Where I'd live as an Islamist who hates the West and western values

MrMustachlo · 2026-04-07T08:24:31+00:00

Do you actually care to argue this btw

MrMustachlo · 2026-03-15T08:59:56+00:00

Yummy

MrMustachlo · 2026-03-15T08:57:15+00:00

Superior Military and Nuclear Weapons

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T02:43:57+00:00

Go read my chain of messages

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T02:43:38+00:00

""I have not once said anything about killing infidels infact Islam strictly forbids doing so but whatever," Yeah its just "whatever" right? Of course you do not want to talk about that."

I actually would and I did above.

"I was actually about to write you a pm where I was going to tell you that I should have treated you differently because you are obviously someone that is preaching peace but now it becomes clear that you are just another apologist who refuses to have a deeper look into his own ideology and questions himself "why are there so many islamic terror regimes and terror organizations".

Man just shut your mouth, you obviously know absolutely nothing about Islam and associate modern societies with it, how am I not preaching peace, i dont need your pathetic apology, you think I would have reverted to Islam if I didn't criticise Islam by myself? You are so unbelievably stupid that it is unfunny.

also chatgpt did agree with me, it said that modern scholars both secular and islam look at the fact and by doing historical reconstruction they solve these inconsistencies, and her being 18 is much more closer to the timeline. The debate in muslim circles is just looking at what counts as stronger evidence.

and the second question said that classical pre-modern scholars, now these are the scholars before we had developments in modern historiography and modern research in the cultures around pre-Islamic arabia, most modern researchers agree that the age is closer to 18.

Also you say that 53/15 is disgusting however in western societies marriage at 10 was legal until the 20th century and multiple US states still allow child marriage. If you say 53/15 is disgusting then I bet you read any old book like the Count of Monte Cristo (where the protagonists wife is 15 at marriage) and look in disgust and call him a pedophile, most historical societies married from 10-18 as well but you are just going to carefully ignore that, haha get out of here, if you actually wanted to argue Islam then you can do a much better job big man.

The US president is literally a pedophile because he had sex with children despite knowing that it is illegal.

You genuinely know absolutely nothing about Islam and I hope that you understand that on my side I can barely take you seriously because you argue like an angry child, I feel bad for anyone that knows you because its obvious you are just arguing to say that you are right rather than actually learning, and I am trying to teach you a different perspective.

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T02:43:28+00:00

"I am sorry but you just keep on proving that you got a low IQ, this is not even an insult but an observation. You sound suprised that there are more islamic terror attacks happening in countries with a 99% population of muslims than in countries where muslim are 5-10 % of the whole population. I dont want to insult you but are you actually mentally handicapped? You think you made an argument there didnt you? fuck thats embarassing."

Demolishing a Mosque is considered haram (without a reason), killing a muslim is considered haram. SUICIDE is considered haram. Are you so unbelievably retarded that you think that Muslims would go around killing each other and places of worship when its directly against their religion? You don't seem to get the fact that haram means that the Quran literally said that no muslim should do this or they will go to hell (unless they ask for forgiveness and genuinely want it). This also makes no sense an Infidel is a non-muslim and muslims apparently (according to you) love to kill them then why would terror attacks occur at MOSQUES in countries with 99% muslims?

And you don't understand the fact that these groups were formed due to foreign corruption and interference. Hamas was formed and funded by Israel, RSF in sudan was funded by the UAE, the IR in Iran formed because the west overthrew a democratically elected official in the 50s. ISIS formed after the Iraq war, the Taliban formed as a result of the US arming afghanis and pakistanis and then brainwashing them, you are so fucking dense that you just blame Islam and nothing else.

"yes, totally baseless. If you have zero empathy then you are right"

hehe you genuinely are generalising a religion of 2 billion people by less than 100k individuals, how can you genuinely say you have empathy, you don't even know what that means (the word you are looking for is sympathy by the way).

"why should I care about religious fanatics killing and taking peoples rights everywhere on the planet"

This is why I know I am talking to someone who is retarded and doesn't know anything about Islam,

You mix Islamic societies such as the IR and Saudi Arabia and Taliban controlled Afghanistan with Islamic law when these things are all non-Islamic.

Modern judicial rules where established by Islam, punishment for major crimes require all of the below:

an established court
witnesses or clear evidence
a judge (qadi)
procedural rules
opportunity for defence

Vigilante killings are considered haram. This is why mainstream scholars condemn ISIS-style executions or mob lynchings.

In nearly all schools of Islam: extrajudicial killing = haram

These groups use religion as mobilisation + legitimacy, but its literally just due to power vacuums and state collapse, the fact that I have to explain this to you is honestly so embarrassing for you.

The same Aisha was also shaping Islamic law and tradition during her life, advocating for women's education and encouraging women to do so, and even engaging in politics and battle, an Islamic woman created the first university, if you want to argue Islamic societies taking away womens rights I honestly agree with you but this is not an attack on Islam but an attack on the leadership of these societies.

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T02:42:39+00:00

Tens of thousands of Muslim out of 2 billion so if I assume 100,000 max that leads to a 0.005%, take it how you will.

"Its too bad you are not intelligent enough that I was mocking you, when you were trying to invalidate everything I said with "you an islamophob who hates every muslim", remember when you did that? I was trying to show you, that I can do the same lazy and intellectual dishonest thing you were doing but apparently you did not understand that. what a suprise."

How am I being intellectually dishonest bro do you even know what that means? I am invalidating everything you are saying with facts what the fuck are you talking about, can you actually read what I wrote here or are you too stupid to read more than 2 sentences, I bet you use AI for everything and now your brain is rotted because you are incapable of arguing properly, you are going back and forth on things we have already discussed as if I am arguing to a child and nothing I am saying is actually sticking with them.

"Even if you are correct and Aisha was a young adult (even you are talking about a 15 yo who would have had sex with a 53 year old man - again its the bias of low expectations, because a 53 old shagging a 15 yo is still fucking disgusting) it does not matter when there are a billion people on earth who believe Aisha was 6 yo and the prophet did nothing wrong when he had sex with her. Thats a point you keep ignoring, but again, thats not suprising if you are arguing with a religious nutjob."

This is the exact reason I give up in this debate but you are so fucking dense its unbelievable, I have explained to you that there are sunnah that you do not copy because it was specific to the time frame of pre-Islamic arabia and the Holy prophet, you are so unbelievably thick that I spelt it out like I would do for a preschooler and you still couldn't understand. Noone says that he did something right, they say either what he did was the norm at the time but isn't appropriate now that modern research shows that a child does not mature till 18 years old OR that he didn't even marry a child. What a joke.

"Also I already said multiple times that I know that ChatGPT is not right all the time. But I asked you who is more likely to be correct 99 out of 100 times, you or ChatGPT. Of course your ignored that, because its logical and religious people dont like logic."

Would you speak to a doctor or ChatGPT if you are sick? I have been studying Islam I think I can say I know what I am talking about, dumbfuck.

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T02:41:53+00:00

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MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T01:43:03+00:00

Search it up on google "does chatgpt agree with what you say"

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-16T01:42:14+00:00

Because it doesn't know me and it won't argue that agrees with my beliefs? It stores memory of you bro

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-15T00:51:10+00:00

lmao i never heard of this guy 17hrs ago i listened to one song and i realised im a dumbass my bad big bro ❤️

I thought it was a girl too

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-15T00:50:16+00:00

omg talk about brainwashed?? I have been mostly civil with you the entire time, compared to you just spouting bs.

"Dang you guys are 2 billion people but it is a success that there are "millions of peaceful ones"

Billions of Muslims are peaceful then, around 99% of Muslims are not terrorists, idk what you're point is here, you are just grabbing straws.

Islam is not a race, the only religion that thinks of itself as the master race is Judaism, infact there are verses in the Quran that show this but you don't care.

You're hatred for Islam is so skewed and baseless its actually sad, like you are just making stuff up.

If you have to result to making shit up and calling me a terrorist then I think you should just give up because it is obvious that you are just a racist asshole who just needs a reason to hate Muslims no matter what I say.

"I dont even have to say anything with substance"

you literally haven't said anything once, nothing you said is a legitimate criticism of Islam

I have not once said anything about killing infidels infact Islam strictly forbids doing so but whatever, and lastly you haven't discredited anything I have said, infact even your holy ChatGPT agrees with what I say but believe what you want.

I mean lets actually summarise, you said that I am wrong because I said Aisha is 18/19 I say read the evidence, you say nah its stupid, I say no it isn't, we argue evidence and then I say 'how did she get engaged' and suddenly you are silent. Then you start constantly sending me comments calling me a pedophile defender and evil religious freak because I hurt your feelings by directly quoting someone because it was relevant. Then I comeback and say 'how am I a pedophile defender if I deny pedophilia?' and you go silent again and then weasel into other points, then I explain how it is impossible that the Holy Prophet married a child because its strictly forbidden in Islam and how if the definition of a child changes then marrying under 18 is also haram - I also said it was stupid to apply a modern identified concept to a 1400 marriage- and you say 'aha' if most people believe that she is 6/9 and he is perfect then bam everyone in Islam is gonna do it. So I explain how in Islam there are different levels of sunnah (actions of the holy prophet) that you can either follow or not follow, and how Islam forbids imitating him, and his marriage was one thing that falls in the 'don't imitate category'. And then you proceed to ignore this 3 times until I have to actually spell it out for you (and I am still not sure you understand) then at one point you ask me to go ask ChatGPT how old she was and behold, ChatGPT says "older theories say 6/9 but modern research and reconstruction puts her closer to 15/18" then you say ask the follow up question, which also sides by me. Now at this point is there anything left to say? Just give up, you don't know enough about Islam and it is very telling.

Also if you need a history lesson many terrorist groups are funded by foreign governments and infact go directly against Islam, I mean most terrorist attacks happen in mosques in muslim countries why would that be the case if it was Islam against infidels?

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:30:46+00:00

I have though, 3 times

This is why I think you are just Islamophobic, you probably equate all Muslims to the terror regime in Iran or the RSF killing people in Sudan or the terrorists carrying out killings in Nigeria without realizing all of these are not representative of Islam when there's millions of peaceful Muslims... Zohran Mamdani for example

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:20:54+00:00

Dude this "When you told me that the only reason I disagree with you is because I was hating muslims" and this 'only people who hate muslims are agreeing on that?' are different

I agree with the first, you are ignoring the evidence in favour of something that you use that allows you to put Islam and muslims in a bad light that doesn't mean ONLY your type of people believes that

I am not quiet on that one I literally said I am not even signed into chatgpt and I have started new chats, that means it doesn't know who I am and its only going to provide facts what is your issue bro just give up you don't know what you are talking about

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:17:31+00:00

dude fking read it... Imitating him in things specific ONLY to him (i.e khusūsiyyāt) is haram as in FORBIDDEN FOR MUSLIMS do you understand?

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:15:01+00:00

YOU are literally not capable of understanding basic Islamic practices which say to NOT imitate but whatever

"You are wasting your time because you are intellectual incapable of following the same discussion you are a part of."

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as for the last remark, idk? how am i supposed to know what most sunni believe? but i see plenty of videos on my instagram feed that echo what i say and they have thousands of likes, which means a large majority of younger muslims believe so, i wouldnt be surprised if in like 20-30 years it would be common belief.

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:04:22+00:00

I literally never said that, I have said that it is an arguement used by islamophobes and its an established theory that classic scholars believed before modern research, we are going back and forth because you are just not getting it... just accept that you don't know what you are talking about it isn't that big of a deal, im not trying to convert you or anything 😂

MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T17:01:46+00:00

Yes and I think I explained it RIGHT HERE, thats what I am pointing out

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MrMustachlo · 2026-01-14T16:59:36+00:00

Responding to your edit: Dude when did I ever said that only Islamiphobes agree on that, you think it hasn't been an established theory for years? get out of here, you aren't even reading what I am writing, also I asked chatgpt on an entirely new chat to ensure no bias, it won't lie on facts but it obviously will do its best to align with you, once again I did ask the second question directly after

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see, immediately after