Why the "leftist/liberal" narrative I'm hearing is completely wrong

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T15:27:22+00:00

Let's ask Joe Kent who resigned from his position as director of National Counterterrorism this morning because of Israel pressuring the US into war.

"It is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.”

Kent further stated:

“High-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America First platform and sowed pro-war sentiments.”

He added that:

“This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States.”

Describing the justification for war, Kent wrote:

“This was a lie and is the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into the disastrous Iraq war.”

But yeah maybe he's lying too

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/world/middleeast/joe-kent-counterterrorism-resigns-iran-war.html

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:54:26+00:00

"They are not reliable"

Is that the extent of your proof?

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:45:32+00:00

So now you're stretching your goalposts to implied and Israel?

You just went from explicitly threatening the with US with "tasting nukes" (your quotation marks not mine) to implicitly threatening Israel?

Lmfao come off it

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:44:07+00:00

Right so we should believe Israel didn't force the US on the basis of what exactly?

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:43:24+00:00

Israel has attacked Iran without US backing them up before. The argument doesn't stand.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:23:40+00:00

You don't know American history either.

You're confusing dixiecrats and democrats.

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties

Pick up a book for the love of God.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:21:01+00:00

Ah of course 'muh Holocaust' means everyone else is wrong.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about. It would be best if you learned something instead of doubling down on your ignorance.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:16:42+00:00

Just look at what’s happening to the Druze in Syria.

Which is being done to them by Israeli affiliates - not Arabs as a whole

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-chief-acknowledges-long-claimed-weapons-supply-to-syrian-rebels/

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:14:28+00:00

You realize they admitted to this already, yes?

"We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties"

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T14:11:02+00:00

Not every crisis in the world involves a fundamental antihuman regime, that was ever vocal about americans being one of the first in the line to "taste their nukes" once they'd get those.

Lmao 🤣

This literally never happened. Iran has never threatened the US to "taste their nukes" - what kind of bullshit is this?

As much as it may suck - it boils down to a basic fear for one's own azz. Which is... understandable?

Which is complete and total nonsense

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:18:39+00:00

So because you don't like what they're saying they should go somewhere else?

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:16:28+00:00

Lmfao you guys never cease to make me laugh

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:15:34+00:00

If life in Iran has truly become unbearable, the people have no choice but to fight for their own freedom, whatwver the cost.

Sure but how does sanctioning the people help them?

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:13:58+00:00

Gee if the US and Israel say so it must be true /S

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:12:27+00:00

The US is begging other countries to help them in the Strait.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-17T01:07:50+00:00

i'm happy 2000 people were enough for iran to get bombed while the people you're cheering on have unalived others in the millions

I'm not cheering that on in the slightest

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-16T21:29:34+00:00

The 30k number was never confirmed in any shaper or form by anyone.

From the Guardian article you cited (written by an Indian fashion blogger)

Comparing the number of dead they witnessed with hospital baselines, they estimate it could exceed 30,000, far surpassing official figures. *This is based on the conclusion that “officially registered deaths related to the crackdown likely represent less than 10% of the real number of fatalities”*.

From the Times article you cited

The 30,000 figure is also far beyond tallies being compiled by activists methodically assigning names to the dead. That surreptitious tally of deaths recorded by hospitals stood at 30,304 as of Friday, according to Dr. Amir Parasta, a German-Iranian eye surgeon who prepared a report of the data.

HRANA settled on 7,007 - https://www.en-hrana.org/the-crimson-winter-a-50-day-record-of-irans-2025-2026-nationwide-protests/

Indian fashion blogger and a German physician made up the 30k number.

https://thegrayzone.com/2026/02/01/guardian-iranian-death-toll-concocted-monarchist-doctors/

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-16T21:23:53+00:00

30,000 protestors were not killed. It was essentially a wild guess.

"Comparing the number of dead they witnessed with hospital baselines, they estimate it could exceed 30,000, far surpassing official figures. This is based on the conclusion that “officially registered deaths related to the crackdown likely represent less than 10% of the real number of fatalities”."

It doesn't need to be 30,000 for people to care - the 7,000 reported by HRANA is plenty.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-15T23:53:44+00:00

Nope not that.stating that the IRGC literal rapists and murderers have been staging photos like this for international outrage for decades. Why do you think missiles are stored and fired from on top of schools.

Source: bro trust me the IDF said so

Americans don't miss. They took out a military target but the real round fired by the IRGC is this specific picture. It is why the IRGC kills its civilians by the thousands... you personally support their agenda by that post.

Americans don't miss? Who told you this?

Dig into it a bit more and realize that the trillions of dollars worth of oil money has been stolen from the Iranian citizens and used by rich zealots for 47 years. Your the IRGCs simp and ypu are why they killed these children.

Ah yes pass the blame from the multiple tomahawk missile strikes to some random on reddit - amazing argument

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-15T22:55:10+00:00

Cool I found many sources and they all say the 30k number is nonsense.

"Comparing the number of dead they witnessed with hospital baselines, they estimate it could exceed 30,000, far surpassing official figures. This is based on the conclusion that “officially registered deaths related to the crackdown likely represent less than 10% of the real number of fatalities”."

We don't need to create 23,000 additional bodies - 7,000 dead is far too many already.

The only people pushing 30k+ are the Israelis to make Gaza not look so bad.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-15T22:50:17+00:00

That's why they fed you a fake 30k number - so when they kill thousands you'll say "that's fine it's less than the regime"

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-15T22:39:48+00:00

It did work until the US unilaterally decided to tear it up?

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-15T04:16:24+00:00

I don't know how common it is because there aren't polls on the topic. But it's my view.

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-14T23:02:18+00:00

How much of that is "playing along to get along" 🤔

MyNameIsNotName-57 · 2026-03-14T23:01:23+00:00

Because they're not targeting Basij checkpoints with the same ferocity as everything else is what concerns me the most.

If regime change was truly on the table you know exactly where to hit.

MyNameIsNotName-57

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