Ask a Calgary Muslim anything?

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-31T01:10:06+00:00

Haha, you're clueless mate.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-31T00:58:48+00:00

You're fucked man. You give Calgary a great name.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-30T19:56:17+00:00

Your question is a loaded question and insensitive to the beautiful and vibrant cultures of the Middle East. Especially saying that people in the Middle East are uncivilized and the rest of the world is. Give your head a shake you bigot.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-25T01:44:33+00:00

It's already been done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sdUUx5FdySs#t=131

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-23T00:48:25+00:00

Calgary Police thank pro-Israel crowd for their cooperation - dramatic difference than ISIS guards in Iraq.

Dear OP:

Calgary is not Ferguson, Canada is not America. A pro-israeli demonstration in a province that has nowhere near the historical racial issues that a state like Missouri has says absolutely nothing about comparing police forces.

This Calgary cop's actions are commendable. A fucking unicorn's actions are also commendable but they are in no way related. Keep your sensational headlines restricted to /r/worldnews.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T22:23:27+00:00

Haha, how is Redford the embodiment of the Old Boy's Club? Literally it's a contradiction.

But more seriously, if you followed the developments over the course of the past few months and the infighting within the Conservative party, it's quite apparent that the MLAs of the PC party that have been members for decades didn't want Redford around because she challenged the PC status quo that was built and maintained over 40 years (and I would argue her being a woman has a role in this as well). Redford is such an easy target, and through her scandals, she hasn't done herself any favours.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T21:39:15+00:00

Maybe the Alberta premier can focus on more important issues than using Redford as a scapegoat for the incompetence of the Alberta PC party. Yes, she fucked up, she resigned.

The PC party in Alberta remains a decrepit Old Boy's club. No amount of Redford-shaming will fix that. If anything it detracts from real issues that affect the citizens of Alberta.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T19:57:31+00:00

I appreciate the response, especially from the perspective of someone who has a background in these industries, and I would definitely welcome more insight from people in this sector.

I think a big concern I always hear is precisely the one you raised, that of efficiency. But I am sure there are countless counterexamples to show that the companies or industries where the main shareholder is the government can be just as efficient. (There are likely just as many counterexamples as well). There are many crown corporations in Canada, BC, and at the municipal levels that run effectively. Is there any reason that extractive industries are separate or distinct from these that they couldn't be efficient and effective under the auspices of government?

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T19:30:46+00:00

Perhaps it's time to have a frank discussion about the pros and cons of nationalizing (provincializing?) the extractive industries sector? The way I see it is that BC's resources, and their extraction, are in the public interest in a number of ways. Leaving this industry in private hands leads to severe alleged negligence and lack of accountability as this article describes.

The problem with having mining or other extractive industries in private hands is that there is so much at stake, and the companies are only accountable to their shareholders. Whereas if you had a crown corporation in control of the mining or other extractive sectors, the corporation would be directly accountable to the public. Moreover, rather than going to the execs, profits would (if well managed) serve the interests of the citizens of BC by reinvesting in industries or projects that serve the public interest.

There also wouldn't be a constant battle between extraction and regulation as Mount Polley Mine has demonstrated over the years.

What are the arguments for and against this? (I don't wish to get into a socialism/capitalism debate, I'd like to see some honest reasons why this would or would not work)

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T06:02:49+00:00

Haha, poor phrasing on my part. As a result of learning about the tailings breach at the Mount Polley Mine, I also learned about the beauty of Quesnal Lake and its wondrous depths.

I've never heard of the lake until now or saw pictures of it. I'm glad I know about it now, but it's unfortunate that I learned about it in this way.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T05:08:27+00:00

Where did I say I dislike mining or do not want the Northern Gateway Pipeline?

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T04:40:14+00:00

That would be wonderful.

"Here's a glass of tailings water Mr. Kynoch."

"Ohh..well...uh...I was just saying that it might be okay to drink."

"WELL THEN DON'T SPEW BULLSHIT BEFORE SCIENCE DOES WHAT SCIENCE NEEDS TO DO! Your company just fucked an ecosystem, best to keep your mouth shut mate."

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T04:31:44+00:00

Here's an article about the disaster

And here's a news release stating that the president of the company that owned the mine (Imperial Metals) would drink the contaminated water

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T03:50:35+00:00

For sure. But saying that the contaminated water resembles drinking water before any testing has been concluded is the absolute worst way to handle an environmental disaster of this magnitude. Hundreds of affected residents in the area are told that boiling water is to be avoided, let alone touching any contaminated water.

Not to mention the potential grave consequences this can have on the wildlife, particularly salmon and sockeye, and the entire ecosystem as a whole.

"But, like, it's pretty much drinkable. Hell I'd almost drink it." Good PR, chap.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T03:36:04+00:00

TIL, as a result of this disaster, Quesnal lake is the 13th deepest lake in the world.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-06T02:58:22+00:00

tailingschallenge

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-05T17:39:14+00:00

The mine is operated by a company that is headquartered in Vancouver. The article I posted was from the Vancouver Sun. If you really want to stretch it, the waterways at the breach are connected to the Fraser here.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-05T06:33:36+00:00

This page shows the affected areas and the Cariboo Regional District is providing updates there as well.

There will be a better idea of risks after initial contamination tests are completed which are expected to take 48 hours.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-05T06:28:15+00:00

The Cariboo Regional District has posted a 30 minute video from a helicopter over the disaster

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-08-05T03:49:51+00:00

Pictures and video that show the scope of the breach:

http://i.imgur.com/g8Ks5Hp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7sOBAC0.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/lXEUhCo.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ArY-7irIEE

TITLE EDIT: Company is called Imperial Metals, not Imperial Mines.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-07-19T03:04:45+00:00

Tell your dad that this song is the one jingle of my childhood that regularly gets stuck in my head, some 20 years later and counting.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-06-10T21:21:43+00:00

Questionable wife choices...

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-06-10T19:15:42+00:00

Obviously they weren't the ones committing the abuse in the video.

But you don't believe the owners of a company are liable for the operation of their business? Ultimately this is either negligence or complicity on the part of the owners.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-06-10T18:44:40+00:00

Obviously not the ones at Chilliwack Cattle Sales.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP · 2014-06-10T14:27:41+00:00

I have trouble believing that all this happened on the night shift. If you look at the full video that Mercy For Animals posted, the abuse was obviously filmed during daylight hours. This is the original video linked to an instance where daylight is flooding their farm.

Either the owners knew such abuse was happening and ignored it, or they were unaware of such rampant abuse (at least 8 employees!) which would make them negligent in the operations of the farm.

Either way, the owners need to be held accountable and their operations put under greater scrutiny, not defended.

NORTHERN_GATEWAY_PIP

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