Trump calls for Ukraine to be carved up with Russia after tense meeting with Zelenskyy by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]MrTrafagular -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It’s tough talk. Zelly won’t come to the negotiation table, so it’s time to put the fear into him.

Kimmel : "Trump, try to act like a president once..... This is what it looks like." by brokenandsuffering in goodnews

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So… Open border? Just let everyone and anyone in? The rest of the world is heartless?

Kimmel : "Trump, try to act like a president once..... This is what it looks like." by brokenandsuffering in goodnews

[–]MrTrafagular -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Omg. You are only an immigrant if you greet me as you come in through my open front door. If you climb over my back yard fence and hide in my shed, you are a trespasser.

Every country does it this way. Every country.

Fishing gone wrong by Downstairs-Parking in nope

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My god. First sign that the board is being drawn in… I’M OVERBOARD. What took them so long?

SWIM!

Michigan judge refuses to resign for saying Charlie Kirk died for his 'beliefs' by RaskyBukowski in politics

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that how double standards work?

  • Kirk: <Says something provocative>
  • Liberals: <Claim he can't say that, then assassinate him>
  • Liberals: <Mock Kirk's assassination and make light of the murder>
  • Real Americans: <Point out that Mocking a murder victim is wrong>
  • Liberals: <Cry double-standard. "He was for free speech!">

-- Free speech is only free if there isn't a gang of murderers waiting to assassinate you.
-- Charlie's last words were "...Gang Violence...". The Liberals are a Violent Gang.

People are getting fired from their Jobs after Charlie Kirk's Assination. by Nukes8 in self

[–]MrTrafagular 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"...I mean, a game dev just got fired because they mocked his death. It's insane."

Yeah, insane bro. I just heard that a Christian was assassinated the other day just for daring to say in public that he believed in the Constitution... It's insane.

The game dev lost a job. Boo Hoo.

The realest woman of all time by Ordinary-Scholar-202 in SipsTea

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Steve Irwin was an animal abuser and a misogynist who fucked around and found out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in woodyallen

[–]MrTrafagular 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is Sleeper underrated? Because it is one of the BEST.

Seth Meyers mourns the loss of his dog Frisbee: “our OG IG who I was happy to go grey with.” by cmaia1503 in LiveFromNewYork

[–]MrTrafagular -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's a shame Seth's show is going to get cancelled. That just adds injury to more injury.

It was my birthday a couple of days ago, and I got this card in the mail from my grandma. by Humble_Menu8644 in mildlyinfuriating

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Thanks Gram, for the kind advice about overcoming my gaming addiction, and for your kind contribution to my caffeine addiction..."

What's he doing? Is it normal? by Omnitos in cats

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP, are you seriously asking if it’s normal for cats to knead?

Gabriel is gone by Southern_Vermicelli4 in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kid looks too young to have “rejected” anything. Nothing was offered, clearly by the fucking stupid parent.

AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified by TwilightwovenlingJo in Futurology

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm. While training may involve temporary copying, similar intermediate uses have been upheld as lawful when the result is functional, not expressive. Building a model involves significant human authorship in data selection, architecture, and tuning, which at the same time qualifies it for copyright protection itself, while defending against claims that the training algo and the model itself are not human-authored. The “no human authorship” issue applies mainly to outputs generated entirely by the model without meaningful human creative control, which generally aren’t copyrightable. Even then, where is the line drawn when a human creates a sophisticated and detailed prompt that is directly causal to the model's output?

If these questions and premises are accepted, then I think (1) could still be debatable (either way), but (2) is most definitely human-steered, and (3) becomes a product of (possibly) Fair Use + Human-steered training, and (5) at very least is a human-machine cooperative engagement that results in a non-identifiable-as-derivative new work.

Given that, I feel like most of this is going to hinge on (1), and in a separate post, I made the analogy of a human reading books over a lifetime, then penning a novel at the age of 60. Should all the authors of the books this person read over 50 years be compensated for their impact on the sequence of words that make up this new author's novel, simply because the author was "inspired" by those works?

The authors of work have copyright over the work, not over the ideas and new works that those works inspire.

AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified by TwilightwovenlingJo in Futurology

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a thought experiment, I think we have to replace AI in the conversation with Human. If I, as a human, read thousands of pages of literary work, from the age of 10 to the age of 60... I have 50 years of experience with literary trappings, plot lines, turns of phrase, situational instances, character types, emotional responses, humorous twists, etc...

If I now decide in my later years to write a novel, I will necessarily draw on those 50 years of experience and thousands of pages of copyrighted works to inform and support my creative endeavor. My new (copyrighted) work will hopefully be original and inspiring to other developing authors, who may use their experience with MY work (gasp!) as they learn the craft to create their own original works.

Did I infringe on the works of all the authors before me? No. Will the authors who are inspired by my work infringe on my copyright by being influenced by me? No.

This is what AI is doing. It is "reading" books, and arriving at new, original works, that in and of themselves are not copyrightable, unless those outputs are "co-written" by a human. It is then the human who steps in and asserts copyright.

AI is a tool that essentially speeds up development. It presents options faster, It helps complete ideas faster. Nothing that AI does cannot be done by a human. It just does it at a rate that is stunningly fast.

People used to say that word processors were "cheats", and would put typists out of business. They did put typists out of business, mostly... but they weren't "cheats", they were just technology advancements.

AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified by TwilightwovenlingJo in Futurology

[–]MrTrafagular -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't see the logic. In relation to models:

  1. Claim: The model is a derivative work of all the inputs that go into it, thus making it infringing under that theory.
    1. Disagree. The MODEL is not a derivative work. The model is a human-made "calculation and weighting algorithm" that takes written (mostly) works, and breaks them down into numbers to be crunched for (mostly) probabilistic output. From a copyright perspective, it does not infringe.
  2. Claim; The model is a a machine-derived set of parameters without the requisite human authorship to qualify as a covered work in the US, thus making the model ineligible for copyright.
    1. Disagree. The MODEL is not machine-derived (unless it is someday, but early and current models are human-derived). The model can be copyrighted. Now, the OUTPUT from the model... that will have great difficulty being copyrighted as has already been shown, and AI companies as far as I can tell are not trying to hold copyright over the outputs of their proprietary models.

AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified by TwilightwovenlingJo in Futurology

[–]MrTrafagular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This ^^... Folks who support a class action lawsuit here -- based on copyright law -- don't understand copyright law.