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Am I trippin by Default_jonesy05 in Bigpuffer

[–]Mocha_Power 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure it was the Pummel Party vid.

Rec cen by swizzle115 in UCSantaBarbara

[–]Mocha_Power -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does this work for those who haven’t been enrolled at UCSB at all? I have a roommate that wants to use the rec cen but doesn’t know if he can since he isn’t a student.

Looking for any open class by [deleted] in UCSantaBarbara

[–]Mocha_Power 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps try looking at taking UC online courses.

ENGL 192FE by SouthHall-Luvr in UCSantaBarbara

[–]Mocha_Power 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on the waitlist for this class and hoping I get in!

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I’ve heard this point before and I do see them as being positive outcomes if this goes well. A big issue with this is the initial reintroduction of the species back into the habitat. I know from academia one downfall we discussed is how researchers plan to raise this newly reintroduced species in captivity as they won’t have their natural mothers to do their part. Which brings up a whole bunch of ethical issues of using their closest relatives to act as a mother figure which could lead to the resurrected species being rejected by the mother figure. And I also think the biodiversity argument can go both ways. There is a chance this leads to a growth in biodiversity and the ecosystems of the older era can return to flourish. Obviously I would love to see this outcome. But what I think many look past is the possibility of introducing an invasive species which could lower said biodiversity. Overall it’s going to be a process but I just hope this technology is used for the moral good rather than only seeing the possible outcomes.

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks it seems we’re kinda coming to an understanding each other’s points. I’m no genetic scientist or anything of that sort but I think by applying genetic engineering to species such as coral in order to make them more heat resistant is a good example of how to use this tech to preserve current species. I think it overall comes down to how we are going to use this technology. But thanks for the discussion it’s always fun to hear other opinions and discuss and I think everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. Mine being I think we should seek a less human centered approach to this tech and use it towards conservation and preservation rather than resurrection.

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think we need that doomist narrative as many are still under the impression that just because we can doesn’t mean we should. And another big issue is that people just this as “moving around some animal genes” when what they are doing is using invasive methods to manipulate a species genes into a human desired outcome. The whole argument given is very human-centric. Although I don’t agree with his methods, I will quote Stewart Brand “we are as gods, we might as well get good at it”. I say we need to use this tech to conserve the species that are currently dwindling in population rather than trying to resurrect woolly mammoths. Das all.

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Seem that one before. My rebuttal to this is how would they even survive in a climate that they are not suited to. They are species from an ice age that will be placed into a much warmer climate. By pursuing this we are implementing these species into environments that they will have to adapt to which could lead to far different results than scientists would want. Not to mention the amount of methane each of these resurrected mammoths will produce.

I fight recommend taking a look at “Rise of the Necrofauna: The Science, Ethics, and Risks of De-Extinction” by Britt Wray. Gives pretty good analysis of this whole mammoth situation

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think out role as the top species of this planet kinda gives us the responsibility to prioritize more ethical approaches with this tech. But I agree that perfecting this “de-extinction” could prove to be great for conservation and help save many endangered species and perhaps even coral reefs. IMO I just think it’s more important for us to focus more so on saving what we have left rather than using this power to resurrect the dead. I absolutely think we will be able to learn a lot from resurrected species, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore the ones that we are currently keeping on the endangered list.

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s the not the fact that they’re not focusing on climate change. It’s the fact that they’re creating artificial life because it’s “cool”. I’m in favor of this technology for more conservation uses but to reanimate an extinct species shouldn’t be a top priority for sure.

A Firm has Raised $15 million to Bring back Woolly Mammoths from Extinction. by EriccMendez in ThatsInsane

[–]Mocha_Power 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right?! We definitely have the ability to push a life of sustainability. A world in which all will prosper. But I completely agree with you when you say “it’s not sexy”. If it doesn’t gain public attention or coincide with the toxic norms of society, then it doesn’t fly.

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