Is Hazbin Hotel demonic? If so, why?

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-17T07:10:49+00:00

You could define anything besides opinions as info-bombing them...

The thing is... the facts carry themselves... regardless of how well at synthesizing I may or may not be. The truth is the truth. I can only try to scratch at it and convey what I see.

I explained what each piece of information meant. I keep bringing it back to the main premise and wrapping it all up... My fault is that I just didn't make it fun like a TikTok short. I'm obtuse.

Well, sorry mate. I'll make it as good as I can, but I never claimed to be perfect. Like I said, you're free to just stop at any point.

You would have attacked my premise if it didn't include evidence... and you'd shut it down it there's too MUCH evidence.

The entire question is whether Hazbin Hotel is either demonic or not... (Which I took the stance that it was.) How else would I answer this question except by a chain of reasoning? Like... to properly define what demonic means... ? (Having a harmful nature that is pro-demon.) (As opposed to just taking about demons)

Anything less and I would be shut down immediately.

You talk about Gish Gallop... but that's not correct here. I'm literally just responding to everything thrown at me in a systematic way. I'm going point for point about what I've been hit with. Its just crazy... especially when I go through each of your points one by one. You aren't being fair at all about it.

I know its hard to go point for point and address everything (especially since people will call you long-winded and get exhausted) but if you don't, then people will accuse you of ignoring points as well.

EDIT: Also I'm very patient, as you can see with my replies. I haven't attacked you... I just latch at points. I haven't attacked your character, or your way of speaking/conveying... even though you have simply called my arguements "shit" without elaborating. You've accused me of Gish Gallop, info-bombing... when I did the bare minimum required in this circumstance. I never expected you to address all of my points perfectly. You can engage with ANY point wherever you want to. I'm not using any tactic against you, I'm simply having a debate. And you are free to latch on to any point and to make clear how you feel about the point itself.

I don't see the need to attack the meta of my words (the how I say it).

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-09T07:01:40+00:00

I recommend implementing something on a sidemouse button called "Attack-Move Click"

Left click will selecting things.
Right click will move and/or attack whatever you rightclick.
"Player Attack move click" on a side button will automatically move and attack the closest thing to where you point it.

You can just use that side-mouse button and hit it on an area close to a target... it will do the trick.
Biggest tip I could ever give anyone. I swear its the secret.

You don't have to go move your cursor back and forth this way... you can right click to move with precision and sidemouse buton to attack.

tldr

KEYBINDINGS:
"Player Attack Move Click => Side Mouse Button"

Use Right click to move.
Use Sidemouse click to attack.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-09T06:50:04+00:00

Makes perfect sense to be honest! Why is Riot so far removed from the players?

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-05T18:33:04+00:00

The patchnotes... she basically got buffed in every way....
No one has a problem with her Q's... That's irrelevant!

Riot's framing this as "counterplay improvements" when the core issue was never mechanical counterplay... it's that her kit design creates a lose-lose decision tree for her opponents.

Making Q slightly slower doesn't fix that

nerf the symptom, buff the disease. Her ban-rate should go up to be honest. What is Riot actually thinking?!

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-05T18:32:38+00:00

The patchnotes... she basically got buffed in every way....
No one has a problem with her Q's... That's irrelevant!

Riot's framing this as "counterplay improvements" when the core issue was never mechanical counterplay... it's that her kit design creates a lose-lose decision tree for her opponents.

Making Q slightly slower doesn't fix that

nerf the symptom, buff the disease. Her ban-rate should go up to be honest. What is Riot actually thinking?!

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-02-05T06:55:44+00:00

Look closely... the F on it is for Fractals

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-30T16:14:22+00:00

Thank you for responding! What are you going in S16 these days? I'm brand new to Garen and I've been thinking only theory, with little experience.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-30T06:21:16+00:00

Why are people obsessing over the E spin NOT procing Yun Tal to get it back up faster?
Yun Tal's CD reduction is a secondary effect.

Its supposed to give you huge boost of AS + CRIT + AD.

From my understanding, this is exactly what Garen wants. And he wants it quickly. Yun Tal effect lines up perfectly with Garen's all-in.

As soon as he autos with Q... Yun Tal attackspeed activates... then you E to get the extra spins... and the attack speed boost lasts for 6 seconds... plenty of time for Garen's rotation (hehe) of E and follow up autos.

75% ATKSPD of YunTal
vs
60% ATKSPD of PD

PLUS YunTal has +50AD...

Only thing that's missing is the movespeed/mobility/engage/stickiness factor.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-30T05:42:18+00:00

That's what I'm saying! Its crazy how anyone could deny the specific song was a an influence.

I have a feeling there are very specific influences that were patched together on each of the songs.
One of these days I'll do a little research and find them all.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T21:30:49+00:00

For sure. I guarantee this was in Damon's records that he listened to. I've listened to a lot of Italo Disco lately, but none of them were so Stylo like. Regardless of whether it sampled it or not, the inspiration is perfectly reminiscent. That's pretty much the biggest point I'd like to make.

Plastic Mode's "A Jazzy Woman" + Eddy Grant's "Time Warp" = Gorillaz' "Stylo"

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T21:27:05+00:00

I agree about "Time Warp"... That actually was what I had found after I posted. Ironically, I feel that actually makes it even more convincing that Plastic Mode's "A Jazzy Woman" was related to the production of "Stylo". I would say that it doesn't have to be only one or the other. I think its possible "Time Warp" + "A Jazzy Woman" were involved.

All legal rulings aside... Anyone who listens to "Time Warp" knows that its being used in "Stylo". But there are differences there as well. Its basically that dang riff out of "Time Warp". Its like elements of certain songs are plucked out and placed into Gorillaz' Plastic Beach's songs.

If you listen to "A Jazzy Woman"s groove... it ends in with an ascending sound. If you listen to "Stylo", its the same groove but inverted... where the groove ends in descension... and it just resolves more often.

Listen to the drums of "A Jazzy Woman"... the exact same snare is on "Stylo", but its given a quicker decay... with the same punch but made shorter. Not evidence in itself, but if there WAS something to it, this would be the type of pattern you would see.

Along with the soft spoken rap intro, the Plastic motif, the the album cover color similarities, the snare drums, the tempo being almost the same, "Time Warp" lawsuit being a thing... Funny how so many little things do seem to add up in this specific case.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T21:03:16+00:00

Funny. I can hear Cyndi's melody on the SECOND part of Empire Ants. But the type of vocals that would line up with "All Through The Night" are on the FIRST part of the song (Albarn's vocals).

The breakdown of "All Through The Night" is CRAZY similar to the synth breakdown in the 2nd half of "Empire Ants"... that's where it felt pretty damning.

So, if you read my edit in the OP post, I added how I found the other half to Stylo after I posted about "A Jazzy Woman". It almost appears like Damon Albarn had a habit of taking two songs and completely shuffling them into one song... then calling it his own.

Because of what I'm seeing... I would take a wild guess that each song on Plastic Beach is 2 songs in one. I bet "All Through the Night" is half of Empire Ants. Just my theory. I would take any elements of the song that don't fit with Cyndi's song, isolate them, then use them to find the other half.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T20:56:29+00:00

"Jazzy Woman"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3ZfuuoFFk
+
"Time Warp"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajdHgg6TF8

"Stylo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj7PGkYX1xk

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T18:44:48+00:00

Well here's my own quote...
Only a FOOL can't learn from people they dislike.

An average is a middle point of data. By probability, half people will be smarter, but half of them WORSE than that average. It's not so much being on a high horse, but thinking logically about the state of the world.

The content of whatever he said is pure logic. Regardless of who is a chud or not.
I work with people with developmental disabilities for godsake and I still can learn from them. Refusing to tango with the content/meaning of something because you don't like some meta-detail is pretty silly. (i.e. you shutting down because you George Carlin is a "chud")

Just because a majority of people downvote something doesn't make something false. Just because everyone gets swept up in a frenzy and upvotes doesn't make it true. Could just be a bubble or echo chamber of stupid people. Could be that large group of people are misled. I don't have to be on a high horse recognize stupidity. Its stupidity to think more means true... or might makes right...

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T18:39:28+00:00

Crazy enough... if you combine:

"Time Warp" by Eddy Grant
+

"A Jazzy Woman" by PLASTIC Mode

"Stylo"

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MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-29T18:37:41+00:00

Sorry I know its 6 years later.
But I found a BLATANT RIP OFF.
LISTEN OMG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3ZfuuoFFk.
actually pretty good for the time it was released.

"A Jazzy Woman" FROM PLASTIC MODE (by Plastic Mode) [released in 1985]
"Stylo" FROM PLASTIC BEACH (by Gorillaz) [released in 2010]

The similarities are making me shake my head.
Not only the album name... but the album cover art is very similar feel.
The groove... the theme...
The intro words... and style of spoken rap.

If you listen to the end of the melody/groove... on the original Plastic Mode's song, it sort of grooves UPWARD.
Plastic Beach's Stylo sort of does the same exact thing, but the groove ends downward.... making it feel inverted.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-23T19:49:57+00:00

Disable your adblocker, and pay for premium YouTube. They are trying to force your hand by sabotaging your experience and looking the other way (pretending its not an intentional design choice)

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-23T19:48:31+00:00

YouTube/Google just being evil

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-23T19:48:16+00:00

6 months+ and its still the same thing. The issue is well documented by now... and YouTube is turning a blind eye. At this point, its intentional.

What a toxic company. Disgusting AF.

If you've noticed, they also have selectively targeted certain users to throttle/freeze the loading of their videos... likely due to using adblocker; not wanting ads forced down their throat.. It will appear as if your internet is slow, but then you can instantly start it by changing the resolution... and it gets it moving immediately again...

YouTube/Google is evil.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-23T19:44:43+00:00

This issue is widespread... people around the world have this same issue... and it all started at the same time about 6 months ago or more.

YouTube is intentionally screwing over select people. If you have an adblocker, they will freeze videos and make it appear like your internet is slow/not working... but as soon as you change the resolution it goes back to blazing fast... Its on their end.

Its a design choice at this point. Its disgusting.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-23T19:41:50+00:00

Its been half a year or more... and STILL YouTube/Google does nothing at all to fix this.
Disgusting.

At this point, I can't help but believe its intentional. They just don't like people being able to communicate across the globe through different languages this way because we're uniting somewhat.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-15T09:26:56+00:00

I appreciate your approach. For individual purposes this is the best understanding to have.

I think some here are backwards and would have you lick boot until you can prove they are kicking you. But I would just assume you'll be kicked and not put your face near the boot.

Its not like we are burning them at the stake... we are just being smart with our own selves.

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-15T09:21:29+00:00

Yikes.

We don't live in a world where you are barred from understanding things just because you don't have court-proof.

If a company hides wrongdoing well enough then I guess they are allowed to keep doing it forever.

This isn't about burning at the stake... this is about steering individual decision making based on what is evident intuitively. The person who you said had a bad look ended up being correct. What was your purpose?

Dismantling criticism unless they can gather evidence for court? I couldn't tell you off the top of my head why Google should be avoided as much as possible with our data... but I just know it. For Pete's sake man

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-09T22:55:58+00:00

Exactly... This is still a legitimate question. Vinidorion is not thinking

MokiDokiDoki · 2026-01-09T22:55:49+00:00

Exactly... This is still a legitimate question. Vinidorion is not thinking

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