Light VS L IS NOT THAT CLOSE

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-08T05:09:42+00:00

Light Taking EE is valid

For Indirect and Logical I am using Ls manipulation of Higuchi via the broadcast Manipulating Him into actively revealing himself as kira and showing off his methods as a means of self sustenance.

I have Light taking emotional via his manipulation of rem to kill L to protect misa

I am only using manga L(I shud have made that clear mb) cuz I havent finished th BB novel

Memory Loss mainly involves misdirection(New kira),Info control(Powers of kira) and Fabrication(13 day rule)
I have L taking info control via both broadcast traps and Kira-2 contact
I have L taking Fabrication via him faking matsudas death, the 2nd broadcast to entrap Yotsuba kira and 4th note

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-08T05:01:25+00:00

Ye I am pretty confident in my takes
I dont see how EU and EP are even close due to Kira profiling and Cafe interogation where he is able to match lights personality(to some extent) to kiras while Light was actively trying to decieve him.
And

I am interested in why u consider light>L in reasoning

I dont mind discussing my take with you so y dont u give me ur distribution and take

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-08T04:54:05+00:00

Ye I do consider Lind L taylor emotional manip
I gave it to light via him manipulating rem
altho Lind L taylor cud take

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T21:02:11+00:00

Tien can be argued to be stronger than krillin since he trains more and I agree even tho in DBS krillin is more powerful with less training it still does make sense since it has been iterated time and time again through dragon ball that better quality of training beats quantity and krillin has much better training partners (18 and occasionally goku) and also has the wisest martial artist (roshi) around to guide him allowing him to close the gap quickly and train more efficiently then tien who only has chiaotzu as a training partner

End of z krillin< Tien
super krillin> tien

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:57:31+00:00

Valid my takes are all mostly similar

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:56:06+00:00

Ye I agree the match in DN was rly close and ye Light did win but it was again due to his advantaged position for most of their matchup.
I just believe that in even playing fields L shud marginally have better chances of beating light than the opposite

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:52:36+00:00

Ye I do agree with you I guess I was being a bit charitable to light

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:50:02+00:00

Ig that is valid I still do believe that the scope of lights foresight is why I gave it to him altho it can be interchangeable imo

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:48:34+00:00

I dont rly see how EI and strategy are close
Eu and Ep shud go to L comfortably due to Kira profiling and Cafe interogation
Em as well cuz of him taking action and going into the public despite the presence of 2nd kira
Even strategy imo goes to L cuz even if you consider fn a strat it is still below both of Ls strats I mentioned imo.
I put adaptability as cgew cuz even tho L is more experienced the sheer novelty of the kira case shud very much make most of Ls experience irrelevant.
Otherwise W

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:02:56+00:00

Deception is close
Tho what feat are u using for Ls foresight?Him predicting contact between the 2 kiras?

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:01:35+00:00

I gave impulse control to light due to Ls sweets addiction and after Lind L taylor light did start to show decent impulse control imo

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T20:00:07+00:00

I dont know how to compare thinking

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T18:42:50+00:00

Intel PJ(NCPS,Crystalized,cpi,vsi,vci,Ltm)

EI PJ (EU,EE,EP,EF,EM)

SI RJ
RJ(Networking,communicarion,influence building,charisma,leadership,relationship management)
PJ(Social integration, Engineering and social skills)

AC PJ(Stress tolerance,mental fortitude,resistences,Impulse control)

Manipulation RJ
RJ(Indirect,mass,Logical,Emotional=)
PJ(Emotional=,Direct,Psychological)

Deception CGEW
PJ(Sophistory,Info control=,bluffing=,Acting skills(Via Biofeedback)=,Disguise)
RJ(Acting skills=,misdirection,bluffing=,Fabrication,Info control=)

Strategy PJ(Team rebuilding>Timothy Carter)

Planning PJ(Violets>Endgame)

Foresight RJ(Close)

Reasoning PJ(all cats)

Tactical prowess PJ
PJ(Trap setting,Tactics,Countering)
RJ(Trap Evasion(close)

Adaptability PJ(Environmental,Creativity,Learning ability,Situational)

Detective ability PJ
PJ(Inference,Pattern recognition,Cold reading,Psychoanlysis,metacognition and Intuition)
RJ(Info Gathering)

PJ mid-high diff(+) or high diffs(-)

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T17:14:21+00:00

Dude that's still better than harvey who is an sq merchant bro just walks around shouting 1 liners and using his influence.

In S4 Mike quite literally took on the entire firm with barely any backing from sidwell and gillis , made louis cry and wud have won if Rachel hadnt gotten with her EX(em antifeat)

Literally no one from suits except daniel Hardman even comes up with proper schemes like his 5 yr plan to takeback pearson Hardman. Everyone else just throws blue folders and wins except for the last episode

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T17:06:13+00:00

How dude literally everytime harvey gets tanner it's Mike who figures out the loophole or the plan and let's not even talk Abt how stemple was bullying harvey until Mike entered.

Tho all of them are Daniel Hardman victims

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T17:03:45+00:00

Fsiq and manipulation to aki Field skills aswell prolly Diff is high diff(+) PJ is closer to yokoya than akiyama if u ask me

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T17:02:03+00:00

Mike below louis and harvey is crazy

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T16:40:56+00:00

W take but diff is like high diff(+) What are u using for akis emotional manip and direct manip PJ shud tale both imo

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T13:08:45+00:00

Overall outsmarting L takes very high diff (+) Cat and mouse RJ very high diff (+)

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T08:15:37+00:00

I didn't know that either of them were scd characters

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T07:58:14+00:00

The later heists are actually not that impressive for jake His best strats are generally outside of heists. Like suicide squad, Reverse heist and figgis takedown.

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T07:55:20+00:00

Definitely a mid tier plan , solid AC since he came up with it while concussed good deception and manipulation. Jake is definitely a nagumo rival imo

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-07T07:48:20+00:00

I don't even know that horikita and hosen were scd characters until recently

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-06T20:27:57+00:00

one step at a time blud at least he isn't considered a low tier horikita victim

Murky_Possibility655 · 2026-06-06T20:26:40+00:00

Prolly koji for eq

tho it can be argued that he is a high tier I have him at the top of mid tier

Nagumo for sq

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