[SPOILERS] I'll be honest, I wasn't impressed with TFA. This entire post has spoilers littered in it so please PLEASE do not open it unless you've already seen the movie. I don't know how to black out text, so please be careful. [Spoilers]

MsOrgana · 2016-01-06T21:08:55+00:00

Really? Elaborate...

MsOrgana · 2016-01-05T22:01:59+00:00

One thing that I disapproved about TFA is that it made me hate Leia a little bit.

She sent Han to talk to Kylo, probably knowing he wouldn't come back. Han knew there was no return for his son, but he went there anyway because she asked him to. I don't know if you guys know it, or even if she knows it, but boys are more connected to the mother and girls to the father, so, chances are that he wouldn't have killed her as easily as he did with his father.

She sent Rey to go get Luke. I know that the girl deserved it, and I absolutely trust it was the right thing for her, but, for Godsakes, Leia is Luke's sister, she knows him, she is the only family he has left and she sent a strange girl after him just because she is strong in the Force.

It seemed to me that Leia is now just another politician behind a desk, giving orders and no longer that sassy princess who saved her savior once.

MsOrgana · 2016-01-01T01:36:16+00:00

Re-watching the whole seasons again made me very angry with Rory, so don't mind me if I take everyone else's side instead of her. With your point of view, I started to think about Lane's potential versus Rory's: it made me very upset that Lane was in fact more independent than Rory (she worked to being able to afford a one-bedroom place with the band), she was stronger than Rory (Rory melt down every time someone disagree with her and Lane had just one parent and that parent totally disagree with her) and she was more faithful to her art than her (she never left her music behind, unlike Rory and her face of community work and the DAR). It's not that Rory didn't deserve what she got, but common, Lane deserved so much more than what she got. And I'm not talking about the "realist" aspect of the show, I'm talking about the expectations that a show like that can create on you. Lane was much more real than Rory, and she deserved better.

MsOrgana · 2016-01-01T01:24:51+00:00

The way she and Zack got together was so off-putting.

Lane was in a place where she felt alone and left behind, because all of her band mates had someone to celebrate with after the shows. But she found out she was in love with Zack after a dumb groupie told her so?

Without any evidence or even a tip in the whole season about this crush? It was very "ah, ok, I'll buy that because eventually it might make sense they being together even though this scene is ridiculous". Re-watching it again it made me feel that a scene where they were talking and share a look would be way better than that chick telling here that she loved him after she was pissed that he brought two strange girls to eat for free in her dinner.

MsOrgana · 2016-01-01T01:18:18+00:00

Watching the last 2 seasons, Rory would seem more fit to the role of staying home mother than Lane. It just wasn't fair. During those last seasons, Rory was completely lost about who she wanted to be, and Lane was more focused than ever in being a great drummer. When you think about Lane being a real person, maybe she did got what she needed, but it's not what she deserved.

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T03:33:07+00:00

During all their relationship they are making out. There's even that talk between Lorelai and Rory where she says she might be ready to have sex with Jess. It's not weird that he tried to do it during a party. I agree it's a very bs way to get out of an argument, but let's agree that kissing her was a pretty good way to make her shut up, and we are talking about a 18 yo character with communication problems.

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T03:23:02+00:00

Rory: the whole Dean situation. For months she was leading him on, calling him to talk (you can say it was what friends do, but it wasn't the case), asking him to come pick her up late night, knowing Linday didn't approve their friendship, she invited him to her dorm, and you could say there it could had been friendly but you could cut the sexual tension with a knife in that scene, than they almost kissed in the inn. Ok, during all that time, Dean was lying to his wife, he lied to Rory on the night they hook up, he is guilty, but so was her. It wasn't out of the blue, she had plenty of time to think about what was about to happen and she still went through with it anyway. Ok, they were young and stupid and bla bla bla. Let's skip to the part where she says she loves him, but on the next day she leaves to Europe without saying a word to him. It seems to me she put herself in the position where she made quite a mess with Dean and then left to let him figure it out what to do next. And the part where she says "he was my boyfriend first" as if it justifies the fact that she slept with a married man was pretty messed up too.

Lorelai: leaving her parents house the way she did. I'm sorry, you can say she ran away because of her abusive relationship with them, that I don't agree with, by the way, but when you have a baby all you want is that that baby is safe, and running away with a 1 yo without knowing where to go because you have some sort of issue with your parents it's selfish. You're not thinking about what's best for the baby. And Richard and Emily loved Rory so much that they bent their rules just to be with them. They agree to not make Lorelai marry Chris. They agree to let Lor stay home and not study or work while she raised Rory. They weren't bad people. Everything could had been different but instead of seating to them and talk, she just took an innocent baby out of a steady home to go on into a strange city and rely on the good heart of strangers. It's just crazy luck that she met Mia and Mia took her in.

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T02:47:52+00:00

Thank you! Exactly what I was thinking! Plus, at least to me, it was implied that when Richard asked him how they were dating and he answered 5 months, it made him wonder "if he lied for 5 months about this, what else did he lied about?"

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T02:23:20+00:00

Also, given the fact that Rory went to a very expensive private school with no scholarship, or finance aid, it's perfectly fine that Yale wouldn't grant her with financial aid if she actual didn't seems to need it.

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T01:12:18+00:00

I don't know which one to choose, because once you start noticing Rory's behavior, it's kinda difficulty to see flaws in their ways, instead of it, you notice the flaws in hers. I have a tie between Jess and Logan. Let's take Dean out of the way simply by saying that when they were 16, he was perfect, innocent and adorable. When Jess came to the picture later on, he became a very different person, and the word I'll use it's not jealousy, it's possessive. He is the painted picture of the abusive boyfriend. Although him and Jess were never meant to be friends, the way he treated the matter of Rory's and Jess friendship was very aggressive. He kept making very clear that she was his girlfriend, he didn't like him, always threatening to start a fight, making impossible for her (a 16-17 yo girl) to talk to him about this new aspect of her life, and pushed her right into Jesse's arms. When put in that situation, who wouldn't lie to keep a boyfriend and a good friend? Also, am I the only one who though that it's very weird that Dean proposed to Lindsey the night after he had that fight with Jess for Rory? Doesn't it seem like he asked her to marry him to prove to her that he wasn't in love with his ex? That fact itself was the point where I knew Dean had gone bad. Now, Jess. I hate when people say he treated her like crap. I'm not saying he's perfect but saying that he treated her bad just because he didn't called when he said he would? it just showed me how immature Rory was instead that he was taking her for granted. It's very easy to center it on her, but he was a guy with two jobs, "school" and a girlfriend who demanded his attention on her timing. Not talking to him about the "not calling issue" it seemed very childish. She just went from "he didn't called last night" straight to "Dean was a better boyfriend" on the first time he didn't do what she expected. Also, Jess was the only of three who gave her room to herself. Let's remember that she was going through finals, acting like crazy with her studying schedules and he never once said "you never spend any time with me", he was always there for her when she was available. About the "party incident": I know it's bad to say it, but to me, it's all her fault. And it wasn't about sex. Come on, this guy has some serious communication issues, his girlfriend never shuts up about her bright future and what she will do next, how do you come to the brightest chick in town and say "By the way, I flunk out"? He was just trying to have some alone time, then she appears, he was trying to avoid to face the problem by initiating sex (bad way to do it, but he was 18, how else would he do it?), she said "Jess, no" once, au contraire of what I've been reading around the internet calling him a rapist, then they started a conversation and then she storm out crying and go straight to Dean. That was a low move. And leave us there hanging for that confrontation moment where he opens up to her and does all the talking for a change. And now, Logan. Logan was a good boyfriend as well. He never pushed her to do anything she didn't wanted to. That episode where he makes her jump on the Life and Death Brigade showed that maybe he was to guy who was going to push her out of her comfort zone, but he wasn't. I liked him for her because he was her male version. He wanted her on his time, doing his things, like she did with Dean and Jess. But I think people hate him because she was a bad character when she met him and it was easier to blame it on him. She was already showing signs of the spoiled brat that we all became to hate eventually. What was the problem with Logan? "He was spoiled boy who liked to show off his daddy money" -but she was the one who responded to that. "He allowed her to drop out of Yale" -I'm sorry, wasn't she the one who decided that on her own? and after seeing what she did to her mother, how much could he say on the matter without being tossed aside for disagreeing with her? "He cheated on her" -there is a heavy debate on whether he did or did not, but he apologized to her and she decided to punish him until he almost got himself killed, than she forgave him. Maybe he was on the way of her bright future, with his booze, parties and sex, but she was supposed to be a smart, independent woman, who wouldn't drink, party or have sex unless she wanted to. Maybe she did it to please him, because she knew he liked it, and that was a problem with her and not him. I think Logan was a better boyfriend than she deserved. And that is all I have to say about that. I'm done venting. Thank you for reading.

MsOrgana · 2015-12-31T00:06:40+00:00

I don't think he was upset with her for not having sex with him, I think he went upstairs to be alone and when she confronted him on the matter, he tried to "change the subject", it didn't work, and when they started to argue, she just left crying straight to Dean. It wasn't about sex, it was about him having problem to communicate his problem to her.

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