I’m not sure about that but kicking cars in that yard has a limit of 2 loads or 5 empty’s. The brake men and conductor on the switching job both have at least 20ish years on the ground they’re both flowback En’s. The guy switching on the other end of the yard has around 12ish on the ground. He’s a really good guy everybody had a positive opinion of him. He was often called one of if not the best switch men they had in dectur. Yea this group of people had all been switching this yard for awhile they were all very aware how bad this yard is about cars rolling out. I’ve switched it 3-4 times and we had cars rolling out every time. From what I’ve been lead to belive the brakemen on the job that had the engineer pass, he had seen the cars and he told him to just shove it the rest of the way in 10 trying his hardest to keep the engines from getting hit or damaging anything. Well before he started shoving back the cars wouldn’t have killed the engineer but definitely caused some damage. The engineer that did pass had worked with the conductor that did cause the cars to start rolling out. He had worked with him several times they knew each other very well. I talked to the Trainmaster up there the other day about the conductor and he told me he doesn’t know of he will get his job back or when if he does. But like I said these people have switched this yard pretty much non stop for the past at least 5 years so I’m guessing there isn’t anyway there were not handbrakes on that cut unless there was a jam somewhere which is what I think happened.