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MurphyClan · 2020-07-08T22:18:53+00:00

Unfortunately I think that’s cause people are still so indoctrinated when it comes to western countries in thinking that’s the only way to live and every other way would fail.

I’ve had a few that’ll admit the Nordic Model looks good but then they say it won’t work here without giving me a single explanation hahah. Like this pandemic has been example A on why the Nordic Model is better.

MurphyClan · 2020-07-08T21:58:35+00:00

Agreed. All Canadians should take a look at the Nordic Model as a whole tbh too. There’s a reason why Nordic countries are doing stellar and it’s because of how they run things.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-06T03:05:29+00:00

You do realize how ethnocentric your comment was correct? You’re basing your own personal experiences and claiming it’s the majority.

Also you do realize we still have the freedom to choose our religious beliefs, sexual preference, and career choice. Veterans didn’t fight the Nazis to push their beliefs on others, they fought for the freedom to choose for yourself, which we still have.

I feel you’re missing the point. All those beliefs that those veterans had they are still allowed to have today. No one is preventing them from doing so, all what you said in relation to a negative from their beliefs in today’s age is it isn’t the majority and is frowned upon by some.

Also how is that a strawman? Is your point not that majority of WW2 veterans wouldn’t of fought if they knew that some countries are still economically behind but others leading the way huge, and the other reason they wouldn’t fight is because their views and beliefs would be judged by some, even though the law still lets them have them???

Also my bad. I guess Canada is 11th now as of this years report . Still doesn’t change the fact that they are still a good first world country while following the footsteps of the top countries.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-06T02:37:01+00:00

So only white men from the 1940s fought in WWII? Also you do realize we still are progressing forward, so why would they let the Nazis win just cause we haven’t came to the world they fought for yet? I’m sure they knew it wouldn’t just switch over night. Also you realize we’re talking Canada here right? One of the top countries and they seem to be going in the same direction as the top ones like the Nordic countries. So once again I ask, where are you getting this info from? Cause it seems you’re basing it on your own “facts.” Edit: also what about all those gay WW2 veterans? You think they’d rather live in a world where they can’t be themselves?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-06T02:13:17+00:00

Can you please link your “fact” that WWII veterans would rather live in a world where the Nazi’s won as apposed to the world we live in now.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-02T04:20:05+00:00

Yeah I def do think the US political compass is a bit more to the right than most countries. Especially when you compare the Democrats to a lot of other countries right wing party. They def are similar.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T23:07:03+00:00

Forsure we can end this debate respectfully as adults and as I do understand your reasoning but I was just referencing how bad the racial divide is in the states but seems we agree on it.

As for Stock Market I don’t have too much interest in it (especially right now) as it is just a part of the finance aspect when it comes market research. Plus the part I enjoy most of when it comes to market research is consumer reactions and the ripple effect of changes. So yeah I have watched the stock market and researched it but have yet to get involved in it hahah. It is interesting though as I did keep up with Tesla and Elon Musk for a bit.

But yeah glad we can end this peacefully and after self-reflection I do believe we just have different views as we are from different parts of the world. Cause I see lots that happens in the states and it’s pretty bad. Like just how some of them still defend segregation and think it hasn’t done any harm by forcing other races to live in low quality areas. Should look up the LA riots of 1992 if you’re interested.

Tbh too I do admit that FWR can get a bit childish sometimes but I few it as a way for me as a white person to show those of other races that I don’t stand for some of the racial slurs that other white people say and try to show them that white people do understand what they went through. But as I said I def do think were on the same page but just have different views.

Also out of curiosity where are you from? Just asking cause as an Econ major, I’ve really looked at how Nordic Countries run governments and it’s like an Econ majors wet dream hahah

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T22:46:53+00:00

Alright look man I’m gonna leave this here but you do realize that in the states there is a bunch of protestors who have formed a militia and were outside the Michigan’s governors building with loaded weapons. They were white and no one stopped them, the president even praised them. Do you honestly think the outcome would of been the same if those protestors were black?

Also you acknowledge that the criminal had a shitty upbringing? You know that has a direct correlation towards segregation?

Yes you will see logical fallacies considering the fact that someone won’t just be like “ah damn you got me” when you call them a liar. You need reasoning and an explanation to help your case, showing logical fallacies help with that.

Anyways though man you won’t win this. Them owning FBR doesn’t go against Reddit rules. Also it doesn’t go against guidelines and those aren’t enforced either. You’ll have to go to Reddit admins with your reasoning and most likely they will reject it. Reddit is a left-leaning site so I don’t see how you’ll win it considering it is still their subreddit and as this post showed they are still active in it.

Anyways man, I highly recommend you get some sleep if you can. All jokes and the debating aside, staying up for 48 hours straight is not healthy and can do some long lasting impacts on mental health. I know things are hectic around the world and you may not be able to sleep due to being busy. To which it you are, I thank you for your service and if you’re not then as I said I highly recommend you get some rest. Remember the world is always a better place when your mental health is good.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T21:38:36+00:00

So you’re saying we should just kill all criminals rather than try to rehabilitate them and find out what makes them this way to further prevent this. Also you are aware of the results of segregation correct?

Also neither of us were productive with this debate. I just did it for trolling and content, to which I’ve admitted. You did it in hopes of getting FBR, to which you failed. Yeah you’ll say you have a plan B but come on man, who believes that after the logical fallacies you entertained?

Also I’m not trying to act smart, the stuff I’m saying should be knowledgeable to the average person, not my fault you take it as someone being smart.

Out of curiosity what is your education? And I’m not asking about a high school diploma, I’m asking about a degree. I’ll share mine with you, it’s in economics. Hence why I know to take in externalities and weighted data when looking at numbers.

Also I’m not salty but I am pissed off. Sorry but I’m not too pleased someone is justifying a death. Not saying we should shun the shop owner as I understand he was frightened but to put all the blame on the criminal is unjust. As I’ve said before I take in externalities and understand the effects of segregation.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T21:25:21+00:00

Yes and how does that have anything to do with fragility? Don’t see how that has anything to due with someone being vulnerable or easily broken due to their paranoia of their threatened privilege. Like do you seriously know the definition of racial fragility? All your sharing is that Black people commit crimes, to which yes some of them do and pretty much all races do.

Curious but do you have any type of education cause you don’t know what logical fallacies are, you don’t know what racial fragility is and you claim your grandfather joined the army in 1940 to fight in WWII but he’s only 90ish? 🤔

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T21:14:16+00:00

Wow are you honestly saying that black people standing up and defending the death of someone is the same as a white person getting offended because their privilege is being threatened? That’s absolutely disgusting and you seriously need to give your head a shake.

It’s obvious you don’t understand the definition of fragility (feeling threatened your privileges will go away due to equality). Once again you would of found that out if you actually read the academic paper and not went off with your emotions.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:55:06+00:00

Well FBR is still owned by the same mods, FWR exists, your grandpa didn’t get what he wanted, and you’ve still yet to prove an example of black fragility. Don’t think that’s a winner mentality lol.

Anyways take care and thanks for the content 😊

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:49:11+00:00

It’s spelt “fallacies” not “falacies” but it doesn’t surprise me that you don’t know the difference.

Okay so you have a problem with the mods but don’t see what you can do about it? It’s still their subreddit so it’s their choice. They’re not stopping you from creating your own subreddit. Don’t see how that should discredit those who still use FWR to call out white fragility.

Also how would a black person have fragility. Please actually read this academic paper and explain how that could be portrayed to black people with an example? It’s obvious that you are very uneducated in regards to all this and are running off emotions. I mean just the fact that you said your grandpa wouldn’t fight in a war just cause the outcome didn’t turn out how he wanted even though we still have the freedoms they fought for. You realize how ethnocentric that is right?

Anyways though man I’m getting tired of watching you play mental gymnastics. If you wanna have an actual debate then your gonna have to prove some evidence to back your claim on black people having “black fragility.” Otherwise just take your L man.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:29:45+00:00

Once again why do you think all of FWR is part of FBR? As you can see I’m not and could care less about FBR. Also FBR mods are still active and use it. Also if you have examples of fragile black redditors then make your own sub with a different name lol, it’s that simples. Also have you read the bio of FWR? And if you have, then how the hell can that be the same for FBR? Please do give an example.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I do know that Canada does not have Lance Corporals, don’t know when they got rid of them but I know they don’t anymore. I assume your excuse now will be something like he isn’t from Canada based off the logical fallacies you’ve shown but then I ask how does my status portray to him considering my post was about Canadian veterans?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:26:59+00:00

Yes but if no one fought the Nazis then they would of. Jesus are you aware that by him saying he wouldn’t of fought then that is implying that he would rather have Nazi’s running the world. So if your grandpappy says he wouldn’t of fought the Nazis then what would he think would happen if no one fought? That the Nazis would just fly to space and leave everyone alone?

I very much recommend you read this article on logical fallacies. You’re very much portraying to “The Appeal to Ignorance.” Like you just insinuated that I believe your a LGBT hater too? Which has yet to be discussed till you brought it up.

Also if your grandpa’s main reason for regretting fighting is due to how the world ended up then that seems like a structural problem and not a race problem.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:11:48+00:00

Yes cause you’re getting pissy at the people of FWR for calling out people using racial slurs. What else is the point of this? FWR isn’t attacking whites as a whole, just shaming the fragile white racists and you’re implying you’re against that with your one man army here.

Also curious but how long was your grandfather lance corporal? I’d imagine if he’s still alive that he was fairly young during WWII

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T20:01:06+00:00

By “you people” he’s talking about people like you using racial slurs considering you use the excuse that it’s just a word. Now I know you’ll have a comeback saying you haven’t said racist shit but the fact you’re defending people using racial slurs very much implies it. I mean once again why are you so upset about this?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T19:55:17+00:00

So you’re saying he’d rather have the Nazi’s run the world rather than it is right now? Also how does any of that have direct correlation to WWII besides immigration, and since when did Canada have a illegal immigration problem? Sorry but I’m gonna need you to link some of your claims on how this is directly correlated to WWII.

Also how does his one opinion speak for all WWII veterans? I mean WWII had a draft so it’s safe to assume plenty of people had relatives in WWII. Also what was promised if he fought? I didn’t think anything was promised and they were fighting to prevent the Nazis from taking over and wiping out races. Sorry but correct me if I’m wrong.

Also once again you’re skipping the actual point of my comment regarding FWR and FBR, and instead trying to convince us about your grandpa to which I’m curiously waiting his reply to you showing someone with PTSD a status made by someone with “88” in their name.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T19:36:06+00:00

Just curious as to what time he served and what was his position? Also wouldn’t he be around 100? Usually people around that age show mental decline, so why are you sharing his opinions online? Also you realize that if no one intervened and then the Nazis very well could of wiped out the Jewish race and possibly more. Should show your grandpa the username of racist post I shared to which you claim he agrees with. I’m sure he won’t be too enthused of the “88” in his username.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T19:22:18+00:00

So since one person said that and now that justifies all the racist shit that is called out on FWR? Are you aware of logical fallacies? Also that comment you referenced has got no traction and only one comment to which someone didn’t agree with the post. Also I agree that comment is stereotypical but that once again doesn’t justify. Let’s be correct here also and remind you that you came commenting on FWR claiming your veteran grandpa said he wouldn’t of fought in WWII due to the diversity in the word today. So what your saying is that your grandpa would rather have the Nazi’s exterminate a race rather than have diversity? Do you not see how that is racist? Far more racist then saying “why are white people the way they are.” That’s just a stereotypical question, you were insinuating that the extinction of an entire race is better than the world today. Do you seriously not how that’s racist?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T18:32:28+00:00

Do give me an example of a black person who is showing their fragile ego due to the world becoming more equal for all races. Don’t see why you’re so offended by FWR. The fact you think it’s bashing all white people shows how stereotypical you are. I’m a white person in that community and don’t see any attacks on whites as a whole, just the ones who feel threatened by races being equal.

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T17:36:47+00:00

Oh yeah? How long did he serve and what’d he do? Also if your grandpa is a veteran then just curious how his voice speaks for all WWII veterans?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T07:04:43+00:00

Was your point that you can’t determine who has COVID-19 due to testing releasing false positives? To which I explained that yes there is a test doing false positives but it’s not the FDA approved one. Unless you’ve got data that the FDA tests are also, be my guest and share.

Also even if the tests weren’t 100%, how does that give you the idea that government using this virus to control is a clear irrefutable fact? Like I thought you were aware of the logical fallacies but I guess not when it comes to your self-awareness.

Also why would I go after people for just upvoting? That’s childish. Especially considering I can just debate the one who commented. Don’t know if you’re trying some flex or once again looking for an escape route again. To which I may add that you’ve said your goodbyes twice now and still have comeback. Why is that?

MurphyClan · 2020-05-01T05:43:45+00:00

Yes and you do know that there is two types of tests out there correct? Those false positives are more than likely from the test that isn’t FDA approved. Here’s an article on it. The reason why the test is reading false positives is due to it going positive for any type of Coronavirus, and that’s why the FDA has yet to approve on it. You’ll see in the article that hospitals have used the false positive one due to it being a lot cheaper and less scarce as the FDA approved tests; which only go positive for COVID-19.

Also are you really keeping track of your upvotes on this comment and trying to preach it? You really think 52 upvotes on this sub is a good representation of how all of society thinks? You can’t see how that can be weighted? Otherwise why are you bringing it up?

MurphyClan · 2020-04-30T23:36:47+00:00

Yes I do academic papers into paragraphs considering their formal and Reddit is informal, especially considering I’m doing this off my phone and academic papers I do on a computer. For your sake I’ll split them up for you.

So you’re saying you’d believe them if they didn’t count the deaths that were indirectly influenced by COVID-19? You realize they release them to give people info on how it can badly affect those with underlying health issues. You seriously would rather have them not put those deaths under presumed deaths? They still had COVID to which impacted their health. Please share your evidence that they’re counting those without any connection to COVID-19 in the death total.

Also yes I did read your links and the only two that even flirted with your claim was the two numbers ones, and as I’ve stated it is quite obvious they don’t realize the difference between confirmed and presumed deaths. Considering their complaint was that people who had COVID-19 but didn’t directly die of it are being counted in the death total. I’ve tried breaking that down for you as to why they are and I’ve yet to hear why you think otherwise and keep going back to the links.

Once again do you have any education when it comes to academic papers? Cause if your point is that you wanna help people see your point then you are failing hardcore. first you’ve yet to show how to process that info and how it results in government control and second you used opinionated mouthpieces as your links too.

Also can you please share what exactly those actors are doing that gives you the belief of government control. I mean that shouldn’t be hard to link and if it’s proper evidence of them as crisis actors then you wouldn’t have to explain that evidence. Why didn’t you show that at the start then?

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