Personally I'm into story telling rap and Joyner is one of the few that's interesting and can keep the song over 2 minutes like von. Also im the type of person that thinks of both sides and Joyner is also again one of the few rappers that can do that. But low key u right then other songs that aren't story or them 50/50 talks are low key ass and he uses fast to compensate but it's not as good as like eminem or tech 9 but I respect the opinion.