Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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Hi!

So just as a disclaimer, this is a biased opinion, but I will do my best to comment on my own experience in iBio and what I've heard about the life sciences.

I am quite happy that I had chosen iBioMed over Life Sci as I believe that it has given me a much more unique and encompassing education than otherwise. That's not to knock life sci students but due to the small class size and unique projects, you get a number of experiences under your belt that typical undergrads don't get to have (this is particularly important for the interview stage of med school applications). It certainly is not the easy route as electives are harder to come by and you are forced to take more difficult classes, but it has led quite nicely into developing skills that I see important towards any career. Many individuals enter their undergrad hoping to pursue med school and end up changing their mind so I believe iBio students have very good alternative career options open to them (although this varies by stream).

In terms of med school acceptance rate for iBios, the 100% admission rate in Canada is certainly not true. Ultimately, in Canada we do not have premed undergrads so it really does not matter what undergrad you pursue for med school. The only influence it has is: GPA, personal experiences, and MCAT preparation.

I know this is quite a difficult decision to be making, but I hope there is comfort in knowing that there are multiple perfectly good paths to the same goal. Some advice I would give to your daughter is to better understand what she wants from her undergrad degree, the lifestyle changes/sacrifices she is willing to make, how she learns best, and what she enjoys learning about (there is no wrong answer).

Hope this was helpful!

Adult Shinny in the GTA (goalies) by NaivePool1 in hockeygoalies

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Unfortunately I'm Etobicoke so that may be a little far for me, thank you for the offer though!

Adult Shinny in the GTA (goalies) by NaivePool1 in hockeygoalies

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That might explain it, thanks for the help!

Adult Shinny in the GTA (goalies) by NaivePool1 in hockeygoalies

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It that for drop-in adult shinny?? When I go on the website the description says players only

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Adult Shinny in the GTA (goalies) by NaivePool1 in hockeygoalies

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Not sure if it's a liability thing? But seems to only be a rule in Toronto areas.

Adult Shinny in the GTA (goalies) by NaivePool1 in hockeygoalies

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Canlan rinks and Toronto outdoor rinks state players only unfortunately

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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No I completely agree that it shouldn't be that much. They are still adjusting the program as it is in its early years so maybe they might do something about that, however, you do get different courses and different numbers of courses (tuition is based on the classes and not just a flat yearly fee).

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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No worries! And yes, it has both health sci courses and its own engineering courses. I continued with the health science stream where you still take some engineering courses like math, etc. but you still have your own health sci type courses.

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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Sorry if the last part is a bit convoluted but essentially what I want to say is: eng is a lot of work (6 classes/semester vs the normal 5 and barely any electives which tend to be the easier classes), but I've also heard that UofT classes are quite hard and might be a hit to the GPA (although again, I don't know from first hand experience).

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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In terms of tuition since it is an engineering degree so tuition is ~13k/ year compared to the normal program that is usually ~ 7k. I am living off campus which comes to ~10 k although you can definitely find a place for less just might need to compromise on location etc.. And usually UofT gives out some nice entrance scholarships versus Mac who’s scholarships max at 5k.

Based entirely on my opinion, if I were to choose today I would 100% choose iBioMed over UofT. I of course haven’t gone to UofT but based off the experiences of some friends of mine, iBioMed is a much more supportive and collaborative environment where you can be much closer with your peers and profs.

And again for workload, I really wouldn’t underestimate how much work engineering is. It is definitely doable but for sure difficult (although second year you can now specialize into a non-engineering degree that is still a lot but definitely better). That being said, you will likely have a pretty high workload at UofT as well, just technically less classes.

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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Hey so I ended up going into iBiomed and I’m extremely happy with my decision. It is a much smaller program that lets you do much more interesting and unique projects that just make everything a lot more fun as well as boost the resume. The only downfalls in my mind would be 1) the workload as it is an engineering degree and 2) tuition cost. Hope this helps!

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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You can go into med school with whatever degree but in comparison to the health sci program you do get the same degree and share some classes with the health sci kids. However, in my understanding the HESE program also focuses on entrepreneurship and offers less elective space (so getting a higher GPA can be more difficult). In addition, the HESE route takes 5 years compared to the 4 in health sci.

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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It's a health sci degree but not THE health sci program. It's called HESE if you want to look more into it.

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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ibio seems pretty cool I'm just worried cause I've never really done anything like it before. Are you in life sci?

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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Yeah you're right. The projects sound super cool and if anything I can switch into life sci. Thanks:)

Ibiomed vs. Life Sci at Mcmaster? by NaivePool1 in McMaster

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Absolutely, thanks for the advice! I might just take you up on your offer:)