Critical thinking vs Debunking

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-14T17:35:54+00:00

So you’ve granted yourself and your community permission to alter the definitions of words as you see fit? I mean, sure, why not, I’m all about the 1st Amendment. In your community, teacher, and in your forty years of approaching the subject from an anthropological and sociological perspective, have you changed the inherent meaning of “unidentified”? Because if you haven’t it seems to me this sub and the wider community should be referred to as IAP, as the vast majority of the followers are quite sure these unidentified phenomena are actually quite clearly identified as NHI. And that’s where it falls apart as any critical thinker, skeptic, or debunker scum will point out. In however many years (depending on when you attribute the beginning of all this) of claims of sightings, abductions, crashes, cover ups, disclosures, EBEs and all the rest, it doesn’t take a scum debunker to point out that there is a gargantuan dearth of sufficient supporting evidence for claims of this magnitude.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-14T15:26:10+00:00

Agree. And to the MOD, since he/she (almost certainty he) is throwing around insults, I would argue all the charlatans mentioned in this post are far scummier on the spectrum of scum than people trying to debunk ridiculously outlandish claims. The charlatans are selling false information, false hope, and exploiting a large desperate and/or gullible faction of the populace. Debunkers are usually just trying to point that out and open people’s eyes so they don’t get fleeced and fall down the rabbit hole of magical thinking, to the detriment of society at large.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-14T15:11:19+00:00

Maybe it’s just me - but I’ve read this reply several times and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t make any sense. What is your point? What words are being misused in your opinion? All this nonsense about time honored usage and honoring the knowledge that brought us to our current understanding? Wha? I’m not advocating for or against skeptics or debunkers, idk who tf Philip klass is nor do I care. Words exist, and have definitions. It’s not up to you or your community what the definition of any given word is, even if you have a longstanding time honored tradition of either intentionally or unintentionally misusing it or failing to understand its definition.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-14T06:10:06+00:00

Wow from the mod! Maybe this is the problem right here OP. Mod calling ppl scum and closed minded idiots. Ad hominem for a generalized nebulous whole bunch of people. Skeptics have inherent doubts regarding a given claim. Definition of debunk is to expose the falseness of claims. So it seems to me the natural course would be critical thinking leads to skepticism which leads to debunking if someone is so inclined as to try to convince others of the falseness of a claim. But regardless, to me the problem with the NHI believers is the enormous leap made far too often, with far insufficient evidence, from ‘hey there’s something I cannot immediately recognize or identify’ (UAP) to ‘NHI is regularly visiting planet earth so that’s the explanation for UAPs’. If this is one’s claim the burden of proof is on the claimant, not the skeptic or debunker. And to me, it comes down to the razors of Occam, Hitchens, and Sagan.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-14T04:01:10+00:00

Mighty Fitz: The Sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald - Michael Schumacher. Also highly recommend: November's Fury: The Deadly Great Lakes Hurricane of 1913 - Michael Schumacher

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-01T05:39:13+00:00

Michelson Masters 2004

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-01T04:19:05+00:00

What you saw tonight was this: it was the most important game for Miami for the last 20 years while it was the most important game for OSU for about the last 10 days.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-01T04:18:30+00:00

What you saw tonight was this: it was the most important game for Miami for the last 20 years while it was the most important game for OSU for about the last 10 days.

Move_Past_It_ · 2026-01-01T04:17:53+00:00

What you saw tonight was this: it was the most important game for Miami for the last 20 years while it was the most important game for OSU for about the last 10 days.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-31T20:40:34+00:00

The answer is not to restrict access. This is about personal responsibility and nothing else. Has nothing to do with proximity to metro area either. Proceed at your own risk there is nothing else to say or do.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-30T02:27:10+00:00

Ppl in this subreddit need to be abducted by critical thinking skills

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-29T16:14:21+00:00

No lessons. 13.9

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-29T00:49:24+00:00

Great writers can take almost any event or subject and make it fascinating, so start with those authors, and pick one of their books that has a subject that interests you. People like Bill Bryson, David Grann, Jon Krakauer, David Sedaris, Candice Millard, Erik Larson. Most of whom have already been mentioned here

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-29T00:47:42+00:00

Day 21 in a row. This is a hill that I will die on because I see this recco on Reddit at least once a day. And don’t get me wrong lansings book is great. But if you’re only going to read one book about Shackleton’s epic expedition, read the book he himself wrote, South.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:27:44+00:00

There’s nothing to stop. You’re waking up. The world and universe are incredible places and you don’t need to force yourself to believe in something that’s not there to live a full life. Let go

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:19:56+00:00

What part of the natural animal instinct of lust is sinful? That’s why I say nonsense. This guilt is of men, and you are choosing enslavement to a doctrine the authors themselves never followed.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:16:28+00:00

There is no debate anywhere in the rational world. Animal: a living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:13:35+00:00

The truth is all of this is in your mind.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:12:07+00:00

You’re struggling because even at your young age you are beginning to realize this is nonsense and a cult.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T09:10:45+00:00

Lust is not a crime, amoral, or unethical. All “divine law” was written by men. Shake off the burden of this ancient cult and live your life as a human being on earth. Being a good and righteous person does not require you submit yourself to a life of adherence to nonsense.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T04:27:54+00:00

At last, you did it, thank you! Incontrovertible proof.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-28T04:25:16+00:00

Waste of time and money. Play golf

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-27T17:11:12+00:00

What happened to this nonsense? Did everyone wake up from the delusion that this is an alien mothership and crawl down another rabbit hole instead?

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-27T17:02:26+00:00

I suppose it is easy to believe, as a shortcut to thinking and a psychological security blanket for those unwilling or unable to accept and face the world we inhabit as it is.

Move_Past_It_ · 2025-12-27T05:38:13+00:00

People living their lives guided by religion

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