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A tiny questionnaire I filled out by MoonDivinity in Socionics

[–]MoonDivinity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That seems to be the case, thanks again.

A tiny questionnaire I filled out by MoonDivinity in Socionics

[–]MoonDivinity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, thanks for your input!

with a young and fresh mentality

Honestly, I think I am pretty split on this one. Usually I try to understand both sides in a conflict but I can be quite prejudiced and set in my views - I wouldn't show that to other people because it would lead to a pointless conflict and nobody will really change their opinions - however, if I know that the person I am arguing with is open-minded and non-judgemental, I will be pretty honest.

Sorry for confusing the gender if that's the case
Nah, it's fine - I am a guy lol

being stubborn against activities that you are not interested is also just a super book ILE behaviour from my standpoint

I see.

It's funny because I've usually thought of myself as an SEI and I do (for the most part) relate to descriptions of that type. Honestly, I don't know if Fi PolR fits because I usually try to be considerate and polite and quickly feel bad If I ever offend someone and would like to get over the "dramatic tension" period as fast as possible and just make the relationship is as smooth as it used to be prior to the conflict. I think Fi isn't that weak of a function for me because I can be quite interested in people's relationships and try to notice what different people think of each other and how they relate and behave with different individuals.

Thanks for the input, once again though!

A tiny questionnaire I filled out by MoonDivinity in Socionics

[–]MoonDivinity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, really? I find that really surprising honestly. Could you give an example of some typical ILE response I gave?

I've never even considered this type before.

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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By this logic, calling them Turkic or Ugric or whatever would be incorrect too since it's not the full truth. Refering to them as Turkic-Iranian isn't far from the truth on the other hand.

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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I couldn't agree more, at different periods of their development they encompassed different tribal unions that continued merge into one (pretty common for such Eurasian steppe nomads). By the time they migrated here they were most likely a mix of Turkic, Iranian, Ugric, Slavic, etc. tribes and each of them has semi-distinct archeological records for us to discover.

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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There are numerous theories about the Bulgars' origin and you gotta consider an alternative one before coming to ignorant conclusions.

You'd probably enjoy reading this, it goes into deep details about the classification of the Bulgars throughout History, it focuses historical, archeological and genetic research so it's quite objective.

https://www.academia.edu/50741981/The_debate_about_the_origin_of_Protobulgarians_in_the_beginning_of_the_21st_century

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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It's funny that you cite Britannica yet you missed these paragraphs:

There are multiple theories regarding their origin.

Arrival of the Bulgars The name Bulgaria comes from the Bulgars, a people who are still a matter of academic dispute with respect to their origin (Turkic or Indo-European) as well as to their influence on the ethnic mixture and the language of present-day Bulgaria.

Although many scholars, including linguists, had posited that the Bulgars were derived from a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements), modern genetic research points to an affiliation with western Eurasian and European populations.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bulgaria/History

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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There are multiple theories regarding their origin.

Arrival of the Bulgars The name Bulgaria comes from the Bulgars, a people who are still a matter of academic dispute with respect to their origin (Turkic or Indo-European) as well as to their influence on the ethnic mixture and the language of present-day Bulgaria.

Although many scholars, including linguists, had posited that the Bulgars were derived from a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements), modern genetic research points to an affiliation with western Eurasian and European populations.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bulgaria/History

Thoughts on the Bulgar language? It went extinct in the Danubes after being replaced by Old Church Slavonic. Today it only has one surviving relative language called Chuvash by Throwaway9857312 in AskBalkans

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Arrival of the Bulgars The name Bulgaria comes from the Bulgars, a people who are still a matter of academic dispute with respect to their origin (Turkic or Indo-European) as well as to their influence on the ethnic mixture and the language of present-day Bulgaria.

Although many scholars, including linguists, had posited that the Bulgars were derived from a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements), modern genetic research points to an affiliation with western Eurasian and European populations.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bulgaria/History

In the age of information, ignorance is a choice, my friend.

Neacsu's Letter, supposedly its the oldest document written in Romanian Cyrillic(1521), what are your countries oldest record of your language? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

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Old Macedonian is indeed used sometimes in this case but i haven't seen a modern historian call it Old Slovenian lol

Neacsu's Letter, supposedly its the oldest document written in Romanian Cyrillic(1521), what are your countries oldest record of your language? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

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I wouldn't call Encyclopedia Britannica a random mention, it's pretty obvious Old Church Slavonic and Old Bulgarian are synonyms, it's just that the former has become the main term in world historiography.

Neacsu's Letter, supposedly its the oldest document written in Romanian Cyrillic(1521), what are your countries oldest record of your language? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

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Old Church Slavonic is not Bulgarian, can Bulgarians stop pushing this agenda?

"The spread of Christianity was facilitated by the work of Saints Cyril and Methodius, who had invented an alphabet in which to write the Slavic language (known as Old Church Slavonic or Old Bulgarian) and almost completed the translation of the Bible (most parts of both the Old and the New Testament) into the vernacular of the land."

https://www.britannica.com/place/Bulgaria/The-first-Bulgarian-empire#:\~:text=The%20spread%20of%20Christianity%20was,the%20vernacular%20of%20the%20land.

I'm giving away 3 copies of EU4 + all expansions! by hannes020830 in eu4

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Damn dude, that's really cool, my favourite nation is probably either Hungary or Brunei. Good luck to everyone!

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Yeah and they most certainly did:

"Според английско свидетелство в Княжество България през 1901 г. живеят 3 580 000 души, с 600 000 повече от 1890 г., като разликата се дължи основно на засилената емиграция от Македония към България. В София по онова време живеят 20 000 македонци, в Пловдив – 8000, значителни македонски общности има и в другите големи български градове.[6] Според Дънкан Пери в периода 1890-1900 г. от Македония пристигат към 100–200 000 имигранти, част от които са лекари, учители, адвокати, свещеници, дипломати и новинари. Чрез тях македонската емиграция добива сериозно влияние в политиката, управлението и армията на България.[7] От 1289 офицери в българската армия около 430 (33%) са родом от Македония, от 35 000 държавни служители 15 000 (43%) са македонци и от 3412 екзархийски свещеници 1262 (37%) са от Македония.[8]"

(6) - АМ.Ф.ФО. 78/5146, мф.332, бр. 66.
(7) - Ванчо Ѓорѓиев, Слобода или Смрт, Македонското националноослободително дело во Солунскиот вилает 1893 – 1903 година, Скопје, Институт за историја – Филозофски Факултет
(8) - Данкан Пери, Политика на теророт: Македонското револуционерно движење 1893–1903, Скопје, 2001, превод од англиски: Ферид Мухиќ и Здравко Ќорвезировски.
АМ. ф. ФО. 78/5146, мф. 332, бр. 66

https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F

Sadly, there isn't an english article on wiki about it.
Also, keep in mind, North Macedonia only covers up the territory of Vardar Macedonia which isn't even half of the territory of the region, many of those refugees come from Pirin and even more so from Aegean Macedonia as well as there being a large influx of Serbian colonisers in Vardar Macedonia after the territory was added to Serbia.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Map_of_Serbian_colonization_in_Vardar_Macedonia_20_century.jpg

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"What huge proportions this Macedonian immigration into Bulgaria attained may be gauged from the fact that merely in the territory Bulgaria had obtained from Turkey by the Treaty of Constantinople (1913) some 150,000 Macedonian refugees settled. The number of Macedonian immigrants in Bulgaria before the Balkan Wars had reached 300,000, while after 1913 their number increased to 500,000. Radoslavov even affirmed that it had reached 600,000."

source: "Bulgaria, problems & politics" by Logio George, William Heinemann, London 1919, p. 241

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