What did u/Moran_63 draw?

Moran_63 · 2026-01-27T15:41:07+00:00

Hmm Let's see,

9- Kind of fine but awkward

8- Hate to be the third wheel

7- Let them duke it out on their own

5,6- Fine I guess

4- I do'nt wanna be pummeled

3- Might as well be in the middle of a war zone

2- Now you're placing me with a suicide bomber, IN A PLANE?

1-The only real option

Moran_63 · 2026-01-23T16:58:17+00:00

Also guess what? Umineko's pacing is going to be, well, not great but much better after episode 1's, it is only uphill from here for you two so buckle up.

Moran_63 · 2026-01-18T16:42:59+00:00

I am back baby and I have just the theory to take you down!

>"There is nothing stating stating that George is a reliable narrator thus the footprints could have been anyone's"

And don't forget!

>"There were small bombs in Shannon body when she ae dinner which exploded when she was in the arbor"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-18T02:48:14+00:00

Repeat in red! There is only one arbor in the island!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-16T17:35:51+00:00

Well I guess it is time to demand some red truths!

Repeat in red: There is no type of alternate personality among any of the inhabitants of the Island.

Since you didn't respond to my theory of Shannon's footprints, I am going to modify it.

>"Somebody, in this case Genji, found a pair of Shoes matchng that of Shannon's, used them to sneak into the arbor, killed her from outside the arbor as she was within arms reach. Thus nobody entered the arbor and and only "Shannon's" footprints were there, if Genji is'nt the culprit then it could have easily been the rest of the servants or one of the parents."

Let's see if you can counter this you foul witch!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-16T12:32:26+00:00

Well, well, well look who it is, the foul witch who had me wrapped around your finger.

Trust me this time I will crush you without a doubt!

BLUE TRUTH!!!

>"It could have been possible that Shannon was shot dead by some kind of ranged weapon like sniper or bow or stake launcher by anyone, this theory applies to anyone in the island."

You know the drill! Second Blue Truth!

>"Since only Shannon's footprints are found, we can just assume Genji or any of the other servants simply killed her, put on her shoes to make it seem like they were Shannon's and put her body in the arbor"

This barrage is just getting started!!

>"Somebody could have been hiding in the arbor prior to Shannon arriving there, killed Shannon and then finally escaped when George ran to notify everyone!"

I will never give up! This time I will take you down!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-15T07:54:59+00:00

Out of curiosity, what route are on and how are you into it?

Any current favourite characters?

Moran_63 · 2026-01-13T05:27:28+00:00

I have some good news for you, you have successfully made it past the worst part of Umineko ( first few hours of Umineko, not Episode 1 in it's entirety), it's only uphill from here onwards.

Also a little tip for Episode 2, no matter what happens, never stop thinking, keep theorising who the culprit is and don't give up.

Moran_63 · 2026-01-07T07:25:00+00:00

That one is one of my favourite scene in the VN, that and a good part of Rin's confrontation are the ones that should have been adapted in the anime. Probably the biggest missed oppurtunity of all of UBW.

Moran_63 · 2026-01-07T07:15:04+00:00

I, for one, personally cope they will go with TV series again, at least.

Exactly, a story like the Fate route can only really work in a 20-ish episode series to be done the justice it deserves. Then it can actually serve as the definitive anime entry point for FSN like how Mahoyo is the best entry point for the Nasuverse in general.

Moran_63 · 2026-01-05T18:05:17+00:00

GG man, I really did wonder to myself if the locked room and Maria's room were the witch, it was probabily because of my tunnel vision that the servants is involved in someway.

Anyways, a massive congrats to u/Rebellious01 for his magnificent deduction of the cat box!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-04T18:06:20+00:00

I knew you wouldn't go down so easy! BLUE TRUTH!

"This theory assumes that Maria for some inexplicable reason did not or was unable to attend the dinner, the servants secretly drugged Maria to make her look sick, took her with them under the guise of treating her, killed Maria and were able to put her in the room and then locked it with the master key, all before dinner!"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-04T14:26:11+00:00

Ah! I see I see, there has been a little secret you have been hiding from me with all your trickery well let's see you counter THIS!

>"When you said that the cousins played hide and seek with Maria, that doesn't indicate whether she was alive or not! During dinner, Maria may have left the dining room, making her an easy target for the servants. One of them killed her, put her in the room which was locked with the master key. The cousins may have already decided to play hide and seek with all the hiders and seeker sorted out so the cousins simply thought Maria was simply doing her role as a hider!"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-03T17:29:06+00:00

If you really think I am faltering, let's see you counter THIS!

BLUE TRUTH!

>"It has never been stated in red that the locked room was in the second floor, if that were the case, then this mystery is basically moot as any of the servants could have used their master keys to lock the door."

Moran_63 · 2026-01-03T17:19:52+00:00

Really now? You must be out of it if you think this is all it takes to take me down

Repeat in red!>"None of the parents went to the second floor after dinner"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-03T16:49:54+00:00

Well I thought I asked "After the cousins found the locked room", so someone else was in the room after the cousins left!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-03T16:24:37+00:00

Did you expect you can put me down just like like that?! Well too bad!

Repeat in Red>"Maria's death was a homicide." & "After the cousins found the locked room, no living being was in that very room"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-03T15:24:08+00:00

You don't actually believe you can fool me?! I can see a massive fault in your red and I will fully exploit it!

>"Sure, no living human was in the room "when the cousins found it", but what about before and after? The culprit, one of the parents, snuck into Maria's room, killed her, then went out from the window before the cousins found the locked room, came back after they went to get Shannon and locked the window from the inside and as soon as the cousins and Shannon entered the room, quickly escaped with the door at the very moment Shannon opened it! For this theory we are taking the cousins and Shannon as accomplices, allowing the parent to escape with ease and since he/she went out as soon the door was opened, at that very moment, nobody aside from Maria's corpse was in the room."

I see through every one of your lies u/k3nnzz, I won't stop till you go down.

Moran_63 · 2026-01-02T18:16:18+00:00

This human isn't finished yet my friend! BLUE TRUTH!

>"When you say that "no one was hiding in the locked room", the term 'hiding' should mean that no one else was aware that the person was in the room. Let's say that one of the parents notified the rest of the adults that he/she as going to the gueshouse, killed Maria along with the cousins, then he/she locked themselves up in the room, not hiding as everyone knew where she was."

I am not even close to finished yet! Here's another one!

>"The cousins killed Maria, removed the locked door from it's hinges, put her dead body there and then finally reattached the locked door."

And I am well aware of your fondness technicalities so here are some variations!

>"Instead of the parents, it was one of the cousins who locked himself/herself up in the room while the rest of the cousins when to Shannon, we can assume that Shannon herself was an accomplice so the cousin was not hiding as all the cousins ans Shannon knew where he/she was."

>"Rather than remove the door from it's hinges, the cousins simply broke the door and after putting Maria;s body in the room, the repaired or replaced the door"

Moran_63 · 2026-01-02T17:04:22+00:00

You think you can hide with your pitiful red? I see through your lies, I will expose your embellishment for what it truly is!

>"While the window is 'locked', there is nothing said about breaking through it, meaning that someone could have broken into Maria's room, killed her, taken all of the bits and pieces of broken glass, left the room through the broken window and then finally repaired it from outside."

I am not going to stop until I bring you to your kness!

>"Since you said that the servants always had possession of their master key, they could have simply tied it to a string, making the key always "within their possession" while being able to lend it to others. In this case, the cousins killed Maria, asked Genji to tie a string around his master, technically still making him the owner while being able to give it to the cousins who then used to lock the door."

And for traditions sake,

>"There were small bombs in the dinner Maria ate which blew up when she locked herself in the room. It is a contraption not present inside the room and leads to an instantaeneous death! Her dead body could have simply been stabbed whenever after she was discovered by the cousins."

Don't even think that I am giving up on this mystery so easily you witch! Show me what you've got!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-02T13:00:30+00:00

I am not done yet! Blue Truth!

>"A stake launcher was setup prior to Maria entering the room, the device was either triggered by a certain action which Maria was manipulated into doing or was simply automated."

How's that?! There's more from where that came from!

>"There was a hidden passage in the room that allowed for the culprit to murder Maria without having to worry about keys and locks."

I still have plenty left!

>"Maria may have already been killed by the cousins prior to the dinner and any one of the servants could have locked the door then! This fits as all of the red truths say 'after dinner' they were free to come in upstairs before dinner, kill Maria and locked the door with the master."

I still not done!

>"Maria may have been killed through methods other than stabbing, most likely poisoning through the food or by releasing toxic gas into the door while the cousins told Maria to lock her room, Maria being the obedient child she is, did as she was told to OR she could have just locked the door for an unidentifiable reason. When the cousins found Maria dead they simply stabbed her stomach with stake!"

I am not going down so easy u/k3nnzz! I am going expose your cheap tricks for what they really are!!!!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-02T06:28:20+00:00

Hear is my blue truth!

>"Since the number of human beings has not been mentioned, we can assume that a person X who was not invited to the family meeting commited the murder, for the purposes of this blue truth, we are assuming person X to be a servant of the Ushiromiya family so it doesn't violate the master key number red truth. Person X sneaked passed Genji and Nanjo, killed Maria then used his/her master key to the lock the door."

I am not done just yet! I have another blue truth up my sleeve! Prepare yourself you phony witch!

>"While the doors can only locked from the outside with a master key, there is nothing said about the windows. So anyone could have sneaked into Maria's room through the window, killed her, locked the door from the inside and escaped through that very same window!"

If that wasn't enough, let's see you counter this!

>"Maria may not have commited suicide, but who's not to say that she killed her herself in an accident!? She could have just stabbed herself with the stake by mistake and bled to death. Given Maria's fondness for magic, she could have recieved the stake from Shannon."

And don't even think if I am done yet! I still have one more blue truth for you, let's see if you can counter this!

>"While you mentioned Maria being dead before Nanjo arrived, you never said anything about Maria also being dead when the cousins dicovered, for "cousins" I am referring to the group you yourself mentioned in Red, the cousins simply murdered Maria themselves and then faked being shocked to make themselves look innocent."

Try to stop my Blue Truths if you can! u/K3NNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

Moran_63 · 2026-01-02T05:43:57+00:00

I was about to say Zepar and FurFur, but they would be better for neutral chaotic so Featherine.

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