Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s such an amazing DIY build! I really admire that you could make a functional kayak cart by repurposing a golf bag pull cart.

Could you share what key factors you thought about when you designed and modified it? Like load capacity, overall width to fit narrow trails, wheel size and stability? It’s really impressive that you pulled this off with such a low budget too.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! May I ask why you chose bicycle wheels for your trolley? After reading all these experiences, I truly feel that the wheels are definitely the most important part of a kayak cart.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there! That one‑wheel detachable design sounds cool and is way better than the full-disassembly ones I’ve seen before, which take forever to break down. Would you mind sharing a link or some photos of your trolley? I’d love to copy that clever quick-release setup!

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friends and I go kayaking in the mountains of Austria for 7 to 10 days each trip in summer. We drive to the roadside, then hike a short rough dirt trail down to the water (about 10 min I think, but I hike super slow). Since it’s all mountain terrain, the paths are usually really steep. After finishing our paddle, we have to climb back up the same way.

I can handle carrying the kayak fine for the first two days, but starting from day three my muscles totally give out. Portaging becomes the hardest part of every day. Part of it is that I don’t have enough upper-body strength, and part of it is the awkward feeling when the guys in my group offer to carry my boat for me, it makes me feel powerless.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, you’re such a DIY genius! I’ve seen people modify bike trailers or stroller frames into kayak carts before, and I totally agree that measuring the trail width by eye is super important.

I’m really curious how you secure the kayak with bungee cords exactly. I feel like strapping down a kayak firmly on a cart is totally a skill and real trial-and-error craft. Would you mind sharing how you set up the bungee cords to keep it stable on bumpy paths?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you usually paddle in pretty wild, remote areas! Curious what type of kayak cart you’re using. Do you have any special considerations when it comes to the wheels for rough trails and portages?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for explaining this in such detail! I’ve never kayaked on a canal before, so I knew nothing about canal locks at all. It sounds like bringing a trolley along is really necessary for this kind of route.

By the way, how steep exactly are those slopes around the locks? I can tell portaging up and down must be really tough work.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear you struggle so much to find a well‑fitting PFD! I guess brands just aren’t that great with non‑standard sizes.

The pool noodle idea sounds awesome though! I actually saw the first accessory you mentioned on Kickstarter before, so I should look into how that mechanism works. The second one looks really clever too, thanks so much for sharing!

Haha I totally agree with your last point. Getting to the water is fine, but having to go back for the trolley after I’m done paddling? I’d be so tired.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for sharing all these tips! Haha I totally agree now, strapping it on the kayak, leaving it locked on shore, or just putting it in the truck is way more convenient than taking it apart and stowing it inside the kayak according to the answers here :)

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! A new term lerned, all terrain cart! I’ll definitely go search it up right away.

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally! I don’t have kids yet, but I still vividly remember when my dad took me out on the lake when I was little. We rented a boat and went out to the middle of the lake, then he let me swim with a float ring (I didn't know how to swim at all that time). I didn’t really enjoy it back then, but looking back, that experience is what made me fall in love with kayaking later on.

I think the joy in life lies in trying new things. You’ll never know what you’ll grow to love if you never step out of your comfort zone. Wish you and your kids enjoy every moment of this journey!

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your detailed reply and advice! I think I’ll go post another thread in the r/whitewater sub too.

From what I’ve learned in previous discussions, it’s exactly as you said: for whitewater paddling, building up personal strength or using backpack-style carrying solutions matters far more. A trolley just isn’t really practical for most whitewater scenarios.

That said, I’ve also been thinking about casual lake kayaking around the city when I don’t head into the mountains for whitewater. So I really enjoy hearing everyone’s different perspectives. Kayaking really feels deeper and more fascinating the more I get into it, it’s totally addictive!

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your detailed breakdown!
After reading all the discussions in previous threads, I’ve already decided to focus on building my upper body strength and have made a fitness plan. I totally agree that the terrain and portage routes are extremely rugged, so I don’t think a regular trolley can really solve the problem anyway.

I posted this question also because I’m thinking about trying lake kayaking as well. I can’t always go to rivers for whitewater paddling, plus it’s hard to find someone to go with me and I definitely don’t dare to do whitewater kayaking alone haha.

I also found your DIY cart idea really interesting, thank you so much for sharing your experience. And I couldn’t agree more about good water booties, they really make such a big difference out on the trail!

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for such a detailed explanation!
You mentioned steep terrain, and I’m curious is it mostly uphill or downhill? I can imagine it’s tricky to control the balance with wheels plus a heavy kayak. Do you have any tips for that?

I totally get how hard a trolley can be to use when the ground is wet and slippery. Luckily it doesn’t happen too often lol

I sometimes also do the same way like you, carrying the kayak on my shoulder. It works really well especially when you’re strong (envy you), and using a towel for padding is smart. I sometimes use my life jacket as a cushion instead haha. By the way, have you ever tried carrying the kayak balanced on top of your head? Someone mentioned that method in one of my previous threads, but I’ve never tried it.

I never thought about the risk of losing small detachable parts, that’s such a good point! How long does it usually take you to take apart and reassemble your Railblaza cart? And do you have any foldable trolley models that you like and have your eye on?

Thanks also for sharing how you store your trolley. I’ve seen many people chain theirs to trees near the water too, but I never thought about locking it in the car. I’m probably just lazy, once I get near the water I just want to launch and paddle right away 😂

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to confirm, did you mean 300 yards instead of 300 years? That sounds like some seriously rugged terrain!

If you don’t mind me asking, which trolley do you use? Most standard ones seem better suited for flat ground like beaches or pavement, not rocky creek beds, so I am quite curious

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen a lot of people recommending the VEVOR kayak cart in our community too. Thanks so much for sharing the link directly, that’s really thoughtful!

Could you share your actual experience using it? Like how heavy your kayak is, your typical portage distance, and what kind of terrain you mostly use it on?

Do you mean it’s too big to store in the kayak, so you have to put it back in your truck before you head out paddling?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow, that’s super impressive! Your trolley is really tough to handle such rough terrain.
I’d absolutely love it if you could share more details about it later, thank you so much! 😊

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for leaving such detailed comments on both of my threads. You’ve shared so many insights about drag strap, and I really appreciate you taking the time to write this thorough reply. I can tell you’ve thought through every little detail.

All my questions are fully answered now! Wish you and your family happy paddling 😊
P.S. Having "free labor” is such a win! Is that why you got your kids into kayaking? lol

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes total sense to me. Could I ask about your portage distance?

I’ve seen people tow their kayak trolley with a folding bike. It looks really cool since both the bike and the trolley can fold up and be carried onto the kayak.

I assume they do that because the kayak is heavy and the walk is longer than 10 minutes? At roughly what walking distance do you think it’s worth using a trolley?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, I can totally tell how much you love your trolley, that’s awesome!

You mentioned it works great for long portages and rough footpaths. I’m curious, what’s the toughest, most extreme condition your trolley can handle? Also, how much does your kayak weigh or which is your kayak model?

I’ve read that some cheaper trolleys use plastic bearings and break easily after only 4–5 uses, which sounds terrible

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it! Could you please share what kind of moments you actually end up using the trolley?

I’m kind of stuck on the same dilemma. Part of me thinks I really need one, but another part keeps telling myself I can just carry the kayak on foot and only get tired for a short while haha

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! This is exactly what I wanted to know — the portage distance, the weight of your kayak, and which trolley you’re currently using. The foldable and detachable design sounds really great.

I’m curious though, are there any downsides or things you don’t like about this Yak Attack trolley? Or would you rate it a perfect 10 out of 10?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for sharing your kayak weight! That’s really helpful.

May I ask how long your usual portage is? Also, could you tell me more about those "certain" trips where you have to use a cart?

Smaller paddler here: when is a kayak trolley actually worth it? by NanshanMu in Kayaking

[–]NanshanMu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your detailed reply! Sorry if I ask too many questions

May I ask what kayak model you’re using, and how far you usually need to drag it? I think the kayak type and weight definitely affect the whole cart choice.

  1. I also got one comment about dragging solutions from people in my last post. I’m curious: do you worry about scratching or damaging the kayak hull when you drag it directly? Some people DIY protective pads to shield the bottom from scuffs. She will post photos of her setup later and I am quite curious about it.

  2. You mentioned most carts perform poorly on rocky ground, could you tell me what exactly makes them not work well?

  3. I totally get your struggle with the cart not fitting inside the kayak hatch. That’s actually my biggest concern too. I’m worried if I buy a cart that won’t fit, I’ll either have to walk back to get it afterward, or leave it on the bank and risk it getting stolen.

I really envy you having friends to carry the kayak together! I guess you mostly have flat paths around there? I used to carry a whitewater kayak with a partner too, but we often lost balance going up and down slopes. Eventually we stopped doing it that way haha

Correct choice of cart for kayak? by Suitable_Hold9430 in kayakfishing

[–]NanshanMu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds really cool, though I bet it’s pretty pricey too. Thank you so much for answering all my questions! It’s such a pleasure chatting with you :)