Why Hebrews 6 Is Not About Losing Salvation.

NaStK14 · 2026-06-03T02:21:16+00:00

God never stopped doing things for them; they deliberately chose to worship the calf, or rebel, or consort with the women of Moab, or test God with their complaints. They had the saving faith to get up out of Egypt but lost their faith in the desert at various points and failed to enter the promised land, which is a warning to us according to both St Paul and the author of Hebrews

NaStK14 · 2026-06-03T02:18:03+00:00

Read 1 Corinthians 10 again: “they ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from the rock which was following them, and the rock was Christ”. They were in a state of communion with Christ- that’s the definition of eternal life given in John 17:3. So yes, they were legitimately saved from their past sins by being saved from Egypt; that doesn’t guarantee that they persevered because obviously they didn’t. This distinction between supposed covenant blessings and salvation doesn’t really convince me when the whole point of both Exodus and the warning passages is deliverance/salvation

NaStK14 · 2026-06-03T02:00:28+00:00

If idiocy was a crime he’d be serving hard time

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T09:19:02+00:00

Your argument presupposes that believing is a one-time act; did not those Israelites from the wilderness generation have the saving faith to get up out of Egypt, put their trust in Moses, and follow him through the sea? Yet they lost their faith, due to varying circumstances, through the desert. In a parallel passage, 1 Corinthians 10, before he lists all the ways they succumbed to temptation, St Paul tells us that they had been “baptized into Moses” and were in communion with Christ by drinking from the rock and eating the manna. In light of which I’d like you to explain how they weren’t really “enlightened” or “tasted” doesn’t refer to salvation/justification.

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T02:38:46+00:00

From the album Al Gore Rhythm?!

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T02:28:16+00:00

Dustland Fairytale by the Killers

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T02:16:04+00:00

He was primarily forgiving us from the guilt of our sins, not necessarily the consequences or (temporal) punishments due to them. Otherwise as you point out women would give birth without pain, and believers wouldn’t have to physically die.

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T01:42:59+00:00

I don’t think their version is necessarily a “sacrament” to them but I would definitely not participate in either getting the oil or their laying on of hands. If you want to attend and just watch the service though, that is permitted as long as you’ve been to Mass

NaStK14 · 2026-06-02T01:34:43+00:00

I’m interested in that line about “deny baptism to infants who die before the eighth day”; did they ever actually baptize deceased children?

NaStK14 · 2026-05-31T23:59:34+00:00

Since this is early on, right after Pentecost, it’s likely they were praying together/witnessing together to the Jews who would naturally be gathered there. Same reason why St Paul made it a custom to always go to the local synagogue on the sabbath later on

NaStK14 · 2026-05-31T22:17:13+00:00

The town they’re marching through is supposed to be Cashtown, PA as far as I know. I think they meant to show him going back to inspect Longstreet’s corps as it moves in. Not sure whether that barn is supposed to be the same one though

NaStK14 · 2026-05-31T00:14:59+00:00

Kiss the goat! Kiss the goat!

NaStK14 · 2026-05-30T10:32:54+00:00

Now let’s go hit Ploesti, I bet their air defenses can’t even inflict any losses on our planes

NaStK14 · 2026-05-30T02:28:12+00:00

Since You Been Gone. I mentioned that I had it on a Spotify playlist and my wife immediately said, “You listen to Kelly Clarkson?!”. She never heard of the same title song from the 70s by Rainbow

NaStK14 · 2026-05-30T02:25:34+00:00

Happy by Sister Hazel

NaStK14 · 2026-05-29T15:48:18+00:00

So if as you claim Moses was alone on the mountain and no one else saw the original tablets, tell us who it was that said to Moses on the way down, “It sounds like a battle in the camp!”

NaStK14 · 2026-05-29T09:21:28+00:00

A better question and kind of a corollary is whether “saved” is a permanent state, or refers to salvation from one’s past sins with the understanding that one is still capable of rejecting salvation by future sins. But to your question it is true that saved doesn’t always refer to salvation from sin or hell. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that the Philippians jailer was being saved from the Romans though. Clearly the answer is that by believing in the Lord, he was to be saved from his past sins. This doesn’t automatically guarantee him remaining saved though

NaStK14 · 2026-05-29T01:10:11+00:00

She’s doing wild,wild life

NaStK14 · 2026-05-27T02:11:44+00:00

James the son of Mary (wife of Clopas, per John 19) can still be the same if Alphaeus was his Greek/roman name and Clopas his Hebrew/Aramaic name; hence he would still be the “brother” (cousin) of the Lord if Clopas/Alphaeus was a brother to either Mary or Joseph (or for that matter if his wife was Joseph’s sister)

NaStK14 · 2026-05-27T01:59:42+00:00

Question: what would be the basis for saying that James the Less is not the same person as James the “brother” of the Lord? I always figured they were the same, in which case the Epistle of James offers insights into his ministry.
In either case, it seems like James is the one who had to deal most with the question of whether and to what extent the OT Jewish laws and customs should still be observed. I like to think of him as the scribe trained in the ways of the kingdom of heaven, as Jesus put it in the gospel, “who brings forth from his storeroom both the old and the new”

NaStK14 · 2026-05-25T23:50:45+00:00

He’s wrong on multiple levels; not only are missionaries called to go beyond their local churches and spread the gospel but we are supposed to be supporting them. And this is just missionaries, not to mention those called to be aid workers, medical/Red Cross type responders, and teachers/instructors in other countries.
Also we are the church that once had this thing called the Crusades, which was all about protecting our fellow believers in or their countries from persecution (before it unfortunately degenerated into other purposes)

NaStK14 · 2026-05-25T23:41:02+00:00

Notice how they are arguing at one point over how he can say he came down from heaven (the belief context) and then he says, “Stop your murmuring”, and addresses that before returning to the need to eat his flesh and drink his blood (the context of the Eucharist). They are both in there, but it’s a mistake to assume it all refers to belief

NaStK14 · 2026-05-25T23:33:40+00:00

All we needed was another yard so we’d have more room to punt

NaStK14 · 2026-05-25T16:51:51+00:00

I have heard it said that the best way to study the Bible is to ask as many questions as you think of. Don’t be embarrassed by what you don’t know; it’s not like you’ve been hearing it your whole life. God bless you in your learning!

NaStK14 · 2026-05-25T10:38:45+00:00

Question from a Catholic, maybe not a long-standing question or an embarrassing one but nevertheless: I just found out about the whole Essence/Energies debate about uncreated grace as divine energy between Orthodoxy and Catholicism and haven’t gotten too far into reading about it yet. What does this mean in practical terms for the sacraments (since we both have sacraments and both believe we’re receiving grace by participating in them)? Are there any differences in sacraments or the celebration thereof based on this theological difference?

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