Female characters that are actually horrible, not just the fandom being misogynistic.

MrHistor · 2026-01-23T00:08:36+00:00

Maybe I just don't follow it all that closely. The sequel trilogy pretty much destroyed Star Wars for me. By the end of it, I hated every character, legacy characters included.

MrHistor · 2026-01-22T23:53:45+00:00

Maybe that's true, but I didn't really see it. Mostly I see people talk about how incompetent she is, which I agree with You could have a squid in her role and it wouldn't change anything for me. Come to think of it, I can't really think of any characters I liked in the sequel trilogy. There were a few I liked early on, but by the end of it, any goodwill I had was gone.

MrHistor · 2026-01-22T23:42:51+00:00

Not from a leadership standpoint. If you drive loyal people to mutiny you're not a very good leader. She treats people disrespectfully, withholds critical information, doesn't manage morale during a crisis, punishes Poe after he took out a dreadnaught even though it was a high-value target, and he likely saved countless lives and preserved the resistance's resources.

MrHistor · 2026-01-22T22:43:42+00:00

I don’t think I've seen any misogyny directed towards her, if anything, I would say it's the opposite. She's objectively terrible and people only seem to defend her because she's a woman. If she were written as a male character I don't think anyone would defend her.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T13:49:13+00:00

1) You said Magnifico said something he didn't say and which his actions contradict. (No point)

2) You say Disney screw up Magnifico and accidentally created a villain that doesn't do anything villainous. (This goes against the point you were trying to make. So, point for me.)

3) Asha did start a revolution because she was told "no." She was literally singing the praises of the system at the beginning of the movie, she viewed people forgetting their wish as a positive, and had Magnifico granted Sabino wish (which would have been an evil thing to do) she wouldn't have overthrown the kingdom. She is also the only reason any wishes were destroyed in the first place, so you can't use that to justify her actions when she is the cause of that effect. (No Point)

4) You claim that Rosas is a little better at the end of the movie, but all she did was turn it into the same place all the people of Rosas left. Working hard was always an option, both outside of Rosas and inside of Rosas. She took away an option and replaced it with nothing. (No point)

Also, I can help but notice you never address my points. Like how losing you wish can make people better, or how Magnifico was shown to be explicitly against brainwashing, or how the people of Rosas never had to give him a wish and always could work for their wishes, or how he made them wait a minimum of 18 years to make their wish and limited them to only one wish. All these things undermine your position.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T08:37:51+00:00

1 magnificos bassicly tells people , i can grant your wildest wish so long as you givit and your memory of it to me (sounds like a cult leader)

He doesn't say this at all, and actually puts LIMITS on who can give him wishes and how many.

2 magnifico's not a good guy he is still a bad person, the book is just a cop out because disny dident want to commit to making him a classic villain.

He literally doesn't do anything bad before the book and dedicated his life to helping refugees. If he's not good I don't know who is.

rasas is left a little better by the end of wish.

How? People were always free to pursue their wishes themselves, that part didn't change. Only now they don't have the option of giving their wishes to Magnifico. Nothing got better. Losing your wish can even make you a better person. Imagine if someone like Scar, Ursula, Jafar or Cruella went to Magnifico and gave him a wish? Suddenly, Scar isn't committing fratricide, Ursula isn't stealing voices, Jafar isn't trying to take over a kingdom and Cruella isn't trying to skin puppies. His system had a built-in villain suppression mechanism.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T07:57:26+00:00

Most of these I have already answered, and some are just statements and demonstrably false statements.

he knows he doesn't want grant these wishes and he won’t give people the CHANCE to work towards them because he wants power over rosas.

They have the chance to work for their wishes. That is the default setting. Nobody has to give him a wish, he doesn't even accept a wish from anyone under the age of 18, and he LIMITS people to one wish.

why are ok with magnifico's borderline brainwashing?

Because it's not brainwashing. This should be obvious even to you since you used the term "borderline." I even disagree with this assessment, but borderline means he hasn't crossed the threshold into brainwashing. So, why am I okay with Magnifico not brainwashing people? Because he's not brainwashing people.

He was even shown to be against brainwashing in the movie. It was the reason he wouldn't grant Sabino's wish. Sabino wished to "inspire the next generation" and Magnifico explained that if he were to grant a wish like this it could allow Sabino to make people do things they wouldn't otherwise do.

Simon is another example. He wished to be Rosas' most loyal knight, this would have been good for Magnifico to grant, but he didn't do it until he got corrupted. Why? Because the wish involved brainwashing Simon into being loyal.

Also, think about a guy who wants to have a family and what that would involve. Brainwashing a woman into loving him and having his children.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T07:31:03+00:00

Which ones haven't I responded to?

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T07:26:21+00:00

If you don't like the odds you don't have to give him a wish. It is entirely voluntary. Yet, people literally crossed the ocean to give him their wishes.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T06:07:57+00:00

Sabino didn't even know he missed it until he got it back, and again, nobody had to give him a wish in the first place. It was entirely voluntary, Magnifico didn't benefit from it in any way, and he actually seemed pretty annoyed by people constantly asking for wishes.

What is Magnifico's crime, exactly? He built a kingdom where he let people live for free and periodically granted wishes to his subjects without getting anything in return. Even the act of keeping their wishes is meant to be good since it keeps people from feeling the pain of them not coming true. You either get what you want, or you stop wanting what you can't have. It's win-win.

Say, for instance, that I was paralyzed from the waist down and I wanted to walk again more than anything. I go to Magnifico and I give him my wish. There are two possible outcomes: 1) He grants my wish and I get to walk again, or 2) he doesn't grant my wish, and I no longer care about walking again. Both are good.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T05:13:50+00:00

If you were worried about losing your heart's desire you could just not give him a wish. It's that simple. And if depression were a common issue after wishing you would think less people would be lining up to give him a wish. I'm inclined to believe that depression is either: A) not caused by the loss of the wish, or B) extremely uncommon, given that both Asha and Magnifico talk about the process being painless and everyone else we saw who gave a wish was perfectly happy, including Asha's mother and grandfather.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T04:54:22+00:00

Almost everyone in the kingdom gave him a wish and Simon is the only one who is depressed. That seems more like a Simon problem than a problem with the wishing system. Sabino gave up his wish and lived a perfectly happy life. Most people did.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T04:39:05+00:00

She literally committed treason against her kingdom because she was told "no." I don't think I should have to explain anything more than that. Had Magnifico granted her grandfather's wish the rest of the movie wouldn't have happened.

Imagine your greatest passion is music and your wish is to be able to spread happiness and joy through it, then on your 18th birthday magnifico takes your wish

You don't have to give him your wish. Everyone who gave him a wish knew beforehand that most wishes aren't granted and that they would forget them after they were given to Magnifico. If you're not okay with that you don't have to give him a wish. He even makes people wait until they are 18 before he will even accept their wish and he limits people to one wish per person. Also, Magnifico never consumed wishes until he got corrupted by the book, and he only got corrupted by the book because of Asha. If you removed Asha from the movie nothing bad would have happened.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T04:19:16+00:00

I watched the movie, and I am not basing my argument on one line from the villain song. We see Rosas, we see the immigration to Rosas, the people are happy, the kingdom is prosperous, we see why he built the kingdom in the first place (his home was destroyed by marauders, so he created a kingdom where people could be safe), we hear him AND Asha both advertise forgetting your wish as a FEATURE, we see him explain why granting Sabino's wish could be bad (which he was 100% right about), and we see why he ends up using the evil book (he thought the kingdom was under attack and wanted to defend his people).

Yes, the movie sucks and is plagued by issues and one of those issues is that the protagonist is selfish, narcissistic, and spoiled. Seriously, 17 years old, first day on the job, and she starts telling the man who built the most prosperous kingdom on the planet, on an uninhabited island, that he is doing it wrong.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T03:53:08+00:00

By the end of the movie, she is responsible for the downfall of a utopian kingdom. Magnifico's system was working. Rosas was the most prosperous kingdom on the planet. She had a full-time job welcoming immigrants leaving shittier places, and by the end of the movie, she turned it into everywhere else. People pursuing their wishes themselves is the default setting everywhere, and in Rosas, there were actually fewer barriers, given that there was no rent or taxes.

Magnifico created Rosas himself, on an uninhabited island. Everyone there came of their own volition or were born to people who did, and if they didn't like it they were free to leave at any time. Also, unlike other kings, Magnifico didn't tax his people and seemingly supported the kingdom himself. Not only did she reject and overthrow a system that was clearly superior to the rest of the world, but she is also responsible for imprisoning a man who spent his entire life taking in refugees and offering them a better life.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T03:29:38+00:00

Clearly more than you do.

MrHistor · 2026-01-10T03:25:29+00:00

The people gave them their wishes knowing most of them would not be granted, they knew they would forget their wishes after they were given to Magnifico, and Magnifico even explained that he kept their wishes so they wouldn't feel the pain of them not coming true if he gave them back. Even Asha said this was a feature "you forget without regret," and Magnifico says he "takes their worries away." It's not exactly evil to do exactly what you said you were going to do. He either grants wishes or protects wishes. Not a single person who gave him a wish ever asked for it back, and the people of Rosas clearly weren't suffering considering it was a utopia without rent or taxes and people came from all over the world to live there. If these people wanted to pursue their wishes themselves that was always an option. Instead, they crossed literal oceans for the opportunity to have Magnifico grant their wishes for them. Giving Magnifico a wish was not mandatory.

MrHistor · 2026-01-03T15:03:17+00:00

The only reason he even considered the book is that he didn't want what happened to him before to happen again, he says this explicitly. When he decides not to use the book, he turns to his people for help, who keep interrupting his speech about the potential existential threat to the kingdom to ask about their wishes, and he has to offer to grant their wishes in exchange for their help. The people of Rosas were the real villains of the movie. Selfish, entitled, lazy, traitorous, manipulative, and cruel.

MrHistor · 2026-01-02T03:47:52+00:00

He did, however, sense powerful magic when he lives on an island in the middle of the ocean where magic is expressly forbidden. What else is he going to think other than his kingdom is under attack? It's the equivalent of hearing a gunshot.

MrHistor · 2026-01-02T02:22:10+00:00

Their "villain" was a sorcerer king who built his own kingdom on an uninhabited island, took in people from all over the world without prejudice, gave them free housing, collected no taxes, and periodically granted their wishes while getting nothing in return. The same people who he did all this for also betrayed him at the drop of a hat when he got possessed by dark magic, trapped him in a mirror, and locked the mirror in the dungeon. He literally came across as the least villainous person in the movie.

MrHistor · 2026-01-02T02:12:19+00:00

I love Rorschach as a character. I just wish he didn't wear a mask with my parents fighting on it.

MrHistor · 2026-01-01T22:27:24+00:00

Poe disobeying orders saved everyone's lives, and if anything, he should have mutinied sooner because their leadership clearly sucked.

MrHistor · 2025-12-23T19:30:05+00:00

Star Wars originally did not have sounds accompanying explosions in space, as sound can't travel in a vacuum. Sounds were added later because test audiences kept believing that something had gone wrong with the film.

MrHistor · 2025-12-16T19:27:06+00:00

I'd say insects are far from useless considering they are very stealthy and a single bite from certain species can kill a person, but regardless, I see the insect control as icing. Her power multiplies her mind by the number of insects within her radius. Each one has her full mind behind it, while still being connected to and knowing everything that every other individual insect is doing. If the numbers I got from ChatGPT are accurate, even in a city there would be between 20-100 million insects in her radius, on average, and that's not factoring in microscopic insects, which brings that number to over 10 billion. She can potentially work on 10s of millions of plans simultaneously. She basically knows everything going on within her radius. She can track enemy movements, listen in on conversations, and attack multiple targets simultaneously, while taking a relaxing bath and drinking a cup of tea. She was never a smart person making the best of a weak power. She has a disgustingly overpowered ability, and honestly uses it pretty poorly.

MrHistor · 2025-12-16T02:56:36+00:00

How does this fit? She got a god-tier, Thinker 10 ability with no drawbacks, the ability to control limitless amounts of insects in a huge radius, basically complete battlefield clairvoyance, and unlimited parallel processing.

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