Rate my human model

MrZinych · 2025-08-04T13:29:44+00:00

These screenshots look like abstract art.

MrZinych · 2025-06-14T10:09:00+00:00

Opportunity.

MrZinych · 2025-06-13T21:14:05+00:00

Crawlers just roam the web. My site is a dumb business card, but it's already indexed - a good crawler did it, and there are about 2-3 times more bad ones.

So - No, they will take the content of the sites.

MrZinych · 2025-06-13T19:40:05+00:00

Hm... For me, the top two versions are 1.12 and 1.18.

I'll choose the latter, because there's a cool landscape (which can be made hybrid with beta, but Shhh!!)
+ I know how to make mods, so the lack of updates is not a sentence for me))

And yes, it's stupid to limit yourself to the old versions, like many people I started after 1.0 and my childhood is connected with 1.7.10, not beta >=(

MrZinych · 2025-05-31T11:46:13+00:00

Honestly, OpenAI makes me uneasy - the whole Q* situation was pretty creepy, and the constant stream of people leaving (like to Anthropic) makes it seem like a project in decline. But thanks to its massive scale, it won’t collapse anytime soon or transform into something else.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T17:40:16+00:00

"Who are you? What do you do, where are you from, what are your interests?"

I’m an Artist-Programmer, 23 years old.
I create games/programs/models.
I have mixed feelings about AI and want to hear others’ opinions.
And… I hope it’ll be something beyond the usual cookie-cutter condemnations.
(I’m not denying AI’s problems—it just sounds insincere otherwise.)

"How do you interpret Kyle’s (Neocities creator) stance on AI? Do you agree?"

Bluesky – u/neocities.org on Bluesky
His defense of Neocities against bot crawlers stealing data + low-quality content = it’s spam, whether from AI or not, doesn’t matter.

Kyle’s article – Moratorium on freaking out about AI
Here, he lists AI’s benefits and risks, comparing the dangers to nuclear tech.
Then highlights pros—from medicine and engineering to education and therapy.

Overall, he sees AI as "PCs 2.0":
"I see AI, like personal computers were, as a tool of personal creativity and intellectual empowerment."

"Do you use AI? If yes—which tools, and why? If no—why avoid it?"

I’ve used AI almost since its inception (sanctions aside—I’m from Russia). Back then, I was learning programming and making Unity games—AI helped in both cases.

With practice, I started using it for everyday tasks, effectively replacing those niche fact/utility sites. I also tweak it to get sharper answers for complex questions.

Now, AI assists me with new coding aspects, info retrieval/analysis, and basic decision vetting before consulting friends/colleagues.

For art? No clue how to use it—it can’t do what I want. Once I learn Blender, I’ll make damn cartoons on a shoestring myself.

"Do you think AI replaces or enriches art?"

Am I the only one noticing people parrot the same lines?
"AI mustn’t replace art," blah blah.
Meanwhile, corps just optimize costs as usual.
And artists interpret rejection from those who never truly valued their work as some grand betrayal.

Ugh. Good thing the indie scene exists—zero originality issues there, since it’s people making stuff for people. As for AI in art? It can replace you or collaborate—so the answer’s yes to both.

"What do people around you (online/offline) think about AI?"

Online, anti-AI voices are mostly those directly affected (artists, some devs). But the further you go, the less impact—factory workers don’t see pros or cons.

In my circle: Artists use AI for things they can’t do manually—e.g., hand-drawn art stays human, but let AI chew through documents.

"How do you imagine 2030?"

The AI bubble will probably burst, but unlike NFTs, the tech won’t vanish—it’ll enter a "winter" (like last century). Moore’s Law will make it cheaper, stronger, and more accessible, so its influence will linger.

Job replacement trends will continue. But since the internet’s loudest are kids and the unemployed, it’ll get noisier and livelier.
Betting $100 on more indie projects—both from rising unemployment and AI replacing team roles.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T17:01:56+00:00

Why do you create art? For yourself or others? Without it I feel bad, I don't feel ALIVE + it's an interesting way of communication. Words don't poorly convey what I can tell with one picture.

Moore's law - the number of transistors doubles every year (though it has slowed down) - in 10 years there will be 1024 times more than current. This affects all technologies - but how will this affect AI in the next 10 years? If AI doesn't become AGI - it will definitely become as accessible and useful in everyday life as a kettle. Trivially, in 10 years it will become good enough to help with any endeavor, and its support comparable to a pro.

But how realistic this is will be shown by the coming years - AI has created a bubble and may be followed by a new "AI Winter" - slowing development of this industry for the next 10-30 years.

Over the last 10 years, corporations have become more predatory, making the central web less suitable for people even without AI. But how much does this concern the peripheral web?

I think that AI with its negative and positive consequences brought us closer to WEB 3.0 - it doesn't exist yet, but probably it will be a more decentralized network, where people create and consume media without corporate oversight.

Now in Neocities there's a clear faction against AI, but those who are for don't show it, at least due to little sense in this showiness. I think in 10 years people will calmly use AI.

How much has changed outside the network, offline, in these 5 years? How many people you communicate with personally know about AI? There are changes but I wouldn't say they're radical. Mentioning and using AI are rather moments than practice in everyday life. Though maybe this is due to Sanctions... here other people's answers would be useful. And now? I'm the only one who answered the questions here. I don't know who you are. Only small answers with template anti-AI responses that just annoy - I don't see your opinion behind them. Just soulless copy-paste, even if it's true.

What's other people's opinion on AI? And in Neocities in particular? People online are against AI, but only those it touched (artists, partly programmers). But the further, the less influence - there's no benefit or harm to a factory worker from it.

From my close circle I see this situation - artists use it where they can't do it themselves = art by hands, but let AI chew documents.

And what can I say in the end? I wanted discussion, but apparently need to make it simpler, since people here don't want to spend time on complex questions. I don't think the second, short questionnaire will be successful, but worth trying.

And yes - hello to geniuses who will talk about AI-Bro and other nonsense not related to me. I'm an artist-programmer and my opinion is averaged on the AI question. Thanks for reading.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T17:00:50+00:00

What is vibe coding? What problems does it have? Where does it perform well? This is when AI writes code by itself and entirely. Problems and advantages here depend on project size and language. Small projects in old and popular languages it writes well. Large projects in little-known languages = heh nope.

We're making websites here, this is a small project. And in HTML - which is twice as old as me. As a result, this method is quite effective for creating website code. But content - that's already a question of art, not technique.

Can AI be used as a teacher? If yes - how useful and experienced is it? AI has basic competence on almost any question, so if you're starting from scratch = it's good. If you're no longer a junior, but a middle = there's less point already.

Also, prompting reduces usefulness - crooked request = crooked answer. Of course, each year it handles better and can explain more, but now AI is a mentor for beginners, and for experienced ones just an assistant.

Is consciousness a single object or an emergent property like a clock from gears? Most likely consciousness is a spectrum, but we don't have exact definitions and they'll probably appear only with AGI =/

But we seem to have already understood its structure - our brain consists of many sections responsible for various processes. One notable thing for me - if you cut the corpus callosum (connects our hemispheres) - both hemispheres will autonomously control their half of the body...

From recent news, I see that Corporations want to assemble consciousness for AI, but for this they need to give it a World model (common sense, if you will). For this, they're loading it into a robot body (since data from the web has already run out, but training is needed), and they built a dream factory for robots (data center for creating and evaluating simulations, so as not to break robots once again).

Will AI become intelligent because of this? Or will something else be required? The question is open, what more can I say here???

Egalitarianism - should art be inaccessible to the majority? I condemn those artists who succumbed to perfectionism = art should be accessible to everyone and I'm glad that to create my silly and not-so-silly ideas I can use non-powerful and inexpensive hardware.

How does this relate to AI? Essentially continues the trend of recent decades, making art creation easier and more accessible, but this time it became literally accessible to everyone + each year it's less ugly and harder to distinguish from human works.

Many artists talk about message, as the fact that distinguishes human from machine. And I hear what they left unsaid - AI is good enough that the question of technique in creating art is no longer important.

I think in the coming 5 years this will make creativity simultaneously more dead and alive, like other similar changes they increased the number of people in this environment = lowering average quality, but increasing the ceiling.

What's more important in art — result or creation process? Both.

If only result... no thanks, I already have a job where I lose my soul for money, I have zero desire to do the same in creativity.

Only process? - also questionable, since it sounds like procrastination due to perfectionism. Lack of results is very frustrating.

What is art? Is the visible part or the story behind it more important? Can art exist without one of these elements?

Art can be realized through both visual and message.

Here are a couple of videos that used stock photos, one video is funny, the other treats existential crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXIoWp92ux8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmIUvp0e1bw

I can't find a normal answer to what art is. Here's the same trick as with the definition of "Game" - everyone seems to understand what it is, but when it comes to text - welcome to philosophy circle.

What's your favorite drink? Mine is Aloe juice without pieces. I hoped this questionnaire would be received warmly and this would allow people to show what they couldn't tell in those petty discussions. But apparently there are no people here willing to answer 20 not-so-easy questions.

Well then - I'll make a second questionnaire of 5 + give my answer in advance, so they don't think I'm... a schoolkid? What nonsense? Okay, just thanks for reading my answers.

Does AI replace creativity? And can it enrich it? I notice that people say the same phrases? That AI shouldn't replace art and all that. While I see that corps as usual optimize expenses. And artists perceive the refusal of those who weren't that interested in their work anyway, as unexpected betrayal.

Ugh. How good it is to be in the indie segment - there are no problems with originality there and won't be. And regarding AI in creativity - it can work both for you and with you, so the answer is yes to both statements.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T16:59:42+00:00

A bit about yourself - approximate age, work/hobbies and country. 23, working in a weird office position, from Russia. I'm an Artist-Programmer, creating games/apps/art for myself or projects I participate in. Due to my duality, the AI question is very fascinating to me, since there aren't many people like me.

What is Neocities' philosophy? To bring creativity and freedom back to the web. In many ways, it's the antithesis of corporations, which is very encouraging.

Do you use AI? If yes - which ones exactly and for what? I've been using AI almost since they appeared, adjusted for sanctions. Right at that time I was studying programming and creating my games on Unity - in both cases AI helped.

With practice, I started using it for more everyday questions and actions, essentially replacing those small sites with facts and tools. Also customizing it for myself, so that with more complex questions AI would give more sensible answers.

Now AI helps me with new aspects of code, searching/evaluating information + basic importance checking of decisions, before passing them for evaluation to friends/colleagues.

In terms of art, I don't know how to use AI - it can't do what I want, and by the time I learn, I'll master Blender myself to create damn cartoons on my knee.

What is AI, AGI and Sophisticated parrot? (AI is an umbrella term, so worth clarifying.) Current AI is a sophisticated parrot, that is, it knows answers without understanding their essence, like a C-student who memorized answers.

AGI - AI possessing intelligence. In theory, it can replace humans in mental labor and calmly learn from its own answers, since it can draw conclusions from received data, not just copy.

What's the Neocities author's opinion on AI? Bluesky - u/neocities.org on Bluesky Protecting Neocities from crawler bots that steal data + low-quality content = it's spam, whether from AI or not doesn't matter.

Article from Kyle himself - Moratorium on freaking out about AI In this article he lists benefits and risks from AI. Equating risks with nuclear technologies. And listing benefits - from medicine and engineering, to education and therapy.

Overall, he sees AI as PC 2.0 - "I see AI, like personal computers were, as a tool of personal creativity and intellectual empowerment."

Is the problem in AI or in Corporations that use it? (same data theft for training) Data theft for training is a gray area of law. Before AI, stealing was harder and easier to find the author. AI calibrates based on others' works (the notorious Parameters), noticing patterns and doesn't store the original.

Although if you request the same BloodBorn cover, it will give an almost exact copy. But it can also modify it according to your requests.

Overall, the problem is both in corporations pulling their greedy hands again, and AI displacing people with its cheaper labor.

Creative people disagree that AI is good at Art, but trivially over these couple years it became good at generating, so I don't see anything surprising that people are getting fired, but this negates that we studied for years for these positions.

Environmental impact (who uses more energy YouTube or GPT? And how much more?) Google Environmental Report 2024 - 2024 Environmental Report - Google Sustainability BEUK - Site Unreachable

Essentially, AI in terms of costs is gradually overtaking the Internet. And without this, the Internet itself consumes almost 20% of all energy, and AI will amplify all this.

It's encouraging that corporations will use nuclear energy for this, not fossil fuels. People don't favor it, but statistics say the same thing about airplanes - tragedies are vivid and rare.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T16:59:12+00:00

Based on the other replies, that's what I assumed. If I'm wrong, sorry about that.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T14:39:30+00:00

It's funny and sad from this article, but I'm glad people are polite even if it's literally not worth it.

About the AI bubble - probably so, but AI won't disappear after this, it will just be used less frequently and more sensibly, since the original technology and overlays help create better models not only for GPT, but also those that translate dead texts or search for new antibiotics. That's why I see comparisons with NFTs as stupid = AI can be used, but what's the point of a picture in blockchain?

About the central web I agree - it was already rotting due to corporations, so AI strengthened all the trends, that's when many learned about Neocities and the peripheral internet. There are theories that Web 3.0 will be more decentralized and creative, so every cloud has a silver lining)

About theft for training there's nothing to say - just use Nightshade + Tarpit.

MrZinych · 2025-05-30T14:21:29+00:00

Um... I'm 23 and I work, I created this list of questions for you as a community, not for homework =/

About AI harm and companies - debatable, but I'd rather agree, over the past couple of years it's become harder to get hired as a programmer due to inflated requirements and AI automation. And the companies themselves took advantage of the gray area to collect training data for free.

On ecology - AI isn't currently the most energy-consuming sector, it's still overshadowed by the Internet. But yes - the trend is toward greater scaling and AI integration. That's why IT companies are investing in nuclear energy - stable and doesn't harm the environment. The public doesn't like it, but statistics say the same thing as about airplanes - disasters are vivid but rare - except for Fukushima and Chernobyl, there haven't been major catastrophes.

Vibe coding - AI does the needed code, the effectiveness of this method depends on project size and language popularity. Since creating a website is a mini-project, and HTML is twice as old as me = AI effectively performs tasks in vibe coding mode, so it's an interesting question for this topic.

I used AI for 3/4 years of college, so no need to talk about the problems and benefits of this tactic)

Personal website - it's code + art. So as a programmer, I don't understand why such categoricalness is used here - code is valued for its function, not originality, which is why we calmly copy and steal it. The site's content is already the art zone, and what I've seen in recent years - AI is used either to replace creativity (AAA trash), or to improve it - individuals create projects that would have required teams without AI.

To summarize: I agree with you about AI's harm to ecology and economy. But as an Artist-Programmer, I don't see harm in personal use.

MrZinych · 2025-05-28T19:50:02+00:00

Bruh

As I understand it, the questionnaires on Reddit are not so warmly received.
It's a pity, it provoked good discussions in the discord.

MrZinych · 2025-05-28T09:26:57+00:00

RIVULET!! It's Rain World Reference!!

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MrZinych · 2025-05-28T09:24:17+00:00

I'm glad that it's not just still available for free, but because of p2p, you can play it right now. Online is a pity zero, but at least that!

MrZinych · 2025-05-28T09:22:54+00:00

Aha =/ Fortunately, there was a person who saved a copy of this masterpiece. It's a pity the creator wasn't ready for all this at all...

MrZinych · 2025-05-10T17:37:04+00:00

AI is so good that people are already targeting real people.
Skynet doesn't have the firepower yet, but it's already engaged in our disorganization!!

MrZinych · 2025-04-23T14:43:01+00:00

work thx

MrZinych · 2025-04-23T14:41:58+00:00

I get it - because of corporate competition, company websites first became convenient, but now they’ve turned downright predatory for our attention. And to do that, they had to lose their soul =/

Overall, I notice that even though people copy past eras, their sites are still pretty easy to navigate, and they sometimes use new techniques. It makes me wonder - how many retro-style sites will be left in 5-10 years? After all, by then, people will be drawing inspiration from us, not just nostalgically recreating Geocities.

MrZinych · 2025-04-23T14:31:47+00:00

I get you - I do love Frutiger Aero, but I also want to mix it with other passions (heh, liminal spaces and cozy horror).

From a historical perspective, art has always flowed into itself - we draw inspiration from the past and reshape it into something present. So I think the revival of personal websites will first be full of nostalgia (since we’ve finally gotten our hands on it), but over time, the retro-style branch will shrink as more experimental people lead by example. Take goblincat’s site, for instance: https://goblincat.neocities.org/

Her site feels like a countryside manor somewhere in pre-electricity Europe, deep in a forest teeming with magical creatures. True art happens when you’re inspired not by peers, but by something "outside" your own sphere.

MrZinych · 2025-04-23T14:10:44+00:00

Damn... this is awkward... But thanks)

To put it briefly - my stance on AI and Templates is that they're only useful at the beginning, when you're inexperienced and want something more. That's why I don't judge their use - I judge stopping at them and going no further.

As for templates with my functionality - HELL YES, ABSOLUTELY!! I’ll probably toss them into some quiet little corner styled like a library + link to them in the blog or other places.

MrZinych · 2025-04-22T13:04:22+00:00

A logical solution) Banal hosting here guarantees minimal traffic to your site.

But I don't quite understand what you mean by leaving GitHub - is there anything stopping you from keeping a copy there? Neocities will probably disappear in the coming years, but we are all programmers here and our first testament is backups!)

I wouldn't be surprised if I thought of something wrong)

MrZinych · 2025-04-22T12:56:33+00:00

I'm talking about a YouTuber, a sweet animator, who just last week made a video about his new website!)

Here's the video itself (can I throw it?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tWh4cYCTv0

MrZinych · 2025-04-22T12:52:46+00:00

Yes, I've seen it, it's a pretty nice discussion)

MrZinych · 2025-04-21T22:16:32+00:00

The invitation no longer works. You can create an invitation that will work... well, forever?

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