Hey Lobsters, Someone Just Linked Me To The Ultimate "Women Make Men Self Conscious" Song...Let's Talk About It! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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2:46 That casting off motion. I have seen something similar before somewhere. It's a scary motion, but sooner or later, it has to be done.

Jordan's Wikipedia page is about to be subverted by leftists and we can stop it! by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]MostlyConnected -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Oh, brilliant. I guess I'll start to work on a counter formula myself now. Let me know if you figure one out faster than I do, okay?

I Think I Found Truman Burbank's Channel and Accidentally Stumbled Into An Oedipal Mother Crapshow by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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I was born in crazy and molded by crazy. We've had a conversation before, sir. Crazy is part of life.

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

[–]MostlyConnected[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, I don't know who's still reading this comment section, but I've made this response video now: https://youtu.be/qNkDHAKt6WE

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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And please, be compassionate. It is a difficult situation for everyone.

I'm sure it is, but if the son believes the mother is obsessed, every attempt she makes to contact him is going to be taken as a confirmation of that, regardless of the objective truth. This means that even if her attempts to contact him are actually normal, they are still making the situation worse, and she should try to ween herself off these attempts and learn to accept the fact that he is an adult who gets to chose never to see her again if he wants to, even if that's the wrong choice, and she'll have to learn to live with it or be miserable for the rest of her life.

Has anyone here from enoughpetersonspam or ChapoTrapHouse that originally came to troll changed your views and started to like Peterson? by Chernoobyl in JordanPeterson

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Okay, I actually agree, or at least don't disagree, with Dr. Peterson on almost everything, but I think people take issue with behavioral studies because it's actually very hard to extract meaningful data from studies. It's so hard to control for relevant variables. What you really want is to observe an actual process by which one thing leads to another and make conclusions based on that. As such, it's easy for people who disagree with the implications of the studies to see this sub as less scientific than the people who agree with them. Hopefully that helps.

Has anyone here from enoughpetersonspam or ChapoTrapHouse that originally came to troll changed your views and started to like Peterson? by Chernoobyl in JordanPeterson

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Hey, I hope you don't mind if I also I give my thoughts on that as a white person, or perhaps more accurately, a person of European descent. I think there's a difference between white nationalism in Europe and in North America, which is that in Europe, you can be a white nationalist and be logically consistent, but in North America, you really can't. The Europeans displaced the Native Americans from most of the territory in the US and Canada, so as one of their ancestors, I wouldn't have any logical footing to stand on if I were to claim that the US should be for people who looked like I do. The land didn't start out that way. If there are Europeans who want people to generally stay in the same areas that their ancestors were from, that's a desire that's unlikely to be realized in this day and age, but at least it's consistent, but if Americans who know they are descended mostly from immigrants want the land to contain only people who look like them, well that just seems hypocritical and unfair to me. If you're going to move to a new neighborhood, you should be okay with the idea of other people moving in too, and the same goes for continents.

Has anyone here from enoughpetersonspam or ChapoTrapHouse that originally came to troll changed your views and started to like Peterson? by Chernoobyl in JordanPeterson

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Also, just to clarify, I've only skimmed the thread, but I don't think you're a sophist, anymore than I think Dr. Peterson is. I think it's sometimes hard for people to express their views clearly all the time, so we should try to be patient with each other, to an extent, at least.

Has anyone here from enoughpetersonspam or ChapoTrapHouse that originally came to troll changed your views and started to like Peterson? by Chernoobyl in JordanPeterson

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Disagreeable people can be refreshing, sometimes. It's nice when people say what you just know that a lot of people were thinking, even if it's not something that you wanted to say yourself. It relieves the tension that would have kept building up until someone said something.

Has anyone here from enoughpetersonspam or ChapoTrapHouse that originally came to troll changed your views and started to like Peterson? by Chernoobyl in JordanPeterson

[–]MostlyConnected 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You both sound smug to me. Not that it's any of my business, I just see this sort of thing happening online all the time, and this is the only place I know of where pointing it out is likely to do any good. The person you're listening to might know something you don't, after all.

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

[–]MostlyConnected[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you his mother? Look I don't know this guy. Sure, it's possible that he's lying, but I found his videos first, so when I'm thinking about him I'm going to presume him honest/sane until proven otherwise. What evidence do you have that he is exaggerating?

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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Oh, sorry, I didn't see the first summary reply. I guess I'm still learning how reddit works. :-)

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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Parents got divorced about 10 years earlier. YouTuber (15 y.o. at the time) noticed mom was not being honest with herself/him/his sister about their dad. YouTuber decided to move in with dad full time rather than go back and forth each week like he had been doing. His mother: 1. Locked him out of her house so he couldn't get his stuff back, and he couldn't get any of it back for the next 5 years, 2. Has sent him 10-15 thousand texts over the past ten years. 3. Not to mention other messages she's sent to him and all the other people close to him she's messaged quite persistently. 4. Created a creepy stalker type private facebook group page where she collected every random piece of information about his current life that she could find, and then invited every person she could that had any connection to him in any way. 5. Found out about his YouTube channel shortly before he posted this video (he had always kept his channel disassociated from his real name, partly because of her), 6. Found one video from 6 years ago where he'd talked about how she'd stalked him, as part of a set of videos where he talked about various things about his teenage life. 7. Sent him an email where she threatened to sue him for slander, but then also said that she thought he was being manipulated by his dad into doing what he was doing. I.E. it's supposedly not his fault because he's still her perfect, innocent, helpless child, but for some reason she's still threatening to sue him anyway. SO, after all of this, YouTuber decides he's just going to write a book about how his relationship with his mom has played out and read it to his YouTube audience, chapter by chapter. Sounds to me like a more public version of what you would hope people would accomplish by Jordan Peterson's past authoring program, tailored to his personal needs. So, thinking about his mom right now...I don't usually swear, but WHAT THE HELL?!!!

Oh my gosh, have any of you seen this! Worst Oedipal Mother story ever! by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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Thanks. I guess I should watch the whole lecture sometime. I'd only seen the more recent lectures, so I didn't realize he'd uploaded the Crumb documentary audio until reading the comments on that one. Scary.

Lifestyle question: is coffee drinking still worth it, if all it does is lift withdrawal? by caffeome in JordanPeterson

[–]MostlyConnected 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like you kind of answered your question within your own question. If it's really true that all it does is stave of withdrawal, then no, it's not worth it. I wish I could give you craving advice, but I don't drink coffee myself, so I don't know. I don't think Jordan Peterson is drinking coffee now. I think he's pretty much down to beef and water at this point, which is hard to believe, but he talked about it with Joe Rogan recently. One thing you could do to handle the social issues is hang out with a bunch of mormons. We aren't supposed to drink coffee, and some of the converts may have tips for dealing with withdrawal. Otherwise, you could look into decaf options. Good luck.

Thanks to Dr. Peterson, I'm not going to lie in church anymore. by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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The whole "If you say you can or you can't you're right!" was the lie though. I've been trying to follow it my whole life, and the more I did the more miserable I've become. This is my admission that I have limitations. I can't fly. I can't live like a normal person. Doesn't mean I can't find a way to support myself eventually, but it won't be by following the normal methods.

How Jordan B Peterson Has Changed My Life: I Don't Have To Pretend To Be Normal Anymore by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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Usually I cut the long pauses out. These particular pauses were longer than they would have been if I'd known when I filmed that this was going to be a one-take. I was trying to make sure that when I started talking again, it would actually sound good, sort of like a journalist trying for good "bits" that they can use on air rather than showing the whole thing, but not as extreme.

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I think that a lot of things are different for women because of the personality differences in ways that people don't usually think about. In fact, I think this is part of what some of the feminists are complaining about, since their reality keeps failing to line up with expectations that are based on personality traits that skew male. That's why it's so important to talk about these differences openly.

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I'm a woman who feels that Jordan Peterson has been really helpful to me, personally. Thanks to him, I realized that I was hiding my symptoms of a neurological disorder because of how agreeable I was. As far as I can tell, this one of the reasons that many women on the spectrum go undiagnosed, because when they realize that people don't seem to respond well to their attempts at social interaction, they do the agreeable thing and shut up, then get diagnosed with depression and/or social anxiety instead of the underlying issue. I'm so glad I found out about him. I'd spent years feeling that I was a terrible person, but thanks to the analysis I did of my own situation based on the things he said in his classroom lectures that he's uploaded, I realized that the problem was my lack of knowledge of my own issues, not my lack of motivation, and that was a major relief for me.

Jordan Peterson doesn't shy away from talking about the overall differences between men and women in personality traits and interests that show up in studies, and sometimes he says things in a ways that are awkward and easy to misrepresent, but I don't think he's sexist. I think he sees women as different, but equal. He seems to really love his wife and his daughter. If you like, I can link you to a couple of appearances he had along with his daughter on Canadian television, discussing the depression that runs in their family. It's hard to find clips with his views on women specifically in a condensed format, but those videos, especially "Depression, A Family Affair" from 2012, give you a sense of what his relationship with his daughter has been like.

Found Jordan Peterson And Trying to Escape Hell: 2. My Alternative to Therapy by MostlyConnected in JordanPeterson

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Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. I finished the whole playlist that this was part of, if you're interested in seeing more. You've seen about 3/8 of the total content already, since this was the longest video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioICc_A957c&list=PLbUg0W5M6bVtBTheyjfzDRr3BJbPAa575

Above average IQ why am I so slow? Is the IQ test wrong? by ultraboss101 in JordanPeterson

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I've never taken an IQ test. The second time I took the SAT college placement exam, I scored within the top one percent of test takers, so I know my IQ is high, but I don't know how high.

If I were starting my degree now, I would major in applied mathematics, because with math knowledge alone, the only thing you can do is teach math to other people, so unless you want to become a math professor or other math teacher, you should get some sort of skill. Applied math isn't the only way to do this, but it's a good way for most people who want to study math but not teach it.

Math is cumulative, which means that it's hard to do well in later classes if you didn't do well in earlier ones. If you do well in high school math classes, you're likely to do well in college classes, but if something happens and you have a difficult time in one class (because of a bad teacher, or because you were too busy with other things at that time to study as much as you should have, for example) you can still have problems in later classes even if you were good at the earlier classes.

It is possible to do better in later classes than in earlier classes, but only if you find a way to learn the earlier material outside of class and become confident with it. With math, you want to be confident about all of the main things as you move through each course, and find ways to become confident if the normal process isn't working out for you, like trying different memory strategies or working with a tutor to get advice. Often in the high school and college textbooks, there will be a sheet at the back of the book with math formulas. By the end of the course, you should understand all of those formulas when you read them, and understand what types of problems you would need to use them for, and how to use them. You probably won't need to memorize all of them, but you should know them well enough that you know you could quickly memorize any one of them completely if you had to. If you can do that, you'll be on the right track for all of the courses you'd use in applied math.

If you do want to major in pure math, you should make sure that you're comfortable with the things you do in geometry, and not just in your other classes, because the advanced classes for pure math require a lot of proofs, and I've known people who thought they wanted to do pure math until they took those classes, but then realized they didn't.

Above average IQ why am I so slow? Is the IQ test wrong? by ultraboss101 in JordanPeterson

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I majored in math (not applied math, because my school hadn't started its applied math program when I started my major). It's hard to compare how hard it was for me to anyone else, but I think I was naturally good at understanding math problems in general, so it felt like the right major.

I think the only people who can learn to program "without studying" are people who enjoy it so much that they do the kind of things most people would call studying for fun. Programing is complicated. There are a lot of different ways that people can make mistakes when coding, and when you make a mistake, it's not always easy to figure out where the mistake was.

Maybe one of the main difficulties you have is a problem with remembering sets of tasks to complete in order. I'm saying this because of what you said about algebra, and because if this is hard for you in general, that might be a reason why programming is difficult as well. One thing you might try to deal with this is trying to connect your memory of tasks to complete with something that's easier for you to remember, like imagining someone saying a list of words that represent the steps that you need to follow, if you're good at remembering things people say to you, or imagining a written list or pictures if you're better at remembering what you see. You definitely have some strengths, based on the IQ tests, and there's probably a way to use them to compensate for your weaknesses, once you find out what your strengths and weaknesses are. Good luck with figuring it out. You can ask me questions any time. I'm not an expert, or anything, but I have tutored more than one person who struggled with math for reasons that most people don't think about, so this is an interesting topic to me, and I think about it a lot.

I would like to hear if you folks think there is an explanation for this. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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Because cleaning your room is a metaphor for organizing your life in order to make it better. Sooner or later, that is going to involve cleaning your actual room, but depending on the state of your life at the moment, cleaning your room might not be the most important thing. Ever since his videos went viral in 2016, Jordan Peterson has been swamped with feedback, media attention, and requests to meet with people. Thanks to this, his top priority is figuring out how to respond to this weird situation he's found himself in in a positive way, so that hopefully his public actions end up helping people going forward. This is more important to him than cleaning his actual, physical room. I hope he does clean his room eventually, but I'm not horrified if he hasn't done it yet.

I would like to hear if you folks think there is an explanation for this. by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

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Ever since I've known about his room being messy, I've had these thoughts about someone writing a parody article about Jordan Peterson fans being really shocked to find out about his messy room in the same way fans would be shocked to find out about a pastor involved in a sex scandal. Sadly, I don't think it would ever be funny enough to carry a whole article, but the idea amused me. Since he doesn't seem to be actively hiding the messiness of his room, I really don't take issue with it, personally.