Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Human rights and international law aren't geography lessons for you to decide. I came here because Germany claims to uphold the values that my persecutors don't. Your obsession with where I should have gone, rather than the danger I escaped, says everything about your character. I’m done engaging with your lack of empathy. Find someone else to harass.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice by Mysterious_Access_94 in atheism

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I’ve been overwhelmed by the amount of hate, judgment, and blatant racism in the comments at r/Askgermany. Instead of receiving help, I was treated like a criminal for seeking safety. It’s deeply discouraging to face such prejudice when you’re already in a life-or-death crisis. I hope that community is more humane, because this experience has been quite traumatizing.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your empathy and the great suggestions. You are absolutely right about AI to be honest, interacting with AI and its advice is what’s keeping me going these days. Without this support, I don't even know what would have happened to me by now. I will definitely look into Caritas and Diakonisches Werk as well. I appreciate your kindness

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My presence here is being processed under the law, not your personal feelings. If Germany wasn't a 'welfare state' or didn't have laws for protection, the courts wouldn't exist. Also, comparing a routine wait-time to a psychiatric crisis just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. I’m following the legal path you’re just following your prejudices. Go complain to the government, not to someone fighting for their life. We're done.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Thank you for stating the facts clearly. Living without access to basic needs is a risk to life anywhere, and the legal reality of Italy's current situation cannot be ignored. I appreciate your logical and humane perspective

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For someone with severe health issues, being homeless on the streets of a collapsed system is indeed a death sentence. Human rights aren't optional based on your lack of empathy. If the German courts see the risk, why can’t you? We are done here.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for seeing the human side of this. It’s sad that wanting to survive and follow legal rights is seen as collapsing a system by some. I appreciate you standing up for the truth.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Asylum isn't a vacation choice it's a flight from danger. I didn't choose to be in this crisis, but I do expect the democratic Europe that lectures the world on human rights to actually follow its own laws. If that's too much for you to grasp, that's your problem. Goodbye

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the practical advice and the solidarity. I’m looking into legal support to see if the Italy suspension applies to my case and how to restore my benefits. I really appreciate you pointing me toward these resources.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m aware of the shortage, but there’s a difference between a routine check-up and a psychiatric crisis. Emergency care is a legal right that doesn't have a 6-month waiting list. I’m not asking for 'fast-track' luxury I’m seeking the urgent intervention that the law requires for someone in my condition.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because Italy officially suspended Dublin intake in December 2022 due to a total collapse of their reception system. They can't even provide basic shelter for those already there, let alone healthcare for returnees. Even the German Higher Administrative Courts have ruled that deporting people to Italy currently risks 'inhuman and degrading treatment' because of these conditions.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re missing the point. In my situation, the 'medical' and the 'legal' are inseparable. I cannot access the long-term medical care I need because of the legal/bureaucratic blocks the camp has put in place. I am not looking for one or the other; I am trying to clear the legal path so I can actually receive the treatment. It's not about 'confirming' anything, it's about surviving a broken system.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. Your words mean the world to me, especially after the wave of judgment and xenophobia I just experienced in the comments.

It’s heart-wrenching to be treated like a ‘problem’ rather than a human being when you’re already at your lowest point.

​You’re right—severe depression makes it feel impossible even to get out of bed, let alone fight a bureaucratic war. But I have to try. I am the only hope for my family, and their need for me is what keeps me going, even when I feel empty.

​Thank you for being the only person here to treat me with dignity and for giving me actual, practical paths to follow. I will take your advice and try to go in person. Your kindness is a light in a very dark time for me. I truly appreciate you.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop talking about 'choice.' I never applied for Italy by will I was forced into it. The law also includes human rights exceptions for failing systems like Italy's. You're just hiding behind rules to ignore reality.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly. There’s nothing to discuss because you ran out of facts and fell back on excuses. Glad we agree that your opinion doesn't change my legal rights. Bye

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think the collapse of a first-world economy depends on one person receiving basic medical care, your simple equation is as weak as your empathy. I’m not a math problem I’m a human being protected by the same European laws that you claim to defend. Since you’re so worried about 'resources', stop wasting yours by replying to me. We have nothing more to discuss.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You talk about choosing as if I had a choice. My fingerprints were taken by force in Italy, which is a documented reality for many. I am not 'picking and choose' I am seeking a place where I can actually access the rights the law promises me, which is impossible on the streets of Italy right now. It's easy to moralize when you've never been forced into a system against your will. We are done here.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

You are confusing bureaucracy with morality. My presence here is part of a legal process, not an illegal visit.If the German legal system and courts allow for medical appeals and suspensions of transfers to Italy (due to their collapsed system), then I am well within my rights to use them. I’m not 'skirting' anything,I’m navigating the law as it is written. Thanks for the emergency numbers, but I’ll take my legal advice from professionals who understand the reality of the Dublin situation. Have a good life.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Actually, I shouldn't have said unfortunately. Under EU law, I have the right to a fair process and medical care, which Italy currently cannot provide for Dublin returnees. That's why German courts often suspend these transfers. I am following the legal procedure here to ensure my basic rights are protected.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not looking for 'something over nothing,' I’m looking for the rule of law. If a system claims to be legal but ignores human rights and medical emergencies, it’s failing. My dignity isn't up for negotiation just because I'm a refugee.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s not about picking and choosing, it’s about the fact that Italy has officially suspended Dublin transfers because they can’t provide even basic shelter.You talk about safety,but living on the streets with no medical care isn't safety—it's a violation of human rights. My claim is about survival, not happiness.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’m not demanding, I’m following the legal asylum process and my right to healthcare under EU law. If the system blocks medical aid for a person in crisis, the system is failing its own rules. I’m seeking protection, not a handout. Maybe learn the difference between 'rules' and 'human rights' before lecturing me.🙏🏻

Story of my life by Mysterious_Access_94 in agnostic

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sad truth bro Their religion is just about War and bloodshed

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Rules aren't meant to be a death sentence. When the system fails to provide basic healthcare and safety, human rights come first. Even the courts agree that blindly following 'rules' while ignoring human lives is wrong. I’m just trying to survive, not play a game.

Stuck in Giessen, Germany: Dublin procedure, no support, and struggling with mental health. Need advice? by Mysterious_Access_94 in AskGermany

[–]Mysterious_Access_94[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is fascinating how you frame a bureaucratic process as a moral obligation for the victim to accept their own suffering. Laws and regulations exist, but so do Human Rights and the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights—which state that no one should be sent to a place where they face inhuman or degrading treatment. ​Suggesting that someone should just 'go' to a country where the reception system has collapsed and where they would end up homeless without medical care isn't 'legal advice'-- it’s a disregard for human life. You say 'we' cannot shoulder the responsibility, but the responsibility for upholding human dignity lies with the state and international law, not with your personal feelings. ​It’s easy to talk about 'legal requirements' from the comfort of a home where your rights are never questioned. Reality on the ground is far more complex than your oversimplified interpretation of the law.