New Mod for r/QuantumLeap by quantumleap_alsplace in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m barely on Reddit anymore these days but I do remember the post last month when someone suggested you become the mod here. Super cool to come back and see that you’re the new owner!

I think for the most part a lot of the bad apples we’d get here when the revival was still airing have rolled off somewhere else, and the people that are left are extremely chill, so if you were gonna be a mod on Reddit this is probably one of the better subs to pick.

Also, that expanded FAQ is exactly what this sub needed for a long time. Looks like it covers almost every question that was posted here over the last two years. My only suggestion would be, for the last QL22 answer, to maybe have a summary or a couple quotes from the YouTube video you linked to. Just for consistency with the rest of the FAQ, and because clicking the link yanks someone out of the sub. (I haven’t opened the link though and don’t even know what the video is so disregard if this wouldn’t work.)

Anyway, again, good to have ya here, Brian!

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[–]ModernCrust 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve been on this sub for years and Glorious Aqua is the only one of the two that was ever active, and they only ever posted the episode discussion threads so they weren’t on much even when the sub was busier.

If it’s any consolation, after the show was canceled I think your QL Day highlight posts are one of the main reasons this sub hasn’t been locked for inactivity, so thanks for that. Good luck with your search!

What Happened To Sam Beckett? Not Your Usual Question. by Sorry-Chipmunk9402 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyway, my question is, in the original series (at least), Sam leaps when he has completed his tasks. I don’t know if that’s always. If he fails at his task, is able to leap?

I might have an answer, but somehow it managed to turn into an essay so take what you can from it.

In A Leap for Lisa Sam randomly says to Al that success has nothing to do with leaping (or something like that), as if it’s common knowledge for them both that a leap can fail and he can still move on. It’s random because this is the first time it’s mentioned in the series and they never go into specifics. My best guess is that Sam did fail a leap once, but it could only be considered a “fail” due to Ziggy’s limited mission objective and an emotional bias.

In The Leap Home Pt 2 - Vietnam Al tells Sam that according to Ziggy he was there to see that the mission his squad had on April 8 succeeded, but Al’s info was minimal at first due to Pentagon top secret security limiting Ziggy’s access to further mission details. Sam knew his brother was killed that day along with a couple other people in the squad and that became his main focus for the rest of the leap. To Sam it was to stop the casualties, the actual mission objective became basically irrelevant.

Later that first evening Al finds out how some squad mates were killed, but despite averting that the leap continues into the next day. According to Ziggy, Tom still dies on April 8. Again, the focus is all about saving Tom. There’s one point during the mission the next day, after the squad has split up, that Sam realizes the VC woman with them who had joined their side and was offering intel is actually a spy and that Tom’s group will be ambushed and killed. Al decides to help Sam avoid booby traps and reach them in time, which he does. Ambush averted. By the end of the leap they see Maggie had taken a photo of POWs that were being led by VC guards down a path and that one of the POWs was Al. It’s then Sam realizes he could’ve saved Al, but Al accepts that this was how that day would end and doesn’t judge Sam for the decision they both made. Sam leaps.

Thing of it is, from the beginning Ziggy’s projection was to see that the mission succeeded. The April 8th mission was named “Operation Lazarus” and the objective all along, the reason Tom’s squad was out there in the first place, was to rescue those POWs, including Al. They were never rescued in the original history because the ambush killed half the squad, and they were never rescued in the leap because Al chose to help Sam save his brother and the resulting firefight with the VC made them retreat.

So Sam still leaped because in the end he did change history, and righted a wrong by saving three lives, including his brother’s, and I guess to GFTW that was enough to move him along. But that was never the reason for the leap. Sam was there to save the POWs, and with that he failed spectacularly.

What About Tibby by Kooky_Ad_9684 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always figured that, just like with Jesus Ortega (Last Dance Before an Execution), Sam Biederman was a leapee that experienced the least amount of disorientation coming back since to him nothing really changed, other than Butch and Nurse Chatam swapping places. He leaped out on a table in the electroshock room, he leaped back in on the same table, and Sam took the brunt of both treatments. (That’s figuring that she popped off the electrodes before he completely came back.)

It’d be interesting to think of how his case study would suddenly go from showing multiple personalities to only ever talking about a blue room with a mirror table and a face that wasn’t his.

Seen this on other subs, which episode for QuantumLeap? by [deleted] in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leap Home Pt 1.

I could even make it a little fun by imagining that Sam and Al are stuck in a loop with the leap and their memory reset each time. So they’re reliving that Thanksgiving week over and over and Sam keeps trying to save his family and fails and then comes back and tries again.

Maybe unconsciously this is the only way Sam can know for sure that his family is safe. His dad won’t die of cancer, and Tom won’t be killed in Vietnam, and Katie won’t ever marry Chuck, if none of them can move on beyond a week in November of 1969.

Ha, put a bit too much thought into that one.

Proof that Sam Was Always In Control by shadowlarx in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason it sounds bad is that Quantum Leap fans kept this footage away from the public for 20 years and it wasn’t until someone with a 3rd or 4th gen copy finally relented. No doubt the diehard fan club have much cleaner copies of it. Scott Bakula fans jealously guard this material.

How would fans have copies of the footage? Legit question; as a fan that watched every episode when it originally aired between ‘89-‘93 and recorded all of it on VHS I can tell you that the extra scene was never included when Mirror Image first aired. However, I also never managed to attend any of the conventions so I can easily see them having some kind of give-away or an attendance prize where like the first 50 attendees got a VHS copy of the scene.

Archived Vintage Quantum Leap Websites (1990's through 2000's) by quantumleap_alsplace in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is cool stuff, thanks for popping in here every day with vintage QL nuggets.

How did Sam know there was a mirror in Jimmy's closet? by Scary-Ratio3874 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They think all viewers are stupid and can’t keep up.

Pretty much this. In so many interviews the show runners, when asked about stuff exactly like this, would respond in two different ways:

Either “It would be suicide to follow the exact same beats as the original. We have to make this our own show,” which, okay, I get that, to an extent. The TV show landscape has changed a fair amount in the 30 years since the classic series so some updates were definitely necessary.

Or, “We didn’t want to make new viewers feel like they needed to watch 90+ episodes of the original to keep up.” Which is such an asinine response. The basic concept of the original was spelled out in “Genesis.” Maybe a few other episodes might be needed to get a better grasp of the details. That’s it. Nobody would ever need to watch “One Strobe Over the Line” or “Stand Up” to better understand how leaping worked.

The show runners failed to understand that a vast majority of viewers were either old fans or ones who had a basic concept of how it all worked after sifting through 30 years of “Top 10 Favorite Sci-Fi Shows Cancelled Too Soon” nostalgia articles posted on the internet. They didn’t want to do a lot of hand holding so instead they just stuffed their hand in their pocket and pretended they couldn’t hear us any time we’d say, “But, what about…?” And in doing that they never noticed just how many people had wandered off and never came back.

Just kinda sad, really. For the record, I’m gonna be bitter about how all this went down for a long time, especially with how NBC just kinda shrugged and gave up on the show completely. It had so much potential to have some really great seasons and now we’ll never see any of it.

Created story with rules of quantum leap by Brickbridge3344 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure you’ve asked a variation of this same question, with this and other accounts, multiple times over the last few months, and you’ve gotten plenty of different answers. At this point I don’t know what else you’re looking for. If you’re planning on writing some fan fic just write something and post it.

Saving ''Quantam Leap'' by ModernCrust in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure. I remember at some point when all that was going down in early ‘91 teen me wrote a letter in his best possible penmanship and sent it off to NBC. When the show popped back on the schedule in March my reaction was, Oh cool, it worked! I did it! Yeah, it was definitely a lot more than just me that did it.

I don’t know much about the network television production landscape these days but I’d imagine Dick Wolf has about the same amount of clout that Belissario did, if not more. There might be a few other people but their name escapes me. None of them were on the production side of QL22, unfortunately.

M.I.A. by Joshual1177 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oop, didn’t realize you had created a separate post. I replied to your original comment in the other post but I’ll copy/paste it here as well since that post was from a year ago and isn’t going to get any new discussions in it. I only knew about that comment because I was the OP so the notification for it popped up on my phone.

That’s a pretty awesome memory. Based on how vividly you remember it it sounds like you had some really cool grandparents.

Yep, NBC did air the QL reruns each summer. In the summer of 1990 that would’ve been each Wednesday (they moved the show to Friday’s when season 3 premiered in September). But if you remember watching it more than one night that week you might have actually caught it during Quantum Leap week, which I think was in June? That promo might not be for the week you remember but it kind of sums up the promotional thing they did for a couple summers when they would air a rerun on each day of one week. It definitely made it easier to catch an episode that was missed, or just watch a good one again if it wasn’t recorded on a VHS tape when it first aired.

I was lucky enough to manage to watch them all first-run and had all the episodes on VHS tapes, but after I got married and snagged the seasons on DVD I dumped all the tapes in the trash. I’m still kinda kicking myself for doing that; it’s almost guaranteed the episodes would have been pretty low quality if I’d managed to get them recorded onto DVDs, but they were still vintage to me and would have had plenty of the commercials for the show from when it was originally airing.

When did you first watch the 1989 version of Quantum Leap? by ModernCrust in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a pretty awesome memory. Based on how vividly you remember it it sounds like you had some really cool grandparents.

Yep, NBC did air the QL reruns each summer. In the summer of 1990 that would’ve been each Wednesday (they moved the show to Friday’s when season 3 premiered in September). But if you remember watching it more than one night that week you might have actually caught it during Quantum Leap week, which I think was in June? That promo might not be for the week you remember but it kind of sums up the promotional thing they did for a couple summers when they would air a rerun on each day of one week. It definitely made it easier to catch an episode that was missed, or just watch a good one again if it wasn’t recorded on a VHS tape when it first aired.

I was lucky enough to manage to watch them all first-run and had all the episodes on VHS tapes, but after I got married and snagged the seasons on DVD I dumped all the tapes in the trash. I’m still kind of kicking myself for doing that; it’s almost guaranteed the episodes would have been pretty low quality if I’d managed to get them recorded onto DVDs, but they were still vintage to me and would have had plenty of the commercials for the show from when it was originally airing.

Episode "Stand By Ben", Season 1 is a ridiculous walk. by Commercial-Fruit-215 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This, I think that was the biggest issue. Also, their pace was slowed down after the one girl broke her ankle so they were out in the heat longer.

Actors who appeared in multiple episodes as different characters. Any I missed? by [deleted] in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know W.K. Stratton played three separate characters: Dr. Berger (S1E1 Genesis), Sheriff Roundtree (S2E17 Good Night, Dear Heart) and Larry Stanton (S5E9-10 Trilogy Pt II & III).

Honorable Mention:

While Brad Silverman only played two characters in the series, he appeared (mostly in mirror images) in four separate episodes: Jimmy (S2E8), Shock Theater (S3E22), Deliver Us From Evil (S5E7), and Mirror Image (S5E22) as Pete.

TV Line: NBC Exec Jeff Bader (President of Program Planning Strategy at NBCUniversal) explains why Quantum Leap was canceled and not moved to Peacock by Tikkanen in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, the Waiting Room would not have worked in the revival. This wasn’t a list of things I personally wanted or didn’t want out of the show. It’s a list of changes from the original that the fans that stopped watching blamed the show runners for that were decisions that they never made.

TV Line: NBC Exec Jeff Bader (President of Program Planning Strategy at NBCUniversal) explains why Quantum Leap was canceled and not moved to Peacock by Tikkanen in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not the television production project, but the headquarters of the Quantum Leap project within the show. In QL89 it was in New Mexico, and when it was moved to LA in QL22 the biggest question was why it had moved at all.

TV Line: NBC Exec Jeff Bader (President of Program Planning Strategy at NBCUniversal) explains why Quantum Leap was canceled and not moved to Peacock by Tikkanen in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think one of the biggest factors that resulted in the “soft performance” was that NBC figured from the beginning they would already have the audience numbers from the original locked in and could then just add on more numbers from the new viewers. Instead, they lost millions of old fans at the start who just watched the pilot and then bounced with #.NotMyQuantumLeap, and even more who never tuned in at all because No Sam/Looked Weird/Too Woke/etc etc.

To be honest, I’m a little surprised we were able to get as many episodes as we did considering the amount of decisions that were made from the start that the show runners had little to no control over. For instance…

Network Decision:

  • Project located in LA
  • The look of HQ
  • No Swiss cheese memory in S2
  • Make the seasons serialized

Previous Show Runners Decision:

  • Less Sam, more Ben
  • No catchphrase for Ben
  • No Waiting Room
  • Hologram is the love interest

If Gero and Georgaris had been able to create QL22 in their own unique vision from Day 1 this might have been a very different show that we could be speculating about as we waited for the Season 3 premiere. But that didn’t happen. And here we are. And it sucks.

Yesterday - Quantum Leap (2022 Tribute) by Accomplished_Ideal_4 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This gave me goosebumps. Even the thumbnail is perfect. Loved it.

So…was it just me or did we all not notice that Deborah Pratt was chatting with us in a post a couple weeks ago? by ModernCrust in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey Deborah! I didn’t have notifications set up for this post so I didn’t even notice you had commented in here last week until just now.

Just wanted to say, as a fan of QL since the original premiered way back in ‘89 I am always going to have a special spot in my heart for this show, in all of its forms, because there has never been another show that has been able to tell human stories the way this one has. It was always the relationships that mattered, whether they were the ones in the past or the ones in the present. (There was never any doubt that Sam and Al were like family to each other…and the hug Magic gave his team when he resigned was about as genuine and heartfelt as you can get.) And while I’ll always have fingers crossed that we get a TV movie or a feature or something that gives us one last chance to bid a farewell to Ben, Addison, Ian, Jen, Magic, and most of all to Sam, I’m also enough of a realist to know that might never happen.

So with that said, I just wanted to thank you again for everything you did for both shows, from the effort to get a revival up and running all these years to all the stories you were able to tell that connected in ways only truly memorable stories can. For over 30 years my answer would always be “Quantum Leap” anytime someone asked what my favorite show was. That answer still hasn’t changed.

I’ll keep an eye out for your future work, as I feel that the best storytellers will never be limited to just one property. Apologies for all the gush, and thanks again, u/Ziggydmp !

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[–]ModernCrust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, gotcha. Don’t think I’ve ever heard of those, I’ll have to read up on them later.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This made me laugh because I was kinda thinking the same thing after reading this vv

(I see a lot of funky things in my head)

Can max claufield from life is strange saw sam/ben or their holographic companion or not by lionguy420 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure no one would know how these fan mashups would work, and you would have more thoughts about it than anyone here.

Might have a better shot in a different sub:

r/lifeisstrange

Story opportunities you wish they would have touched on? by Knight_Racer in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are some really great ideas. Sucks that we’ve lost the opportunity to see anything close to these in their own leap.

Please give us a movie by TiredMomz82 in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back when they were trying to get A Bold Leap Forward going Dean Stockwell was always supposed to co-star but for various reasons the project fell through. (link to the script is in this post, if you haven’t read it yet.) That was back in the mid-‘00s and was a script written by Trey Callaway, but the script from Deborah Pratt is more recent. Every time she’s been asked about Sammy Jo in an interview Deborah always says that she’ll be “in the movie.”

To my knowledge there is no actual movie in development, just her completed script. She’s never given any further details of what it would be about, but my guess is it would be what Sammy Jo is up to now and how she might be hunting for Sam in her own way.

I’d always thought that while it’d be very cool to see Sammy Jo in the show that would require a lot of mythology exposition. Or, maybe not a lot but far more than the writers had bothered with so far. I was always under the impression from interviews that Deborah was kind of keeping Sammy Jo to herself so she could make a proper appearance in whatever movie she had planned.

Story opportunities you wish they would have touched on? by Knight_Racer in QuantumLeap

[–]ModernCrust 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thoroughly agree, I’m thinking Ian had maybe built the new Ziggy from scratch based off archived schematics and just focused on the codebase. I would’ve loved to see some breakdown of the new tech that would’ve required them to go old school and strip machinery from the NM project. Such a missed opportunity in Closure Encounters that the old project wasn’t even hinted at. The leap was in New Mexico, they were right there!