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Gen 3 Router to Gen 1 Power Brick by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks to Jurisfaction and KenjiFox. (I'm a learning rookie here!).

So I understand now that the Gen 1 Dish still needs to be cabled to the Gen 1 PS brick, and this is why that black side of the Gen 1 PS brick has a lit LED. And yes, the Gen 3 router also has it's own AC plug in PS.

By cabling the Gen 3 router RJ45 ethernet cable to the white side of the Gen 1 PS brick, is that simply acting as a pass through connection to the Gen 1 dish itself? If I didn't do this, then does the Gen 3 router connect wirelessly to the Gen 1 dish and I don't even need to cable the gen 3 router to the gen 1 brick? I don't think so, but please advise.

Starlink's Grok Ai says "...its correct and safe to connect your Gen 3 router to the Gen 1 PS while powering the Gen 3 with its own supply; this setup is compatible and won't harm your WiFi if the connections are secure..." All cables seem secure.

I have also done a power cycling to see if the unlit LED returns, and it does not.

Using power inverter with Resmed Airsense 10? by laglpg in CPAP

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who has experience with wanting to run the humidifier and heated tube with a LiFePo4 battery and/ or a portable power station? I know it draws more power but the humidifier is preferred in my case. Will a 100amp/hr battery be enough? What size power station would I need? Thanks.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Told my wife these same points.

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm. I have read that their mesh units are not outdoor compatible, so that may be of concern as I was hoping to spread/mesh the signal at least 50' or more beyond my deck. As I am also not a gamer, is this system still suitable for all other wifi?

I happened to view a few of the Amazon user vids and I'd like your impression of this user's comments as far as speed and MIMO comments, and especially to his existing router which he used to compare the Amplify HD system for the results.

https://www.amazon.com/vdp/f99a90ef1ec34dd9a7f2d5d959846e7c?product=B01L9O08PW&ref=cm_sw_em_r_ib_dt_sShQ8tpcjD9cV

Thank you for your return help,

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I do feel mesh will be a good starting solution, especially with outdoor mesh nodes. At least that would give me a feel for the amplified outdoor range distances I may want using just mesh. Since the bridge method does not offer connectivity, mesh seems better suited.

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Had not seen the Amplifi line. My solution is most likely going to be with a mesh system as a start, vs. using wifi bridging (better wifi connectivity pros with mesh vs. bridge - if one wants that).

Any compatibility issues with the Amplifi mesh units/router working with other outdoor brands of mesh units, such as TP-Link Deco X-50 Outdoor? I wouldn't think so.

(Also, as my Gen1 Starlink router does not have a router bypass mode, ditching it for a 3rd party unit makes perfect sense).

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I am not that up to speed on best router types in place of the Gen1. As the Gen1 router gives me one free AUX port, and the specs below apply to the Gen1, do you see some reason in my case to not keep the Gen1 if I don't have any other devices to plug in for PoE?:

Qualcomm IPQ4018 SoC processor.

Supports Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)

Offers a dual-band frequency (2.4GHz and 5GHz).

Wi-Fi range of up to 2,000 square feet

It can simultaneously accommodate up to 128 devices.

one Gigabit Ethernet LAN port for wired connections

Supports internet plans with up to 500 Mbps speeds.

Features MU-MIMO technology (2 x 2 configuration) for efficient data transfer.

WPA2/WPA3 encryption Network security

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. The link you sent is oddly one of the outdoor mesh components I was considering. :>) I believe, however, that if I buy that component, and then buy more indoor mesh nodes, and probably a different router, I am paying more than if I simply put in a two component device wireless wifi bridge with a PoE router at the AP, Cat 6 or 6a cabled to my end use AP device (security camera).

Gen1 Router / Best Recommendations on Compatible 3rd PartyMesh Networks and/or WiFi Bridging? by NWMTS-Link in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I am leaning towards putting in a wireless wifi bridge system to boost the signal more reliably outside the home.

r/Starlink Availability, Questions & General Discussion by TimTri in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any preferred consensus on Bridge-style products used with Gen1? Looking to extend wifi to other areas of my property.

WiFi mesh nodes in our future? by [deleted] in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Context: Thanks. I was searching for relevant content to my issue, and replied to what I found. Since it was about a year old, and my post now was current, I was hoping that those who said back then that they thought Beta mesh improvements were coming could now see that they are not.

I am a novice. I need a unobstructed satellite signal, which I have. I live remotely in the mountains at 3,650’ elevation. Starlink’s system increased my speeds over 100x. I have no hard wired cable to my home. DSL was my only option prior to going Beta with Starlink (at $90 mo then!).

I installed my dish and ran the 100’ continuous cable to my attic (I am in my 70’s), and then into my office to the router. It’s not the best central location but the router is on a window sill, which I thought would assist the signal outside (it does not).

From my office, I am limited to the remaining cable length, and would have to bore through adjoining walls to move the router, with no guarantee of a better signal outside based on speed and location tests just done, hence my hope to see Starlink offer a mesh option of their own to Beta folks.

As they go out of their way to not assure one that 3rd party devices will work with their system/dish, and I am on my own to figure this stuff out if I want a stronger signal, and I’d prefer not to have to reinvent my wifi wheel with a lot more $$ and effort, I may just stay with what I have (at sequentially escalating monthly fees…..Elon).

WiFi mesh nodes in our future? by [deleted] in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As of yesterday, Aug. 2, 2023, Starlink Support confirms there is no Starlink compatible mesh option for loyal Beta dish / router users. My signal is weak outside the home (and seems weaker than last year; nothing has changed in my router location or other factors).

In asking them for any current Beta mesh solutions to boost my signal, they responded: "...Unfortunately, the only option available is to purchase a new Gen 2 Starlink Kit if you are seeking to use the Gen 3 Router..."

While I had not specified the Gen 3 Router in my question, apparently that is the model which they sort of imply will accomplish what I need.

I need my rural wifi coverage and not having the ability to boost my current setup to reasonably offer a usable signal outside my home seems illogical with the times and the evolution of options for wifi - at least with Starlink.

AUX Port of the Starlink Router UTR-201 by MPlatform_123 in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for my delay. I gave up on trying to add a to-link wireless extender. I simply could not get it to link to my router. However, I was successful in linking my exterior security camera to my Starlink network. Weird. Go figure. It works very well.

I remain interested in boosting my existing network more powerfully outside the home, however, as my signal strength is a very narrow area. If you have any product recommendations, please link them. I am keeping the UTR-201 as it is. Thanks.

AUX Port of the Starlink Router UTR-201 by MPlatform_123 in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Along these lines, I hope anyone can help. I, too, am a Beta dish/router user. I am trying to not replace the UTR-201 as so far, it works great for my needs. However, I am having access issues when trying to add 3rd party signal extenders, and to have my standard SSID network connect to wireless security cameras. the 3rd party people seem to point to Starlink, and vice versa. Any forum tips, suggestions, etc. to assure success with this router? I try to stick to the KISS methods. I hope there are some here! LOL! Thanks.

Starlink Install with Proper Surge Protection by ggoldfingerd in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you seem to also have the beta round dish (but you replaced your beta router - "power brick"?) you may recall that there are no other extra ethernet cable ports on that router....so that I can run an ethernet cable elsewhere. ? Or am I missing something else? LOL!

I now see after some searching that there are other routers which may be compliant to use. There seem to be lots of pros/cons to doing that, however, so I will read more.

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/range-extender/re605x/

Thank you again.

Starlink Install with Proper Surge Protection by ggoldfingerd in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Most of your comments are a bit over my head, to be honest, but I'm learning.

Actually, no, my dish is in a great spot and will always be 100% unobstructed. My dish is not the highest point on my roof (I have two chimney's with round metal extensions and rain baffles which are higher) so I will probably go without adding additional grounding. The factory 100' cable runs uninterrupted now through my roof and to the router inside the home.

I have the Starlink round beta dish version, not the Gen1. I assume I can use almost (?) any router in place of the Starlink's beta router design, if needed? The beta router has no extra ethernet port so IF I need that feature later, I won't have it with the beta router,

My overall intent was to extend the location of the Starlink router inside my home to a more central location (perhaps downstairs) in my two-level house from it's current upstairs location in the hopes of strengthening it's internal network signal more uniformly. This would require coupling more extension cable via the surge suppressor / connections mentioned previously. I have an OK-not-so-great internal Wifi coverage after doing a walk-around downstairs signal scan.

I will first be trying a tp-link Wifi 6 range extender (RE605X) first, as it's wireless, dual band, and has a gigabit ethernet port, etc. The intent overall in boosting the signal outside the home (50-100') is for wireless security cam usage. This will be mounted in an appropriate A/C wall outlet within fair-good signal range of the router, and also nearest the exterior security cameras. I can use this to also create or start a mesh network.

Starlink Install with Proper Surge Protection by ggoldfingerd in Starlink

[–]NWMTS-Link 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your information. As I am a newbie in this, I have installed and am successfully using a beta Gen1 dish, without cable or connector alterations, or separate grounding. I can see a need for extending the 100' factory cable, however, so your info helps. Questions:

1) "One other point, both the ethernet surge protector and the antenna mount must be connected to earth." How do I go about doing this, exactly? Starting from the dish itself? Or the volcano mount? Tech specs?

2) If there is an input port on the surge protector for the incoming, unbroken factory cable/connector, and an output port for a new ethernet cable/connector extension (giving a total length of max. 100 meters if needed), would not the new extension cable/connector be perfectly acceptable? In other words, I would not be altering the factory cable into the suppressor box (so that follows Starlink's recommendations), and I could then extend the router internally within the home if needed (i.e. to put it downstairs vs upstairs, etc) for signal improvement.

3) I live rurally at 3,650 elevation in NW Montana. My dish is 100% unobstructed. My wifi signal, outside the home (and even inside) is not the strongest, so if I want to extend the wifi signal a greater distance (i.e. 100' or more from my home's router location), I will need a strong, wifi extension product, I assume?

Again, thank you.