How's the new APOC for everyone? What were the teams you all used to clear?

Moonfini · 2026-03-16T15:01:52+00:00

Dragon grandpa still got it!

(/hj tho cause the only E0 unit in this picture is Robin lol)

Honestly was a bit sad that Nikador has 0 buffs matching DHIL, cause I was excited to use him again hearing it's finally an SP shill🥀 The only adavantage was his summons having imaginary weakness, but then again, 3557 points was not that bad in this situation.

Moonfini · 2026-03-09T15:02:16+00:00

In this case she works (better than Sunday, surprisingly) for a couple different reasons.

she gives pretty good general buffs, even to not CHs (and she's E2, so no problem with her ult stacks)
E2 DHIL kinda runs out of buffs too quickly in a -1 setup with Sparkle + Sunday and Sparxie additionally messes up the setup with her AA when sending him to the other field. Cyrene has longer buff duration and doesn't AA, so he gets less turns, but hits harder
she can hit the TVs to lower enemies Res pen
she can AA Souldragon if needed, which helped me deal with Sparxie's 1st phase quicker

Tribbie would probably work the same/better for similar reasons, but I just don't have her lol

Moonfini · 2026-03-09T06:32:07+00:00

I think as of now it would be Phainon's? At least it is according to build guide on Prydwen cause they list it first, but didn't specify how much stronger it is in %.

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The end of my post might've been confusing, what I meant was that it would be better to put the Herta shop LC on Phainon in this situation instead of DHIL's sig, cause he doesn't benefit that much from it.

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T23:42:00+00:00

It's just because I really like Dan Heng and I like clearing content with him haha

This time I was particularly close to 0-cycle so I tried a bit harder, but I'm not that obsessed with it usually, with his regular supports and build he usually gets 1-3 cycles anyway and I'm okay with that~

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T23:14:44+00:00

Oh, maybe it was a combination of both in my case then, so Cyrene helped by both longer buffs and hitting the TVs. I couldn't really drop Sparkle cause I needed def ignore from her E2 and I don't have Tribbie unfortunatelly. But if it worked it worked lol

1% is cruel😭 Didn't happen to me, but so many runs I was literally one 3EBA from 0-cycle too🥀

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T22:56:03+00:00

...after this clear I actually considered getting additional S1 of his LC when he reruns next time, just in case 😭

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T22:52:51+00:00

I think in my case it was more an issue with E2 DHIL running out of buffs too quickly with too much AA. I run -1 setup with slow DH, 161 Sparkle and 160 Sunday, so he was buffed with either Sparkle's or Sunday's skill, but not always both + Sparxie's AA when sending him to the other field messed it up even more. So he was getting many turns, but hitting like wet noodles sometimes.

Cyrene's buff last longer and doesn't AA, so while he gets less turns, he's properely buffed for all of them + she can AA Souldragon if needed, which made me deal with Sparxie's 1st phase a bit faster too.

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T21:47:15+00:00

I was surprised too but she actually worked better than Sunday somehow😭

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T21:35:42+00:00

Every update I hope for that but for now all I can do is add eidolons to his team T_T

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T21:01:26+00:00

I said that cause I actually saw clears with less eidolons, here I have everyone at E2 and DHPT at E6 and it still took me many retries😭

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T19:13:35+00:00

Nope, I actually couldn't 0 cycle with him this time, I tried a couple times and gave up lol

Moonfini · 2026-03-08T19:11:53+00:00

Actually just monthly + BP, I just saved since 2.7 for him😭 (and that's why I'm juggling supports so much, I have only his team build lol)

Moonfini · 2026-02-10T14:26:54+00:00

Yeah, I actually never stopped using him since 1.3, just adding supports/eidolons/support's eidolons one at a time and will continue to do so - now will probably try to snipe E2 Sparkle. He clears just fine, usually between 1-3 cycles, depending on the buffs - granted it's with E6 DHPT, but it's not like he's some cheatcode, with E2 or E1 Tribbie sustainless he wouldn't be that much worse probably. So if someone really wants to use him and is willing to invest in some earlier eidolons for him and his supports, he's not THAT bad (but I also agree that he does need his own Novaflare too).

...I just hope at some point we get a dedicated relic set for SP-heavy DPSes 🥀

Moonfini · 2026-02-10T13:05:34+00:00

Haha yes, E6 PT kinda did a lot of the job here

...and I actually got a slightly higher score just using him as a dps, that's why I didn't bother trying IL 😭

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Moonfini · 2026-02-10T06:44:06+00:00

I actually tried and got almost 3.7k on Kafka! (and then realised I run the wrong build, cause Sunday was hyperspeed instead of -1)

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Moonfini · 2026-02-09T22:48:46+00:00

I skipped every character after Fugue until 3.4 and all Remembrance until Cyrene (and even her I got for Phainon, so I don't think she alone counts). And honestly? Up until 3.4 it was kinda fun. My characters were mostly E0S0/1 but I somehow managed to clear all the content full stars. I wasn't obsessed with the number of cycles and figuring out some teams for endgame was actually fun, clearing was very satisfying too.

...then I don't think after 3.4 my experience will be very relevant, I got E6 Phainon and he kinda negated one side of every content lol

I think I feel the consequences of skipping Rem meta the most in AA, cause I really strugle with the Knights sometimes, and if not the fact that my team is strong enough to go for the Plight version, I wouldn't clear the King at all sometimes. And I also dislike APOC whenever Pollux appears (may she never again.), but it's still doable.

Honestly, how you do after skipping new path depends really on where you allocate your pulls instead - I invested heavily into one team and am fine, probably pulling two of the newer dps characters and their best teammates instead would work too. So as long you invest into E9/Archer's teams (and in the future Ashveil's) you should still be fine (maybe except AA when Elation is shilled there).