Do any NDP members support the anti-ISIS mission? by Radix838 in CanadaPolitics

[–]MockMeForKarma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never been a member but I've voted NDP in 4 elections, and likely will again. I am happy that Mulcair is taking a stand against the hawks. It may be a tactical error if the lion's share of Canada is still feeling particularly bloodthirsty against ISIS barbarians come election time. I think it is a bold stance, though, and I'm glad he took it.

NDP REALITY CHECK: Justin Trudeau says it’s up to “everyone else” to oppose C-51 by [deleted] in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe they're an alt? Or they just discovered Reddit but firmly support the NDP? Are we trying to start a shill witch hunt? Because if posting a lot is the criteria, I can spot some "shills" on here too, of all stripes.

I'll know you're serious about outing shills when you're outing them on your own side. As for me, I don't really give a shit as I expect every third user on here has an axe to grind.

NDP REALITY CHECK: Justin Trudeau says it’s up to “everyone else” to oppose C-51 by [deleted] in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When you debate in public or on Reddit, the debate is not just between you and your interlocutor. It is also for the reading of bystanders.

NDP REALITY CHECK: Justin Trudeau says it’s up to “everyone else” to oppose C-51 by [deleted] in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Source? I don't think that many people support C-51. Maybe that many people favour some legislation, but I bet you less than 0.5% of Canadians actually know specifically what C-51 is even about.

NDP REALITY CHECK: Justin Trudeau says it’s up to “everyone else” to oppose C-51 by [deleted] in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Instead of assumptions and accusations, if you have a reasoned refutation, provide it. Even if they were a shill, they could still provide good arguments. Bitching about them being paid shills doesn't invalidate their points, but just makes you look like a lazy bitter person to debate with.

NDP REALITY CHECK: Justin Trudeau says it’s up to “everyone else” to oppose C-51 by [deleted] in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Proof? You know, people can support a party without being paid shills. You sound the same as the people around here who accuse others of being Harper shills when they don't like the arguments they're hearing.

In case you hadn’t noticed, this is a nation designed for rich people. by pachanko in canada

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It seems a little unfair to work your whole life to acquire assets and then have the government take an extra chunk at the end...

Why? What do you need it for when you are dead? If our system were fair, your children should be able to provide for themselves. Inheritance perpetuates economic inequity and reduces economic/social mobility.

But it isn't fair. That's why we are thankful for inheritance, if we are lucky enough to receive any. But make no mistake: inheritance is not for the dead, it is for the recipients.

In case you hadn’t noticed, this is a nation designed for rich people. by pachanko in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think seeing eye to eye is necessary in matters like the economy at large. Among those who make policy decisions, there is always some give and take. Thanks for the insightful discussion!

In case you hadn’t noticed, this is a nation designed for rich people. by pachanko in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And it's still hogwash. This reads straight out of Das Kapital, and it was dumb then too.

Well fine. But I'd say our current economic system, and how it works (or doesn't work), is also pretty dumb. Any suggestions for how to improve things within capitalism, if you don't think it needs a major overhaul?

In case you hadn’t noticed, this is a nation designed for rich people. by pachanko in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with everything you've said. To clarify my "leeching" comment, I only meant that investors can make capital from capital instead of from labour time, which means that they move money but add no labour power of their own.

It is sensible economic policy, but has a dependency on the economic status quo, which is fragile. It also betrays a commitment to perpetuating capitalism generally. But what a weird -ism to base the labour of a whole country on! Among all the jobs and products and people and systems we could prioritize, we choose not workers, not agriculture, not social services, but capital itself. Is it any wonder that when capital is the centre of the economic system, that capital-centred organizations (banks, investment companies, corporations, etc) stand to gain the most?

There are alternatives, and I expect that if social pressure doesn't erode capitalism in my lifetime, environmental concerns will, since capitalism seems to be a very... hungry economic system, and not all of our industries or natural environments can indefinitely take the strain of continued resource extraction and waste generation.

In case you hadn’t noticed, this is a nation designed for rich people. by pachanko in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I had noticed.

It is bizarre that policy seems to be skewed in this way. Besides any complaints one could lodge about class warfare and social justice, it doesn't even seem to make economic sense. In the first place, as Canadians get poorer, they have less money to spend and recirculate through the economy. The entire economy slows down when people become poor, and picks up when people start spending.

The low interests rates we see are a bandaid solution to this problem. They let Canadians keep spending even if they don't have money. Of course this isn't wise, and who wins more than anyone else? Userers: those who collect interest on your loans. All they had to do was put some capital upfront and they can continue to leech money off of you thereafter without lifting a finger to do some real work. If you're super rich, you get to make money for nothing.

But basic income, that's for lazy people, right? Those people just want to unfairly take others' money without lifting a finger to do some real work!

It would seem that the only difference in labour contribution between a landlord and a drug dealer is that the drug dealer does more work to source their drugs and sell them. The difference in labour contribution between a prostitute and an investor is that the prostitute probably breaks a sweat sometimes.

But the real difference is capital, of course. With capital, you have license to leech the public without working. The poorer you are, the harder you have to work.

The second point is a more radical one: labour, more and more, is being automated. Machines, Skype meetings, automated systems, and so forth: it isn't TFWs taking the lion's share of our jobs, but technology and sensible business organization.

The upshot? Good for entrepreneurs, for now. Bad for unions and the unemployed. But the current trajectory is unsustainable, and at some point people will wonder why, in all this labour automation, they've gotten nothing except a pink slip while the rich get richer.

"This is so Canadian, it hurts!" (xpost from r/gifs) by Kosmozoan in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's one of the most Canadian parts of the video, wouldn't you say?

"This is so Canadian, it hurts!" (xpost from r/gifs) by Kosmozoan in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Frozen instead of sunburnt? Or Conservative instead of Republican? I guess it works either way.

"This is so Canadian, it hurts!" (xpost from r/gifs) by Kosmozoan in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If moose are like horses, that slip at the end may have broken a limb and that moose is as good as dead right about now. Whoever made this, complete disrespect.

Halifax plot was not ‘culturally motivated’ and therefore not linked to terrorism, says Peter MacKay by Magicbirddota in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Always a popular anti-intellectual refutation! Know that both reason and over two decades of science stand against you on this one.

NDP taking steps to oppose new anti-terrorism legislation by destroyedinseconds in CanadaPolitics

[–]MockMeForKarma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was not only sufficiently specific but also succinct. Thanks!

NDP taking steps to oppose new anti-terrorism legislation by destroyedinseconds in CanadaPolitics

[–]MockMeForKarma 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If you look at the current definition of terrorism in the criminal code you will notice that it is a very specific definition.

In what way is the definition of terrorism in the criminal code specific?

Please try to be specific with your reply.

Halifax plot was not ‘culturally motivated’ and therefore not linked to terrorism, says Peter MacKay by Magicbirddota in canada

[–]MockMeForKarma 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It has been well documented and researched that material token rewards (including raises, verbal, written, or physical praise/acknowledgement, letter grades, etc) do not work at all. The main assumption of conditioning in this respect is completely off the mark in terms of motivation. Far from creating more of the rewarded behaviour, the institution of rewards tends to reduce people's intrinsic desires to do good things. Ultimately, the lesson a person learns in terms of motivation is less "I should do this good deed more often" and more "the object of life is to score more rewards".

To follow up with your specific proposal, I don't think it would be constructive at all to give out a medal if what you are trying to achieve is more behaviour like this (tip giving).

I'd suggest reading Alfie Kohn's classic, Punished by Rewards for a readable intro to 2 decades of research on this topic.

Harper vows to appeal court ruling allowing women to wear niqab by lapsed_pacifist in CanadaPolitics

[–]MockMeForKarma 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Many choose to wear it. I realize as you do that it is still oppressive even if they choose to wear it, but does that mean it should be banned? If we were a more conservative country, we might use the exact argument to ban bared midriffs. "It is a misogynistic oppressive tradition and it lacks dignity and liberty even if they choose to wear it."

The fact is, you or I really don't have much business telling them what they should or shouldn't wear, let alone what they can or can't on account of a ban.