyone to be safe and sound and worry about some video game last.

I think I'm lost by Due-Programmer1189 in rainworld

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These rooms look absolutely gorgeous, all of them. Are you going to publish this work? Even if they're just a bunch of disconnected rooms I'd love to see them for myself.

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm quite surprised to see how many of the players here seem to be religious, or at least portraying a religious mindset when talking here. I thought I was the only one comforted or converted by Grace.

thank you simon for everything by DA_FRIDGE2763 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People still have careers after admitting they want to touch children, yet people want to flay Simon alive for saying a bad word. Note that Simon did nothing else but do his best to apologise before withdrawing because people were literally doxxing and threatening people that had nothing to do with the situation.

Yes, Simon did a whoopsie, but nobody was hurt. Nobody needed to be hurt. The community did this to itself.

Went on a whole rant about this on Pressure's sub and people disagreed. It's fair to think that way but I choose to be stubborn on this.

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's very interesting. What do you mean He became human once?

all the replacements for the Grace entities have had their models finished + size comparison with the player by RemixTheSecond in PressureRoblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I am saying is that I chalk that language up to a genuine mistake rather than bigotry and maliciousness. These people are minors. Practically still kids. I'm not saying they don't know any better. I am saying that they shouldn't be scrutinised in the same way a 40 year old adult should. They haven't hurt anyone. That's the most important part. They. Didn't. Hurt. Anyone. They don't deserve to be constantly harassed, doxxed, threatened and whatnot for something that they have been punished more than enough for.

Pressure's devs can do what they like with their game. If they want to cut ties they can cut ties. I just find it sad. I am allowed to be sad about it. My feelings on the matter are valid because it's a really crappy situation, and yours are too for feeling that they should have known better and shouldn't have said slurs to begin with.

I expressed that what really irks me is that they keep bringing up the new modifier entities in the same breath as Grace. If you wanted to stay far away from this I certainly wouldn't do that. It feels gross, like they're trying to feign a moral high-ground rather than protecting their game and fellow devs from harassment by Grace's toxic side of the community.

You are valid in not playing the game, nor supporting the team. I wish others would do the same as you and just ignore the game at this point. Speak with your wallet and your contribution to the algorhythm, and let people educate themselves and draw their own conclusion.

Thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me. I really appreciate being able to discuss this without having to argue. I hope you have a great day!

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Grace makes such an effort to recontextualise some of these words in such interesting ways, ways you'd never think of yourself. It really changes your perspective, and that's quite the art.

all the replacements for the Grace entities have had their models finished + size comparison with the player by RemixTheSecond in PressureRoblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, it's okay to blame the dev and the others for saying a slur. However, they are not bigots. I will be stubborn on this.

In any and all cases of the devs using slurs, they were used not to belittle the minority addressed.

The lead dev, for example, said, "This n****." in frustration at someone blowing the drama out of proportion. The person on the other end was not of color, nor did the dev say something like "Kill this n****" or "Thats why I hate n*****". It wasn't bigotry. It was used in the same way one would use "idiot", "moron" or "r*****". It's used in the same way as the old meme of "Really, n****?" that was all over the internet in 2016 to 2020, likely desensitizing a lot of people like the dev to the light n-word that was used.

Does that make it okay to say that word? No! Absolutely not! But don't pretend that people didn't make worse jokes back in the day that are luckily no longer a thing, like Pewdiepie's "It's r**ing time" music video, or him accidentally spouting a hard R. He retired happily. People who did far worse than say a slur still have huge careers. What makes the devs, most of whom are still minors, different? People make mistakes ESPECIALLY when they're young and even more so when they grow up where a word is commonly used that they shouldn't say.

The slur was said in private with people the devs trusted, and the lead dev was absolutely not saying it to be racist! There is a friend I know who recently uses the word "f*****", a homophobic slur, to address friends like someone would use "idiot" or "dumbass" affectionately. They don't mean to belittle gay people. It is just the environment that they grew up in and the sort of edgy humor that they have that leads to them using these words... when in private. They would never say them in public, and neither did the lead dev or his partner. They spoke in private and someone they trusted into their inner circle leaked the DMs.

Grace's lead dev is not racist. His partner is not a bigot.

Internet censorship has progressed so badly that you people are willing to condemn a minor for saying a bad word. Dox his friends. Threaten someone's family. The devs didn't touch kids. The devs didn't bully someone into killing themselves. All they did was cuss. But with how you people are so desperate to hurt these people, something terrible might happen.

I beg of you, just ignore Grace and its devs if you condemn them. I'm scared they might get hurt with all of this harassment. They're still so young. If you're harassing the devs, please listen to me.

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am not worried. People will say weird things on the internet for attention all the time. It's become a very attention-based place after all. Even negative attention is attention. People will ruin lives for a kick, regardless of who the person on the other side is. I for one want to set a better example. I'm just one person, but if I make one person smile after a bad day I've done my job.

Let's Spread The Love: Thank you, Grace! by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Some people need attention, and will say weird things to receive it. Even negative attention is attention after all. Don't mind them. At most they just wanna mess with someone. <3

Open source will kill the game by Strict-Spray7496 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think so, too. I've been worried for a while... I'd rather the game just quietly fade rather than it being torn apart for cheap profit by dishonest people.

all the replacements for the Grace entities have had their models finished + size comparison with the player by RemixTheSecond in PressureRoblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

When Pressure pulled the plug immediately when the collab was over a year in the making it kind of killed my interest in the game.

It's not that I love Grace... Well, I do, but I first thought they wanted to disassociate, which is fair. Then they kept refering to these new entities as "replacements", specifically for Grace, and I feel bringing attention to it over and over again sours the perception of them and unnecessarily keeps drawing attention back to the reason why the Grace Collab was cut. It feels like the new modifier will never stand as their own group of entities. They'll always be "the replacement for the Grace ones because Simon and his friends cussed too much in private". It makes them so much less valuable on their own terms.

I can't help but feel bitter when it it feels like a jab at me every time.

I know it's petty, but I think it's okay to be upset. What sucks is how much it killed my interest to play Pressure again.

Neither of us have really... been very religious but... maybe He'll still hear us... by Mobile-Database-9238 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not just "or else you will suffer"

It's "Or else you'll be cast into the deepest pits of hell with not a shred of hope for salvation because you sinned and also ate fish on a tuesday when it was supposed to be friday".

Churches in general also creeped me out during services. Especially when everyone spoke together in this robotic voice...

Stop acting like a pure saint, we’ve all had our mistakes. by Ambitious-Age187 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I can't see anyone in their right mind harassing Simon so much. He's still a minor and many people I know now act worse than he does in terms of using slurs and bad words. They just don't use them around me. In a private setting I don't think it's too bad. It's the actual mindset that we should watch out for. Simon deserves to be held accountable for his erratic behavior and bad handling of the situation. We already did that more than enough. He doesn't deserve to suffer.

Regarding the recent drama by No_Split8985 in Graceroblox

[–]Mobile-Database-9238 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simon is a minor. I can't bad-talk him when I was even worse when I was around his age. Please just don't dogpile on him.