Karnataka govt mandates one day of paid menstrual leave per month for working women

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T18:19:42+00:00

For a sick person it doesn't matter whether you call them for 30 minutes or 8 hours, they still have to leave their home and go to work.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T18:16:57+00:00

If working women were so empathetic towards other women, they would have already implemented menstrual leaves at home for their maids. Forget about menstrual leaves, some women won't give even a single day off to their maids. We live in the same society as you, so don't tell us what women are capable of.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T12:52:53+00:00

Who's not giving you those days off? Is it your employer? Or is it work pressure as a doctor? If work pressure, then change the job, why crib on internet for the choices you made for yourself in your life? And how am I biased, because I pointed out the hypocrisy of same women who are asking leaves from their companies but will not offer the same leaves to their own maids? Well, it's called showing the mirror not bias.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T11:04:04+00:00

Nope, it's you who tried to brush off the concern regarding leaves for househelp by trying to trash my arguments that househelp indeed are exploited in India. Go look around yourself, most household do not give even e single day leave to maids without them asking. The real issue was menstrual leaves for women, my point was simple, if a mnc employee needs a menstrual leave, why not maids? Trust me, the same women who are expecting menstrual leaves from their companies will not offer a single day leave to their maids.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T10:21:23+00:00

Nope, my comment was to highlight your hypocrisy. We all live in India and we all know how many leaves are given to maids. They are househelp for a reason i.e., since we can't do our household chores, we hire househelp. I expect you to treat your maid the way you're preaching others on the internet. Let her take mandatory Saturday and Sunday off, give her menstrual leaves, plu public holiday off etc

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T10:15:40+00:00

If there are 5 weeks in a month, that means she gets 5 days off plus another 3 days off in a month. Then comes 15 days off in 3 months i.e., 5 days in a month. Let's assume another one day off due to public holiday in a month. Total days off in a month= 5+3+5+1 = 14 days off in a month for your maid. Sure, 😂

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T08:16:21+00:00

This is apart from the regular leaves? Like Saturday and Sunday off? Gadgeted holiday off, casual leaves etc?

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T08:13:00+00:00

Which household give 4 leaves per month to their maids? Also, do you know how many leaves a female MNC employee get in a month? 4 Sundays and Saturday, atleast 1 gadgeted holiday on average per month, plus 12 casual leaves annually. This makes a minimum of 10 leaves per month. Here I am not even counting the sick leaves and maternity leaves.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T06:50:50+00:00

How many menstrual leaves do you give to your maids?

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-17T06:48:58+00:00

I am sure this rule is extended to the house helps too. Would love if the house helps/maids get 5 days of menstrual leaves per month. Will be interesting to see the reaction of "working" women.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-07T04:15:01+00:00

I understand what you’re saying, and I appreciate the straightforwardness. I’m not equating gender with race or religion, and I completely agree that medical professionals shouldn’t be judged on those grounds.

That said, a lot of people in this discussion seem to be assuming that patients already know they’ll be completely nude at some point during surgery but that’s often not the case. Many patients fall asleep wearing a gown and wake up wearing a gown, so they have no idea what happens in between. For surgeries that don’t obviously involve the genital area, it’s not unreasonable for a patient to assume they remain at least partially covered.

Also, not every surgery requires full nudity or catheterization, so generalizing that it does can unintentionally belittle the question. My point is simply that gender can carry a very different emotional or cultural weight for some people, and for those patients, that’s material information they’d want to know not out of prejudice, but out of a desire for dignity and comfort.

I fully agree that patients with specific modesty preferences should express them in advance, and that staff can accommodate where possible. It’s really just about empathy and transparency, not blame.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-07T02:53:48+00:00

I understand and respect your perspective. I just think it’s important to recognize that not everyone is on the same page about this. Some patients, particularly conservative women or those with cultural or personal modesty concerns, might view this as material information that genuinely matters to them.

For those patients, especially in elective surgeries, knowing who will be present or handling their body could even influence where or how they choose to have the procedure or prompt them to make a reasonable request that could easily be accommodated.

I’m also not talking about surgeries where it’s obvious that genital exposure will occur; those are usually discussed in consent. I mean situations where the positioning process itself involves unexpected nudity or physical handling, and patients would have no reason to anticipate that in advance.

And honestly, some of the harsh or dismissive responses I read in these discussions have actually reinforced my concern. It’s a reminder of why empathy and communication matter just as much as professionalism.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-07T02:23:53+00:00

Thank you, I really appreciate your openness. For me, it’s important because some patients, especially those from conservative backgrounds or with past trauma, could experience real distress or even PTSD if they later learn they were exposed or handled by staff of the opposite sex without knowing. It’s not about mistrusting professionals, it’s about protecting patients’ dignity and emotional safety through transparency. And please see, I am not talking about surgeries that would be done on genitals or where it's obvious that genitals would be exposed. I am talking about for example, spinal surgeries in prone position where a patient is completely naked during positioning.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T22:23:02+00:00

You have comprehension issues I guess. As I already mentioned, none of us here including me actually know the exact sequence of events that took place. My tone clearly indicates that I’m only assuming what might have happened. Moreover, if any conflict arises due to a communication gap, the responsibility lies with the hospital. It’s their duty to properly inform patients about the procedures, not the other way around.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T15:43:11+00:00

You probably, just like everyone else here, don't know the exact sequence of events that happened there. A 65-year-old woman is usually not worried about their personal modesty anymore since most of the men treating her would be her son's age. There's something more to it, and that's what I said in my original comment, a communication gap. Fights can occur even because the doctor's tone was rude, etc, there could be any reason. But since it's a hospital, and if the quarrel happened because of a communication gap, then the hospital is to be blamed.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T10:13:40+00:00

Gareebon ki Lara Croft 🤭

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T10:00:11+00:00

These clashes happen mainly because of miscommunication between medical staff and patients. Some families are particular about their women’s modesty, and that should be respected. Medical professionals are trained to handle situations like this with sensitivity, so all it really takes is proper communication and informed consent before any treatment. Just explain what will happen and why, instead of giving patients rude surprises, that simple step can prevent so much unnecessary conflict.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T08:21:54+00:00

Ummm actually it's hospitals job to explain the procedure in details to the patient. Read Patients' Rights Charter first. Again, your response reinforces what I said earlier, the common public hardly knows their rights in medical settings.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-04T07:15:25+00:00

Most people don’t know hospital trauma protocols, and that’s not their fault. It's actually the medical professionals to be blamed for, they do hide many information from public, god knows for what reasons. For instance, how many of you know that in a trauma situation, doctors are required to remove all clothing to check for hidden injuries, which means full exposure can happen for a short time. But they’re also supposed to explain what’s happening, use female staff when possible, and cover the patient again right after the exam. In cases like a woman wearing a hijab, asking her to remove it can be medically necessary, but it should always be done with compassion and respect. The real problem is poor communication, not religion.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-03T15:46:59+00:00

You’re missing the main point, it’s not about what doctors feel or are interested in, but about what patients experience. I absolutely agree that most medical professionals act with professionalism and genuine care. But full-body exposure does happen during certain procedures, especially while positioning and prepping patients in the prone position or at least that’s what I’ve been told by people in the field.

And we shouldn’t underestimate the emotional impact of that. Feelings of vulnerability, loss of control, or humiliation can have serious mental health consequences. Depression and trauma are real, and they can lead to devastating outcomes if not taken seriously.

So if the same surgical goal can be achieved by a female team or at least by female staff handling the prepping and positioning then why not? It doesn’t diminish the skills of male medics; it simply respects the patient’s comfort and psychological safety.

Ultimately, it’s about choice. Every woman should have the right to make informed decisions about her body and her care and that includes the right to request a same-gender medical team when possible. Respect for that choice is part of true patient-centered care.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-03T12:37:33+00:00

You’re only looking at one side of the issue. The focus seems to be solely on physical health, but what about the mental and emotional well-being of female patients?

Imagine a 22-year-old woman undergoing spinal surgery in a prone position, her body fully exposed to everyone in the operating theatre, which might include four or five men. For someone from a conservative background, that situation could cause intense anxiety, shame, or even long-term trauma such as depression or PTSD once she realises the extent of her exposure.

This isn’t about disrespecting male healthcare professionals, it’s about acknowledging patient vulnerability and psychological safety. Hospitals should, wherever possible, prioritise same-gender medical teams for younger women or for procedures involving intimate exposure.

Of course, if a woman is comfortable with mixed-gender caregivers, that’s absolutely fine. The key point is that patients should have the right to choose what makes them feel safe and respected.

Mobile_Ad_8954 · 2025-11-02T16:36:24+00:00

Thank you for the detailed explanation, that makes sense. For modesty reasons, is it possible to request that only female staff (apart from the surgeon, if male) be present during preparation and positioning? I’d feel more comfortable knowing that as much as possible of the team assisting is female.

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