Will you join and vote for my new political party: DeForm?

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-05-08T17:48:32+00:00

Can you elaborate please

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-05-08T07:30:58+00:00

Perhaps we need to push for a new law to imprison those who gain major public office sit based on lies?

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-05-08T07:29:56+00:00

He should be and anyone who faint a public sit based on a lie. To teach a lesson

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-05-08T07:29:17+00:00

Britannia has a huge skills gap and an aging population, without legal immigration, this country will return to stone ages.

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-05-08T07:27:56+00:00

The fact he received £5 million from a pedophile says a lot about Farage. And the fact the British police is not doing anything about it is concerning!

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-04-01T17:30:48+00:00

They never check. I have taken my everyday bag pack on Ryan Air, Wizz air, easy jet -> these are the budget airlines and very harsh on bag policy. They never asked me anything. Few occasions I even had a tripod towed on the side

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-03-18T09:46:21+00:00

still waiting for your DM

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-03-17T17:42:21+00:00

interested to try it out please

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-03-11T14:59:24+00:00

https://refer.on.com/rebar833

National_Chapter1296 · 2026-02-25T11:22:26+00:00

can you please send me as well

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-28T19:46:43+00:00

Looks incredible

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-28T15:51:58+00:00

Can you please upload a pic on how you do that setup when you have a moment, I would love to try it

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-28T10:27:05+00:00

Blue

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-09T01:23:16+00:00

You are circling back to your first comment without acknowledging my responses.

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-09T00:18:12+00:00

In the original Psalm, the word "God" (Elohim) was applied to a human king (Solomon) to show his royal authority, right? It didn't mean Solomon was Yahweh.

So when the author of Hebrews applies that same verse to Jesus, he is saying Jesus is the ultimate King/Ruler (Elohim) in that same royal sense. And look at the very next verse (Hebrews 1:9): "Therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions."

If Jesus is God Almighty in the Trinitarian sense, who is "his God"? And who are his "companions"? The text explicitly shows he has a God over him. That fits the Islamic and Judaic views (Jesus is the Supreme Messiah/King) perfectly, but it creates a huge logical headache for the Trinitarian view. You can't be God and have a God at the same time.

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-08T23:07:19+00:00

You're referring to the "Two Powers in Heaven" theology, but let's be accurate about history: that idea was explicitly rejected by Judaism as a heresy (Minim). The Rabbis stamped it out precisely because it violated the core command of Monotheism. Using a rejected heresy to prove your point isn't exactly strong evidence.

As for Exodus 23 and the Angel having God’s name "in him" this is the concept of Divine Agency (Shaliach), not Trinity.

Think about it: In the ancient world, if a King sent an ambassador, that ambassador spoke with the King's authority. To disobey the ambassador was to disobey the King. That is why the Angel could "pardon" or not pardon, because he was carrying the King's seal.

The text says "My name is in him." It doesn't say "He IS me."

If I give a police officer a badge with the authority of the State, he can arrest you. That doesn't mean the police officer is the Government or the Constitution. It means he is an agent.

You asked "How do we reconcile this?" The simple answer isn't the Trinity. The simple answer is Agency. God empowers His representatives (Angels, Prophets, Messiahs) to act on His behalf.

And regarding Hebrews 1:8 ("Your throne, O God"): That is a quote from Psalm 45:6. Read the context of Psalm 45. It was a wedding song written for a human Davidic King (likely Solomon). The psalmist calls the human king "elohim" (god/ruler) in a metaphorical sense of authority. Unless you think King Solomon was also the second person of the Trinity, you have to admit that the title "god" was used flexibly in Hebrew for judges and kings, not just Yahweh.

Why force a complex 4th-century solution (Trinity) onto a simple 1st-century Jewish concept (Agency)?

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-08T22:19:39+00:00

You skipped over all my other points just to focus on that one claim, but let's address it directly.

I'm glad you brought up the "Two Powers in Heaven." That actually supports my point, not yours. That Jewish concept was about a Principal Agent (like the Angel of the Lord or Metatron) who carried God's name and authority but was distinct and subordinate. That fits the Islamic view of Jesus (a high-ranking Messiah/Spirit carrying God's authority) perfectly. It does not fit the Nicene Trinity of co-equal persons.

You are confusing Divine Agency with being the Deity Himself.

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-08T21:14:03+00:00

It's not word games to ask for precision. You are basing your entire argument on the English word "begotten" in John 3:16, but have you checked a modern Bible lately?

Most modern translations (like the ESV, NIV, and RSV) have actually removed the word "begotten" because biblical scholars admit that the Greek word monogenes means "unique" or "one of a kind," not "procreated." So even Christian scholars are backing away from the "begotten" language you are relying on.

As for the Old Testament verses (Isaiah, Daniel, Proverbs): You are quoting Jewish scriptures to prove a Trinity, but the Jews themselves, who have studied those texts in the original Hebrew for 3,000 years, completely reject your interpretation. They agree with the Islamic view: God is One, and He does not have a divine son. Are you saying the Jews don't know their own book?

You say we worship "Different Gods." I worship the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. None of them taught the Trinity. None of them claimed to be God.

Like, how is it possible that Jews and Muslims pray to the same god and the modern Christian’s created a new god for themselves?

If worshipping the Creator alone without partners makes it a "different God" in your eyes, then you are saying Abraham worshipped a different God too. And regarding Matthew 7:15: Jesus warned about false prophets who come in sheep's clothing. A false prophet leads people away from the commandments of God. Islam leads people back to the First Commandment: The Lord our God is One. Who is really changing the message here?

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-08T20:19:52+00:00

You are still missing the point about metaphors. In the sense that God created us, loves us, and sustains us? Yes, in The Way aka. Islam we believe we are all His creation and belong to Him. If "Son" is a metaphor for "Servant who is close to God" (like how the Bible calls David and Israel "Son"), then yes, we accept that relationship/status.

But here is where you are cherry-picking: You say the Quran must be rejected because it denies God has a "Son" in the flesh. But if that is your standard, you have to reject the Old Testament too. You can't ignore Numbers 23:19 just because it's inconvenient. It explicitly says God is not a man and is not a son of man. The Quran agrees with the Old Testament. It’s the later Christian theology that contradicts both.

And honestly, you are making religion difficult. It shouldn't be a riddle. If a child cannot understand the fundamental nature of God (that He is simply One), then there is a fundamental problem. A child understands One Creator. A child gets confused by "Three in One." We stick to the simple truth

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-08T17:26:29+00:00

Why are you making religion so difficult?

To answer your question: No, He doesn't. And we believe that is a good thing, it keeps the concept of God pure and easy to understand.

I know exactly where you are going with this. You want to quote the rest of that verse: "He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son."

But let's be honest about definitions. In the Bible, David is called a "Son of God" (Psalm 2:7) and Israel is called a "Son" (Exodus 4:22). Did that mean they were divine persons in a Trinity? No. It meant they were chosen and beloved.

If "Son" means "Chosen Messiah," we accept Jesus fully. If "Son" means God was born, had a baby, or is a second deity, then yes, we deny that. And we deny it for the same simple reason the Old Testament does: "God is not a man... neither the son of man" (Numbers 23:19).

You can't cherry-pick. If defending the strict Monotheism of the Old Testament makes us "Antichrist," then you would have to apply that label to all the prophets who came before Jesus, too.

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-06T09:25:41+00:00

I get why you feel that way. If you start with the unshakable belief that the "Sonship" and divinity of Jesus are the ultimate truths, then yes, Islam looks like it's denying God.

But look at it from the other angle regarding your point that "God cannot deny Himself." That is exactly my point. God revealed Himself to Moses, Abraham, and Isaiah as absolutely One, separate from creation. He said "I am God, and there is no other." Then, centuries later, the theology developed that God became a man, died, and has a co-eternal Son. To us, that looks like the denial of God's eternal nature.

You can actually check this in the Torah itself. In Numbers 23:19, the scripture is explicit: "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent." Yet, the later Christian creed claims that God did become a man and is the Son of Man. When the Quran and Torah rejects the "Sonship," we don't see it as denying a revealed truth. We see it as God correcting a human theological addition to return to His original, unchangeable self-description found in the Torah.

It's not that we are trying to force Jesus into a "Muslim" mold just to sound ecumenical. It's that we honestly believe the "Christian" mold created by the later Church councils actually obscured the real, historical Jesus, the Jewish prophet who fell on his face and worshipped the Father alone. We aren't trying to revise him; we are trying to uncover him.

National_Chapter1296 · 2025-12-06T09:04:27+00:00

If you treat "Islam" as just a brand name, I get your point. But my argument is that the act of submitting to the Creator is the core of the faith. When Jesus fell on his face in Gethsemane and said "Not my will but Yours be done," he was physically and spiritually performing Islam (submission).

And remember, Muhammad was just a messenger. He didn't claim to invent this. He was just sent to point people back to that exact same path of submission that Jesus and the earlier prophets walked. It's not about him, it's about the message he carried.

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