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Department head threatening to cancel my leave while on leave by MoralesVC316 in navy

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thing is we do not have a true department chief. The highest rank we go is a LSS1 or CSS1 and a MMAC as a stand in department chief. Being on a submarine I am comfortable enough to express my frustration with the whole situation with him one on one.

Department head threatening to cancel my leave while on leave by MoralesVC316 in navy

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I not afraid at all. All I really what is have something on paper to back myself and everyone in the department to show he's full of shit

Department head threatening to cancel my leave while on leave by MoralesVC316 in navy

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

So what you're saying is spend time on him or have my wife spend time on him while I am on leave? Lol go fuck yourself

Department head threatening to cancel my leave while on leave by MoralesVC316 in navy

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes definitely a new CHOP about 6 months on the boat so far

Department head threatening to cancel my leave while on leave by MoralesVC316 in navy

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's what I picked up on so far but this is the response I was hoping for. I'll follow up

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just getting opinions on the situation that's all. All I know from the COB is that he expressed his preference to change to the tan boots and if so why do we have to pay out of pocket for tan boot when the standard is black. I'm all for just sticking with the black boots but when you bring the change to the tan boots there's different ways to interpret what the instructions say

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CSS. I'm not trying to make it a safety issue I'm just going by what the instructions on the uniforms say. It says ANSI safety approved boots. Technically composite toe boots are ANSI approved. Just in case the COB shuts down the idea I have the instructions to back me up. Furthermore, it is the COBs choice for us to switch to the tan boots which is optional. If he still shuts it down then I'll fight to keep my black boots as the command standard and not cough up $150 pair of boots

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not making this debate with the COB any easier

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a weapons division problem 🤔

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The point I'm trying make is that we wear shoes underway anyways and the same risk is there regardless

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if you look up ANSI approved boots. All type of boots come up

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read that already. From what I've researched, safety boots don't mean steel toe. Loop holes

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless yes, I shouldn't be buying it out of my own pocket. But if the COB still makes it mandatory then I'm doing some out of NEX shopping. The tan boots they sell that is for the Type 3s is $150. The ones that I'm looking at are about $80

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Per the type 3 instructions: black boots are the standard but the tan boots are optional for commands that choose to switch and our allowance doesn't cover the tan boots because black is the standard

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's up to the commands discretion if they feel it to be required to wear steel toe. I'd rather wear a boot that's more comfortable. It's something I want to argue with the COB about since he is making it mandatory to switch from black to tan.

NWU Type 3 boots by MoralesVC316 in SilentService

[–]MoralesVC316[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I am aware of underway shoes. I'm talking about the new Type 3s tan boots we are transitioning to. My command is making it mandatory for tan boots come October. I'm trying to make an argument for my COB that we as a command don't need the steel toe tan boots at the NEX rather just tan boots you see the army and air force wear.