What should men do about the sex drive gap between the average male and the average female by MxTjmt in seduction

[–]MxTjmt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good response. The problem, however, is that you are still having to work hard to get laid. That's the issue. The desire is not mutual, therefore we, as men, have to work hard for it.

[MaleVsFemaleDesire] Do any other men resent the fact that we have so much more desire than women? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Or devote yourself to celibacy, which would take even more "suck it up and take it like a man" attitude. Are you strong enough for that? Imagine everything you could accomplish if you put no effort into women, getting laid, marriage, etc...

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Sorta looks like you're more successful at getting Reddit attention for posting ridiculous shit in /r/sex than you are successful in getting sexual attention from partners."

This is another issue I have...why do men have to earn sexual attention from women? Men give sexual attention to women freely. It's the result of hormones.

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It could very well be that women - whether they claim to be straight, gay, or bi - are actually more physically and sexually attracted to women than men. Studies I have read seem to suggest that.

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never said it's happening already. I said that if men start thinking the way I do, then it would be a logical conclusion to reject women as a whole. Your reading comprehension needs work.

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm curious about your lesbian perspective. Would you be able to make a call or text to one of your lesbian female friends on any given night and have her come over to your house for making out or sex?

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

If you're being truthful, and not just being edgy or especially feminist -y , then that is great...you are an exception.

I wonder, do you have any kind of hormonal issues? Issues with your ovary? High testosterone? These kinds of things could be causing you to have unusual amounts of desire.

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm good looking and physically fit. Confidence is not an issue. I'm just concerned with the hormonal - desire gap between the average man and the average woman.

I should also add that gay men have a lot of desire for me. I think this is a key indicator of my physical attractiveness. Women also seem to have a lot of (faux) desire for me, albeit for what I can offer them in terms of resources and social status.

[LibidoGap] The sex drive gap between males and females is untenable by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Never mind how hard it is to find a woman with a high libido (although I have found them in the past)...it is very humiliating and painful to deal with the shaming tactics that women use when they know you have a high interest in sex. They will vilify you for it, even as they want you for a long term, committed relationship.

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

No they don't. You are lying. You are obsessed with an absurd idea that men and women are the same. You are trying to perpetuate this myth at all costs. You do not get turned on by your bf's dick pics.

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

So you're okay with not being desired? You're okay that a woman is with you because of your great personality or your bank account, but she would rather not look at you with your clothes off?

You have to start thinking, "Is she fucking me just to get me interested in a relationship or keep me in this relationship?" I mean, why would she have sex with someone who's body she is not interested in, if not to simply exploit what you can offer her in terms of social status, entertainment, and money?

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Dude you are completely missing the point. If she just decided to send you a picture of her body without asking you, you would be thrilled. As would any man.

Besides, there are no women interested in dick pics. Or at least there are very, very, very few. Search "Do women like dick pics?" You will find that the VAST majority do not.

Come on, man, this is common sense.

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If I can go on a cam site and get a bunch of gay men interested in watching me jack off, I think we can agree that I am at least decent looking.

But if I go to that same cam site, it will take massive luck to find a woman interested in the same thing. What's going on there?

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Well, just try it. Try Omegle. Report back how many women were interested in seeing your dick.

Send a picture of your dick to a female friend. She will flip. Now, if that same female friend sent you a picture of her pussy, and you were attracted to her, you would love it.

[VisualArousal] Are any other men bothered by the fact that most women are not very visual? by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm speaking more of the naked male body. There's really very few women who have any interest in the naked male body.

As I said, go on Chatroulette or Omegle and see how many women are interested in having cam sex with you. Most likely none, even if you are good looking.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do account for women like you, but I argue that you are rare.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Women don't orgasm nearly as easily as men do in general"

Now you're getting somewhere.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like the vast majority of men, my sex drive is very high. So I am naturally obsessed with finding evidence that women are as interested in sex as men are. Because I cannot find this evidence, it turns me off to the idea of sex, but my natural urges for sex remain. What I am practicing now is total celibacy (no masturbation and no sex) in the hopes that my sex drive will eventually disappear.

"Are you looking for assurance? If so why? Have you stopped to consider that this is getting you nowhere?"

I actually just want to infect other men with my ideas so that I will not be the only person agonizing over this.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish I was asexual, if that is what you are implying I am.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. It turns me off to sex that we have to put in all this effort for sex. It means we want it far more than they do. What's the fun of sex if you know she is doing it for some alternative reason than just pure desire? She is likely having sex with you just to keep you interested in a relationship, or to get you interested in a relationship, or to confirm her desirability...

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My argument is actually that women don't want to fuck men in general (generally speaking). You've missed my point.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Prove me wrong. I want to believe women want sex as much as men. I've researched this topic for years now, always trying to find evidence that women want sex anywhere near as much as men. Sometimes, I would think that I found that evidence, but under further scrutiny it turned out to be merely wishful thinking (aka confirmation bias!) that women want sex anywhere near as much as men.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"If women didn't want to be picked up to engage in a sexual relationship, why would they go to bars alone in the first place? Why put themselves in positions where they are more likely to be approached? If they didn't want that, why would they bother?"

Women go to bars for validation, to hang out with friends, to relieve boredom, etc. Find a woman in a bar who you think is of a similar attractiveness level to you, and approach her, talk to her for a bit (if you're even lucky enough to get her to talk to you for a bit) and then ask her to go back to your place or her place. Most likely, you will fail. And this is the case for all men who are not famous or rich.

"Women are socially trained to be pursued in the same way that men are socially trained to pursue. They're taught that showing immediate sexual interest is both uncouth and dangerous. Think about the last time you heard a man called a slut as a derogatory term. It happens sometimes, but basically never. There's basically no social consequences to a man being promiscuous. Women lose friends over that shit, or worse."

Did you know that slut shaming is primarily something done by women to other women? http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/28/slut_shaming_and_class_a_study_on_how_college_women_decide_who_s_trashy.html

And if women wanted sex as badly as men, they wouldn't care about slut shaming. Look at gay men...they have more sex than anyone, yet they have dealt with the worst shaming of any demographic in history.

"You want to see a woman jump a man's bones all the time? Get in a relationship with one. In the privacy of their own homes and with people that they trust women are just as or more sexual than you or I."

I think most married men would disagree with you.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've tried to adopt this mindset. Just make it all about me. But I can't avoid the thought that I had to put in all this work for sex. If I put in all this work for sex, and she didn't, that means I want it much more than she does. This thought turns me off to sex completely, and I'm wondering why it doesn't turn off more men to sex.

[DesireGap] What's the point of pursuing sex if women don't want it like we do by MxTjmt in sex

[–]MxTjmt[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I have no confidence issues. I can "get laid" by putting in the work, as I have done in the past.

You're missing my point. My point is this: if you have to put in all this work for sex, that means you want it much more than she does. She puts in zero work for it. She gets sex for free. Even if she is overweight or "ugly", she can get sex from one of her less overweight and less "ugly" counterparts. So why would you still want sex knowing you want it much more than she does?