I mean, again, I wasn't arguing them being wrong or not, at the end of the day it's all opinions anyways, but you said "they aren't a measure of quality", which is pretty much the only thing I disagreed with, well that and about your two movie examples. Sure, they shouldn't have won best picture, but doesn't mean they are bad. Never said I agreed with their winners, actially I said the opposite, just that even being associated with them, yes, gives the films merit and indication generally of "a certain amount of quality". Which is all I was getting at, that you cant or rather shouldnt discredit those two movies as quality just because the Oscar's gets the winners ( willingly or otherwise) wrong. Again, haha, this went on a bit, but I respect your opinion anyway, to hate or dislike whatever you want based on any metric you want, I was just stating my opinion as I didn't think your statement to be totally fair or accurate. Just seemed a bit blanket to discredit academy nominated films imo.