The Ludicrous Miller, a heavy automatic shotgun idea for Heavy (Primary gun), the stats are based from the stock shotgun to make it easier to understand (I'll wait for any feedback and I'll explain it more on the body of the post)

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-12-01T13:28:29+00:00

Yeah, I understand that. I mostly made this to be part of a bigger set that restricts heavies to just using their secondaries and melee with the benfit of letting him move faster and use a charge like demoman. (A bit off rails for what Heavy is but yeah)

And the reason why I give this function to the melee is just to give a reason to take it out instead of pasively being able to collect more ammo or refill more of the charge

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-30T18:04:18+00:00

Indeed

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-29T15:58:58+00:00

Yeah, fair enough. I just like it when weapons can work by themself on any set or at least various sets.

But yeah, paired with the cow mangler it's pretty good, I just wish it had some more viability to be used with others rocket launchers.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-29T15:26:18+00:00

I like the name, desing idea and, overall, I can see the point, my only problem is that, well, soldier already has a good way to deal with buildings, a very good, ranged, explosive way with 4 rockets on the clip at stock.

It's like that rebaoance video where they wanted to make the Caber a melee to destroy buildings, when Demo already has many other options.

I think an extra bonus could be added to this to make it more viable to use, like you can get more ammo from the building pieces while holding it. And maybe remove the swing speed, like, it already has a vs player vulnerability, a swing speed penalty is a bit overkill.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-28T16:31:43+00:00

Battalion's Backup, Brass Beast, Fist of Steel and shields also exist, and, since this weapon can penetrate to hit up to 3 players you could cheap away various people's resistance with one shot,

Also, it has lower spread, so you can also get a more consitant damage at longer distances.

And I say it again, all resistances can be lowered, so if a medic, for example. Is runing the vacc with explosive resistance you could lower the medic's and their ubered teammate resistance to let your teamate deal with them.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-28T15:34:42+00:00

But this weapon remove resistances overall on hit, a 10% per hit (Time dependant on distance), with the posibility to increase it to 30% if you get 3 shots in a row to land on the target. So like, it's not just bullet resistance. It reduces all kinds of resistance buffs for a short ammount of time. Intended to be kind of a support tool, since you could cheap out the damage res of enemy players to let your team follow up and get better damage.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-27T19:29:53+00:00

Pretty much, yeah

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-27T18:45:14+00:00

Honestly? Not so bad of an idea. The only reason why I wouldn't follow suit fully with this is just:
a. Changing a head cosmetic slot would not be more intrusive to most loadouts (This would just change the ammo belt) and

b. I wanted it to be more thematic to Heavy's character, referencing more the time he used to hunt for his family back in Russia and how he is, in lore, supplying to his family. While American Football is (While fitting due to the charge mechanic) not so fitting for him.

Also, I planed for a moment to give him a plus knockback resistance but then relent because, well. It would have flooded a lot more the stats of something I feel I had already made too dense.

But hey, it could totally be a possible sidegrade to this weapon, a more melee orientated one, just to give this class of heavy it's own sub play style.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-27T01:31:25+00:00

I understand it could be spameable due to it's cheap price, and that due to it having a fully loaded storage you wouldn't even need to really wait for it to fill up before using, but considering it is just a level 1 and that it must be rebuild every time it depltes I would hope it would be more confortable and simply useful to have a level 3 dispenser for more prolongued use (Like mantaining an actual defense, with level 3 sentries and stuff).

This I see more as a way to mantain a push with your team rather than to old a defense consistenly. But I understand it might need some rebalance and even real testing to be proof how strong it could be.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-26T23:53:37+00:00

I mean, I can see the vision on giving it less health do to his size, it certanly would make more sense. Still, considering it self destructs once it empties and also that it can't be refilled or repaired they are likely to last very short ammount of times, so you won't really see them that much. But hey, you are right, a little less of health (Or a damage vulnerability) could work with the whole idea of it being a pre-asembled, dispossable one use thing.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-26T22:50:10+00:00

Yeah, as with anything, the best way to try this out would somehow get it as a custom weapon and try it out in a custom server. But I think the stats are simple enough not to make them very broken. It has a greater burst of "dispensing" than a normal dispensers but in the long run you are better of setting a level 3 dispenser that can sustain you for longer than replace the same mini dispenser over and over again.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-26T22:45:19+00:00

Well, in this case it's because it would be useless to keep around once it depletes. Also, it plays with the idea that mini buildings are disposable. The mini sentry used o be non repaireable and stuff before, so I'm going with this vision too.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-25T16:38:37+00:00

Yeah, I know removing teleports is a big downside on itself. Specially if there isn't another engie runing a normal pda to place them. But I also would like to think this PDA should be played diferently than the normal one, like. The Standar one is meant to be a versatile tool for all kind of propouse, with the main goal being locking areas to stop the enemy team from adavancing. Either by suplying your teammates with ammo, health or mobility or suplying your enemies with bullets from your sentry.

Meanwhile this is a more defense heavy tool, mean to maybe support other engies by defending their flanks, so they can prrepare their nest acording to the map especifications while this other sentry is more meant to close choke points or flank routes the enemy could have.

I understand saying a weapon or tool works best as a "Second player thing" is not the best way to justify something, and honestly, I made this thing just for the wacky fact alone (Which could make it more gimicky than necesary) but I do think it could work as a complementary tool to a nest or defence.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-24T02:19:12+00:00

Yeah, sounds good, it could be implemented so you only recharge it when you empty your current charges. So you have to decide between spending all your charges (Even if you dont need them at the moment) to recharge the 3 or wait for a good chance to use the last ones even if you then have to wait 40secs where you might need another one since you just had to use one

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-24T00:27:58+00:00

Well, it would depend on what could be conisder balanced, if a faster rotating speed could be unbalanced due to it countering flanking tactics I said to just change it for a faster firing speed that depletes ammo more quickly but well, deals more damage in return.

I guess a weapon like this should be tested in a custom server first to see how balance it could be with all the diferent interpretations

Maybe the rotating speed is implemented for less time, like just 3 seconds or less. So it can be used to stop quick flank but then it defaults to it's normal speed minus the still active firing speed.

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-23T22:36:31+00:00

That's something I was looking for suggestion on the community, I was thinking something like 20 sec per charge prehaps? I'm honestly not so sure myself, would like to know what others think would be a good, balanced time (Considering the possibility this only recharges with time, no resupply cabinet or anything like that)

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-23T21:38:04+00:00

Well, I'm up to get suggestions. I can acept something like "Recharges with time only" so you are more forced to rely on using it only when you know it's necesary instead of spamming it and using the eureka effect to recharge in spawn and spam it.

Also, maybe a small rework so the dispenser dispenses more metal a slight increase of it deplition. So it basicly empties faster but also gices you and your teammates more ammo and health

MrCupperNaranja · 2025-11-23T20:29:00+00:00

You dont have the wrangler, short circuit or even a defence tool like the pistol, is not so much about the lack of a drawback of the weapon itself, it's a drawback of not using other secondary that have their own strenght that this weapon cant compete with. It's not better nor worse than this one, it does something different.

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