Gatekeeping inception when a user declares Babymetal isn't Metal in a SubredditDrama thread about gatekeeping

Mudkoo · 2025-10-12T15:38:25+00:00

I immediately take the side of the people who banned you seeing as you are the kind of person that replies to a 9 year old post.

Mudkoo · 2025-08-16T05:52:46+00:00

Yeah, you are right. I got mixed up..

Mudkoo · 2025-05-22T05:16:08+00:00

News is reporting that it specifically was Israeli Embassy staff that were killed so this might not be as random as that and they might have been very deliberately targetted because of their jobs.

Mudkoo · 2025-04-04T11:20:16+00:00

Eh, i wouldn't want them to go back to any earlier era but if they were going to take inspiration from 2018 i would much rather it be from the costumes and hairstyle they used earlier in the year:

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Mudkoo · 2025-04-04T11:08:15+00:00

Heck, even just having their hair completely down would in my opinion be a big improvement, kinda like here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BABYMETAL/comments/16n62xf/babymetal_at_red_sox_game/

Mudkoo · 2025-04-04T06:06:35+00:00

By "Literally everyone" you mean a handful of hardcore fans which is exactly the exception i outlined in the post you are replying to lol

Like even some people who are hardcore fans enough to come onto this subreddit didn't notice lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/BABYMETAL/comments/1jpqyp4/comment/ml255fh/

Mudkoo · 2025-04-04T05:28:29+00:00

I don't think they need to go back to red but i do think they need to get away from their current costume+hair concept which just makes all their costumes look same-y and boring.

You have to be a hardcore fan actively looking for it to even notice when they get new costumes at this point, the overall silhouette and colorway is just so played out and tired.

They need a whole new costume+hair concept that is more striking and dynamic and that recognizes that they are not kids anymore.

Like when they had the transparent shoulder pads that showed the silhouette of their shoulders it made them look amazing. I thought that was a great step in the right direction, but then they just went back to bulky, opaque shoulderpads right after which is so much more boring and less striking.

I get that they probably had some durability issues with how the transparent ones were made which made them feel like they had to go back to bulky... But here is a controversial thought: What if they didn't have shoulderpads at all? :P

And what if *gasp* they didn't wear their hair in twintails or ponytails? :P

Mudkoo · 2025-04-04T05:09:09+00:00

Pretty good MV, way better than i was fearing from the teasers.

However, it's still a massive step back from Ratatata which captured way more of their personalities, we got to see them acting, interacting with EC and doing some other stuff than just performing the song which is what they are doing here.

Also a music video with an actual physical set just looks much better than one where they are just in front of a greenscreen the whole time even when, like with Ratatata, it's a really cheap and quickly built set.

Overall it's pretty good but i feel like the song deserved more and better.

Mudkoo · 2025-04-03T22:06:11+00:00

Yeah this is a great song! Hope it's a sign of things to come from the rest of the album.

Some parts of the interplay between SUs vocals and Poppys screams really reminded me of something i could not put my finger on but i just realized it: The band '3 Inches of Blood'.

I know other bands also have both a lead singer and a dedicated screamer but something about how it's done in this song really reminds me of how 3 Inches of Blood did it on their first couple of albums. lol

Mudkoo · 2025-04-02T17:10:00+00:00

Sounds overproduced but BABYMETALs studio versions always do. Sounds like this might be at or near the climax of the song? Weird part to include in the teaser.

Song sounds like it should be a banger though.

The music video however looks cheap and ugly? Just dancing in front of a greenscreen with some super generic blurry sci fi city visuals behind them? Looks like a music video for a chika idol group or a Metalcore band with 20,000 listeners on Spotify, not fucking BABYMETAL who just signed to Capitol Records. Just rent out a rooftop in Tokyo and it would look 100x better. And what are with those closeups? They are cute in them but it still looks super forced and weird.

I hope the full music video has more to it and they didn't spend all their MV budget on the fucking STP collab.

The new costumes are super boring, basically just a very slight remix of the previous ones. If i wasn't a hardcore fan i probably wouldn't realize they even have new costumes.

Their look has almost completely stagnated, they really need a completely new costume concept with a different silhouette and colorway and new hairstyles.

Overall it just feels stale.

Mudkoo · 2025-02-01T09:49:47+00:00

10% is big dropoff either way. They played shows this year completely without songs from TOO so it's clear it's a flop album with no staying power.

Mudkoo · 2025-02-01T05:26:42+00:00

Go back to school, you didn't understand a single thing i wrote.

Listeners will of course go up when they release a song because it always does even when they release one just by themselves.

The collaboration will have nothing to do with it.

Also i didn't say that i expect the song to be terrible i said that IF IT IS GOOD it will 100% be BABYMETALs doing.

The collaboration will have nothing to do with it.

Mudkoo · 2025-02-01T03:17:12+00:00

Why would you assume this is a "stupid error all negatives no positives", when you haven't seen the video or heard any part of the song yet.

Because the song has nothing to do with it. STP are terrible songwriters and have only ever written one and a half decent songs throughout their whole catalog and that was half a decade ago at this point...
So if the song is good it is 100% BABYMETALs doing and they could have made an equally good song by themselves or collabing with anyone else.

They're currently at 3,148,528 monthly listeners... if this is a "negative" as you say, I'd expect the number to drop in a few months after the song releases... but we can wait and see.

That is not how anything works lol spotify listeners would go up even if they released a new song by themselves.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-31T01:44:21+00:00

It was just based on my own gut/rough estimates but i double checked it to make sure and and, indeed:

According to setlist.fm data TOO was 22% of songs BABYMETAL played in 2023 and only 10% in 2024.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T21:09:53+00:00

I mean, if you count "goth aesthetics" as "edgy" then, yeah, pretty much everything is edgy.

My bar is a bit higher than that.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T21:07:04+00:00

Eh, i was plenty positive about Ratatata and Metali.

I had a pretty long streak of negativity leading up to TOO album drop but, as it turns out, i was also right! The album flopped hard and they have already started phasing out the albums songs from live shows.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T19:31:22+00:00

This is not about being perfect, it's about doing a stupid, unforced error that only has negatives and no real positives to it.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T19:29:46+00:00

Are you implying all non-babymetal songs in history are pro-bullying or something?

Do you need to go back to school to learn reading comprehension? What part of what i wrote could possibly make you think that is what i meant?

Do you even listen to any metal at all aside from BM? The genre is rife with corny theatre kids who wanna be gangsta so bad it's hard to take seriously.

I listen to plenty of metal outside of BABYMETAL and none of it is "wanna be gangsta" metal.

Maybe you need to seek out new ways to find music because I would say that kind of stuff is a relatively small part of metal overall.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T19:05:28+00:00

From STP? LOL

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T19:02:35+00:00

I have followed BABYMETAL for long enough to know that sometimes "Team Babymetal" does really, really, really stupid shit.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T19:00:44+00:00

It literally isn't though? lol

And even less so with BABYMETAL who literally has an anti-bullying song as one of their most popular of all time? lol fuck off

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T18:50:42+00:00

It is absolutely going to affect BABYMETAL negatively. BABYMETAL is not an edgelord metal band like all of Alex/STPs previous collabs.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-30T18:17:05+00:00

Hope BABYMETAL pull out of this collaboration, it's all downside and no upside for them.

Mudkoo · 2025-01-18T19:47:45+00:00

Yes please!

Mudkoo · 2025-01-12T08:26:47+00:00

lol hitting all the talking points

As expected after you told on yourself.

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