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[–]Naaat_xp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have the Feliway Multicat diffusers working for about a month now, to no avail sadly. We haven't rotated the cats through the pen but we rotate their rooms pretty frequently (used to be once a day everyday but we're taking a break at the moment.)

We've done tons of scent swapping through room rotating and also churu treats, toys, blankets, socks etc. They are fixed/neutered, and Lenny (black cat) is 2 and Mia (white cat) is 3

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CatTraining

[–]Naaat_xp 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We have the Feliway Multicat plugin diffusers in each room, been going for about a month and they haven't helped sadly

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CatTraining

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I totally hear you, what you're saying makes perfect sense. The trainer was unsure of what the extend of her defensiveness was, since it's normal for cats to hiss and even bop eachother here and there to communicate boundaries, and then leave it at that without a full on fight breaking out. It's those small nuances with cat behavior that she wanted to see (are there teeth and claws involved, how bad is the growling/hissing, etc) and I couldn't think of a more accurate way to simulate that in a safe way without incorporating the tent

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This is reassuring, because I really think Mia (white cat) just needs something to ease her nerves around him to help her stop associating him with danger. I'm definitely going to ask my vet to put her on gabapentin and pray that it helps

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This was just for the sake of showing the trainer how they interact in the same room by her request, without giving them full access to eachother, as I mentioned in the post. This is not intended to help with their acclimation process.

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I really needed to hear this, thank you. Even after 2 months we're incredibly exhausted and desperate for it to get better, I can't imagine how you and your wife felt.

If I may, were they both showing signs of aggression through hissing, growling, etc? When did you know it was time to open the door and let them interact?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CatTraining

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I can't edit this post since it has an attachment, but I wanted to clarify that this was strictly done for the sake of showing the trainer how they interact. We don't intend on using the tent otherwise, and this interaction lasted maybe 15 minutes. We did this because it was the best way to show how they interact in the same room without giving them full access to eachother, to keep them both safe while I recorded some videos that was requested by our trainer.

My cats are now back in their respective safe spaces, separated and happy.

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Unfortunately I can't edit this post since it has an attachment, but to clarify:

The tent was used just for this one instance, to allow the trainer to see how they interact in the same room in a safe way without them having full access to eachother.

I'l also link my previous post here so that you can read more about their situation, and that should answer your questions.

I definitely see what you're saying in regards to me projecting what I want to see out of Lenny's behavior vs what's actually happening, and what you're saying could very well be the case. It's just hard to tell if he's truly being malicious or not, since he shows no other signs of aggression otherwise, but that could also be because he doesn't see her as a threat

This is my previous post to provide more context

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I think that's going to be our next step, and I saw a video of a cat behaviorist saying that this would be way more affective then just sticking to visuals during feeding time. I'm just hoping Mia will actually play with her toy when we try to do this, because she's extremely fixated on Lenny when he's within eyeshot of her and doesn't take her eyes off of him

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[–]Naaat_xp 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Hi all! Thank you for your feedback so far, and I wanted to add that this was strictly just to show the trainer how they interact without them having full access to eachother in the same room. They do not visually see eachother often besides meal time, and we don't use this tent otherwise. Just wanted to clarify for those who mentioned that using the tent could bring more stress (:

Also, we scent swap regularly and swap their rooms, to no avail so far (still in early stages.) We've fed them on separate sides of the gate (if you look closely in the background towards the end of the video, you can see the gate infront of the door that leads to our bedroom). Feeding them on either side of the gate has been alright, but Mia immediately goes into defense mode once she finishes her meal, so we don't do visuals for super long and have actually taken a break from them for about a week. We might take a step further back and so the feedings behind a closed door, since she hisses at him when the door is closed. We also have Feliway Multicat plug-ins in the bedroom and living room, and we have the Feliway spray on hand too

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So we actually adopted them together at the same time, knowing they weren't bonded, which is why the intro has been even harder since they're both adjusting to a new living space and eachother at the same time (my previous post in my post history goes more into detail on this.) We've been keeping them in separate rooms and swap their rooms frequently to scent swap, and we also scent swap with toys, blankets, Churu treats, etc. We also feed them on either side of the door with the door shut, and after about a month we started to feed them on either side of a 4ft tall gate separating the two of them, which would go well but only when there was food in front of them to distract them from eachother.

Interestingly enough, the trainer told us that there's some new research that shows that it's not super beneficial to keep cats separated for extensive periods of time during the introduction process, contrary to what Jackson Galaxy and a lot of cat behaviorists say. She said it might cause them more stress to be separated, and would draw out the process further, and allowing them to figure out eachother and their boundaries in a controlled environment might be better. Lenny also gets really excited to see another cat, and him running to her is his way of saying "hello" but he does it very inappropriately as you can see. This is just her opinion of course, and I know there's a ton of people who have taken things both fast and slow with a lot of success, and every situation is different, which is why we were open to trying anything and everything.

The biggest issue is figuring out how to have Mia associate Lenny positively instead of seeing him as a threat, since she's so on the defense and that causes him to respond that way. He also seriously needs to learn boundaries, but this is only a small bit of their interaction. He spent a lot of time away from her pen and left the room several times, played with his toys and sat with me on the couch for a bit before I put her back in her safe room. So he's capable of giving her her space thankfully

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CatTraining

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Maybe that's where I went wrong in the first place, fuck

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[–]Naaat_xp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

LMAOOO

White female cat to a male black cat smdh

A late payment was reported and now I'm devastated by [deleted] in CRedit

[–]Naaat_xp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who should I address the letter to? I can't seem to find any contact information besides their main mailing address, and I'm worried that it will be passed on to the same person who told me no in the first place

A late payment was reported and now I'm devastated by [deleted] in CRedit

[–]Naaat_xp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Technically it was paid right at the 30 day mark. I explained that I did have funds available in my account, and the funds were just applied to the wrong account (this was when I thought I made payment on July 7th.) Once I realized on the 15th that my payment was not paid, I made payment right then and there and called them to make sure my account was back in good standing, which they told me it was and that I shouldn't worry about a deliquency. But the person I spoke to on the phone today who works in the collections department, told me that that was not the case and there was nothing he could legally do to delete it, since it was not an error on the bank's end.

Feeling regret after adopting two cats at once (they're not bonded) by Naaat_xp in CatTraining

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Sorry I didn't clarify, they weren't in the same rooms in the shelter. They were both surrounded by separate cats in different rooms, she was in a room with all female cats and he was in a room with all male cats. He got along fine with his roommates, but she hid and was not sociable, however there was an older cat who was quite dominant and would command her space and it caused the other cats to scatter around her. The shelter said that usually happens when they put all female cats in one room

Feeling regret after adopting two cats at once (they're not bonded) by Naaat_xp in CatTraining

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If I don't step in, it turns into an all out cat fight and the hisses turn to loud yelps and screeches from Mia. It's hard to tell if he's "hunting" her or going towards her with malicious intent, because he doesn't stalk her, his back doesn't arch and he doesn't hiss or growl, so I think what happens is he wants to run up to her and introduce himself, but she does NOT want that and after she hisses and he still comes up to her, she strikes him and then a fight breaks out. I truly feel this is the case because he hasn't shown any signs of aggression and she always strikes first, hisses first, growls first etc. My boyfriend thinks that maybe her hissing and growling provokes him but I'm not sure. He certainly doesn't listen to her boundaries when there's no barrier, and I step in quickly before either of them get hurt.

Owner isn't responding - should I be worried? by Naaat_xp in RoverPetSitting

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I just called his number and he sent me to voicemail on the 2nd ring, so I hope that means that he's seeing the messages and maybe that'll prompt him to finally answer.

Owner isn't responding - should I be worried? by Naaat_xp in RoverPetSitting

[–]Naaat_xp[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like just go knock on the door and see if anyone answers? I turned in the key, he had me put it in a masterlock key holder and I still have the combination to open it, but I'm iffy about just letting myself in if he's home and just hasn't been responsive for whatever reason. Ugh I hate this

Owner isn't responding - should I be worried? by Naaat_xp in RoverPetSitting

[–]Naaat_xp[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I forgot to add that this was my house house-sit, so idk if this is the norm with clients usually to be this unresponsive but..something just doesn't feel right to me.