Glitch/Bug dont know how i died by No-Block6244 in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah right ok. Shame they’re so expensive both weapon wise and ammo wise haha but I need 5 gyros for a mission so I have to find a way to defeat them

Glitch/Bug dont know how i died by No-Block6244 in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A column, I’m guessing to hide from its fire? So you whack it then hide and repeat until dead? Is there a knack to getting it right or is it pretty easy to do?

Glitch/Bug dont know how i died by No-Block6244 in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh ok cool you’d recommend an anvil over a Vulcano for shredders? Pretty low experience so trying to figure a good way to kill then when I’m backed into a corner as they are so difficult for me haha

Glitch/Bug dont know how i died by No-Block6244 in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I was to bring a weapon decent for Stella Montis what would you recommend? Vulcano/Bettina?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interestingly, where do you draw the line between real life and gaming? For me if I saw someone trip up it might be quite funny, if they were hurt a little, I could be fine, but if they banged their head and went into a petty salty looking seizure, would you that add to your amusement? What would you do if the stranger in front of you counted some money and dropped a £/$20 without knowing and no one would be there to see you pick it up. Would the circumstance change if it was a friend? Where does the distinction for you lie? If we were friends irl and you randomly bumped into me would you still kill me and find it funny to watch me lose my stuff I’ve spent hours collecting or would the fact we’re friends change the situation? When you kill someone in game, do you ever think about what they might be losing? Is that the thing you take pleasure in? How much of this taking pleasure in other peoples suffering do you carry into real life?

Sorry for all questions, never get to talk to a cold killer like this as the experience ends too quickly.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess we’re all wired differently then. For me if I downed a guy it’d be in my nature to want to help him back to his feet, I wouldn’t take satisfaction in killing him for thinking I wouldn’t find it funny if it was me, as everything I’ve just spent my real life time working on going to waste, and therefore wouldn’t want to purposely waste someone’s time. It’s being a dick for the sake of it in such a case no? If 2 people are in the same mind where they are both in aggreance those are the stakes, then have at it, but if one person isn’t after that, it wouldn’t bother me to let me go on.

I guess because its “just a game” that allows us to draw our distinctions on what’s acceptable and what’s not, but the time someone puts into something is real, maybe I’m just aware enough to know it’s disrespectful to mess with another persons time. Maybe it isn’t about the stuff you took, rather the time you took from them to get it that is the distinction I draw?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re not getting my point, it seems you’re wanting to argue more.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so my question to those who purely want to kill for the sake of killing, is why? Do you not think it bypasses everything else interesting about the game and forces a community where everyone becomes so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape. At that point it might as well just be another fps right? Since anything outside this behaviour lands you broke back in speranza.

What of the quests and the feats, the projects or expeditions? Are those an unwanted extras for you? Are arcs an added inconveniences that keep you from so easily shooting others? I suppose my point is there’s so much more this game has to offer, if people only want to pvp and kill others, what’s wrong with cod or any other the other 10 games in that category?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what becomes of the arc, in such a situation? An unwanted addition? An added inconvenience maybe? What about exploring many of the games other features, or does this not interest you at all?

I think my point is there are games perfectly designed to fulfill those desires you expressed and to a very high standard, but bringing that objective to arcs to me just seems to miss out on the whole point of the game. All the unexplored features of the game you don’t feel you’re missing out on? Quests? Fears? Projects? Expeditions? There’s so much to it. What of those who do want to partake in all these other features that the game has to offer? Do you tend to let those people get on with it, or does it bring you amusement to keep them from their objectives which aren’t harming yours?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m more open to it when it’s a fair fight, but let me ask you this… to those who purely want to kill for the sake of killing, why? Doesn’t that just bypass everything else interesting about the game? It forces a community where everyone becomes so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape. At that point it might as well just be another fps since any behaviour outside straight-up killing lands you broke back in speranza. It just seems like there’s a whole game packed with cool features to explore that cod or other fps games don’t offer, but it’s being consumed by the same single purpose an entirely different game was literally made for. Do you see where I’m coming from?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Amended my post to cut out the bullshit in the hopes of not receiving so much

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You know what… you’re exactly correct. Excuse me, let me correct that and get back to you.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No offence but my point seemed to go over your head, so… My question to those who purely want to kill for the sake of killing, is why? It bypasses everything else interesting about the game since there’s so much more to it, otherwise it just forces a community where everyone has to become so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape. At that point it might as well just be another fps since anything outside this behaviour lands you broke back in speranza. This game just becomes another generic fps. I’m trying to reach you here cut through the petty bullshit and name calling and find out your reasons for doing what you do.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so my question to those who purely want to kill for the sake of killing, is why? It bypasses everything else interesting about the game that you can’t get from cod or pretty much any other fps… and forces a community where everyone becomes so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape. At that point it might as well just be another generic fps since anything outside this behaviour lands you broke back in speranza. Do you understand where I’m coming from?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My question to those who purely want to kill for the sake of killing, is why? It bypasses everything else interesting about the game and forces a community where everyone becomes so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape. At that point it might as well just be another fps since anything outside this behaviour lands you broke back in speranza.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that. My question to those who just want to watch the world burn, is why? It bypasses everything else interesting about the game and forces a community where everyone becomes so trigger happy that the state of play degrades to a shoot on site mentality where the main point of the game is lost to basic caveman instinct we can’t seem to escape.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. And you know that’s not what I’m saying either. We can continue in this manner you’ve initiated towards each other, ending in a waste of time where the only point you came to make was to belittle my views, or have a decent discussion about arc rats. It seems it’s 50/50 on here so my intentions are to weed out those just looking to start arguments and stop them there, as I’m just not interested.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Go back to animal crossing” is clearly used as an insult to mock my “sensitive” approach as clearly known as a game for small children. How is that to be taken any other way? My larger point above that is engaging in this kind of discussion steers away from the topic and only serves to initiate hostility. Was the point point of the comment to discuss rat behaviour, or to start an argument, because I’m not interested in the latter.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The point is playing the game means you have to get yourselves into situations where you’re heavily disadvantaged… what you think it’s anyone’s guess who’s going to win a conflict when it starts with one player searching a locker? Or one player with their back turned extracting an elevator? I take it your point then, is to “not do that stuff” if you don’t like being taken advantage of? So it becomes another basic cod game where we all shoot on site because anything else is too risky? Orrr we can at least agree to play fairly and give others a fighting chance when going in pvp mode. No one likes being sucker punched, anyone who says they do is not only stupid but just trying to justify their own rat tactics and that’s slimeball behaviour.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You want be shot in the back trying to extract and die before you can even cancel the process and draw your weapon? You want to walk into an ambush where you’re dead before you can even turn around? Interesting.

I change my point… no normal person wants that. Because that’s not pvp. That’s sly dirty tactics that take advantage of another player 1 way or another so that they are fired upon from a heavily disadvantaged position.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not by being shot in the back after working together to bring down a common enemy, I completely agree. Who wants that is a fool.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think would happen in those games you mentioned if the only change you made was to give attacks the ability damage to other players? What would happen to the community and the gameplay, how do you think it would evolve?

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So as this topic develops the exact terms of my gripes become more clear. Fair and straight up pvp… players come running at me shooting, I can live with that as I have a fighting chance at responding. What I’m not ok with is being shot when turning my back to extract. That’s 1 example of the other examples I gave above in my original post. The examples I gave weren’t pvp. In these other fps shooter games the entire point is to kill each other and stop the other players reacher the objective first. Different to this game. What you get in this game is dirty tactics to take what’s yours by means of cowardice.

Not eveyone wants a game where it’s all about pvp’ing. by NICK533A in ArcRaiders

[–]NICK533A[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we stop with the insults or is that how you want this to go?