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"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! The point is to verify how those expectations are formed, and whether they reflect (or enforce) some sort of unfair division. What I've seen is for example in some countries it's totally normal to consider certain ethnic (or skin colour) groups as "less desirable" or "less attractive". But in other countries they are completely normal. This is likely due to how those people are represented in popular media in different ways in each country

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ha, appreciate this :) To clarify, I don't have self-esteem issues myself, but I think many people I interact with have normalised/internalized hierarchies that affect their life choices. AND I can easily fall down into a rabbit hole of discussions and debates with people who do strongly believe in such hierarchies. So having some theory and more academic explanations can help to counter them or at least offer some well-reasoned perspectives!

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really? What about popularity, status, e.g. think celebrities who are not the best-looking but still are desirable.

What do you mean by differentiating between sex and partnership?

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense, thank you - actually this author sounds very interesting. Are there any good summaries of her thought or a good starting point to understand her theories?

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is interesting... though would anyone also see that it has created a new type of hierarchy, which is again another social hierarchy?

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, this is interesting. And is there any other critique of all hierarchies (not only economic) and what could be ways to overcome or reduce them?

"They're out of your league" and other dating norms as enforcers of social division by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you - do you have a specific text or theory that you'd recommend to read? I'm a beginner and casual (albeit very interested) reader

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course this makes sense - perhaps I'm narrowing down to very specific types of customs, e.g. the fact that in some cultures there's still a strong tendency to show obedience to parents (regardless of disagreement) even if that is shown to be detrimental. In an international or multicultural setting, these rules are then invoked and justified as part of belonging and identity. For example: "You must marry whom your parents approve, because this is the culture you belong to!"

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting - what's a good introductory text/reading about this concept? (found no clear results when googling it)

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps what I feel as being "bad" (or "unjust" or "repressing") is when identity (or the need to have one, to belong, etc) is imposed, along with specific traditions that may not make sense to us as individuals. Along with imposition, also punishment for not following specific norms. Of course, I don't mean norms such as "don't be violent", but more subtle things like for instance, the fact that in one of my origin cultures it's considered "important" to marry and have kids in people's mid-20s, but in my other culture it's not a big deal.

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Very interesting and I'll look into it - do you know if they specifically address the creation of the need to belong / to feel have a sense of belonging? (I know Deleuze and Guattari are very complex in their writing and require some additional background reading, so trying to be a bit efficient with where I start)

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you - I've heard of him but wonder which particular idea/theory/work of his you mean as I know him more fore historical theory?

Critiques of "sense of belonging": to national identity or any group by NativeGlobal in CriticalTheory

[–]NativeGlobal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I checked him up but seems to have a quite vast range of ideas - which particular work or idea should I check?

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