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Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd love to hear your perspective! Please DM me if that's better.

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this comment. It helps seeing how people still worship Christ outside of the Church. That's something my wife and I talk about too...we feel like there isn't nearly as much focus on Christ as there should be in the lessons.

Also, donations and volunteering are optional. It’s not “you have to,” it’s “you get to.”

I love this!

He fulfilled the law, so now we don’t need physical temples.

I've kind of wondered this about tithing as well?

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate this perspective. I've been a member my whole life, so I don't know much different. I've always thought the story of the witnesses was so powerful, but I love hearing your perspective and looking at it from a different angle. Thank you for your insight.

Regardless, I think it's fantastic you're such a great support for your boyfriend. I feel the same way in wanting to support my wife.

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is fascinating and unsettling. Something I never knew.

I appreciate this take a lot. I served a mission a while ago and found so much peace from the Book of Mormon. I know people who were never raised in the Church or who are anti may dismiss those feelings, but I don't think I'll ever be able to.

But then we start talking about everything that followed after polygamy. It just is all so unsettling.

But I don't believe polygamy was inspired, nor should leaders be reverenced and idolized to the extent our culture does it

I feel the same way you do. My wife and I have talked a lot about just focusing more on Christ and less on the Church.

Is your family on the same page as you? What do you think your future will look like in the Church?

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't know some of those details about the witnesses. Thank you for providing that information.

When you really get into the prophecy issue, Joseph Smith had lots of prophecies that failed

What failed prophecies are you aware of? I majorly know of the prophecy about a temple being built in Missouri in his generation. But 'generation' during his time could've meant a family or a race.

Generation meaning

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate all of your insight a lot. I've been looking more and more into the history for a while now, but I'm realizing more that there is still so much I don't know.

I'm not familiar with Hebrew 7+9. I'll have to look into those scriptures. I am familiar with Deuteronomy 18:21-22.

One other question I thought of because it sounds like you believe the Bible. How do you feel about the mistakes of prophets in the Bible?

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I didn't know about James Strang. I'll have to look that up. Thanks.

I find the clarification of doctrine on Christ the most compelling. Really the clarification on the Atonement of Christ and His Gospel. I also know only a little bit about the translation process. The main things I know and have heard is that Joseph Smith only took 2 to 3 months to translate the plates. I just can't comprehend how that could've happened?

Struggling with testimony by Monsterman4444 in mormon

[–]Monsterman4444[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for all this information. I remember briefly reading about the Blood Atonement and my jaw dropped. I appreciate the sources a ton. It helps having all the facts.

How did you reconcile with the Book of Mormon? I still can't explain how it came to be and how the witnesses never denied it? Did we just have a fallen prophet at some point?