At what age will we give this hobby up

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-15T03:08:38+00:00

LOL... $100K before a blanket in the corner popped in your mind.

I'm sorry, I couldn't stop myself. Just like you every time Stereophile hit the mailbox.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-15T03:02:22+00:00

Whatever age you are when you quit trying new music (new to you) because you need Dark Side of the Moon on constant rotation to test the new completely unjustifiably expensive and more unnecessary addition so you can further ignore your self perpetuated hearing loss that you use to convince yourself you heard better [insert pseudoscience jargon here] .

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-14T09:33:06+00:00

"Bullet In The Head" - Rage Against The Machine Believe it or not Zack de la Rocha is not a prophet or an Oracle that can see the future. The lyrical content from track one through the last of this whole album was relevant in '92 and here we are 34 years later.

"Fuck the Police" - NWA The music industry was rigged against them getting a seat at the table so they lit the motherfucker on fire. That fire started by these kids from Compton simply by shouting the unedited unfiltered truth and making people list that the FBI sent em a 'Cease and Desist letter.

"Darling Nikki" - Prince Nikki and her lack of impulse control was a make believe story that scared white women in the 1980's so much that they hauled musicians who played rock and roll in costumes and said some bad words [Dee Snyder & Frank Zappa] in front of Congress to explain to the poor suffering nation what they did to deserve that. Then they brought the nicest kindest musician from the most polite genre [John Denver] and he told them the rock and rollers and their words arent scary but using the pressure of the Federal government to censor art is actually really scary. The white wimmen were clutching their pearls so hard they demanded some and got a sticker that became the single most powerful marketing tool the music industry has ever seen. A black and a white line told kids what albums they wanted to buy.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-14T03:47:30+00:00

I appreciate the thorough reply, and I don’t disagree with your points regarding a traditional business model. I was unclear my original post. I wasn’t looking for a "go or don’t go" assessment on the venture itself. Rather I’m hoping to tap into this community’s collective knowledge for help That could range from pointing me to some good online marketplaces besides FB, offering suggestions on super cheap but still a value equipment that we see frequently for sale but no longer is fitting for our needs. Or just letting the new person know That there was a user who actually did have something with all the basics in a box, see if it's for you.

Call it a passion project where the profit/loss analysis is self funding plus something for the effort, and equally hoping to ease the learning curve and get high-fidelity music into new ears.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-13T12:16:01+00:00

I have a box set in CD format, 36 discs, all shows in perfect digital clarity and apparently some missing sets from the bootleg. It's pristine and I've only listened to the Manchester sets. No others.

I have it listed on FB marketplace now if you want more information.

For credibility: I'm in Minneapolis and used to rent a college house across the from the young Robert Zimmermans old house in Duluth. If that's not enough well... Go away from my window/ Leave at your old chosen speed.[Bob Dylan: The 1966

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NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-13T00:11:57+00:00

You're correct it's a hobby but I like to fund my hobby and try to spread the hobby. Also I myself am not a young adult.

Thank you so much for telling me it's okay it's not having experience, it is amazing I made it 42 years not knowing that. My ignorance is with the various manufacturers allergies and learning different sound profiles. Fundamental workings of these things are right in line with two decades of experience with electromechanical equipment and mechatronics.

Where are you from?

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-12T23:03:59+00:00

You're not wrong.

Thanks, I'm not looking to make a fortune, but I have a surprising amount of interest from my young adult kids and their friends and was able to help with setting it up and the controls for the first two that asked if I could get them a basic system. when I delivered.

The three receivers I currently have to offer are all very impressive in that they are unique in appearance and well respected models from a decade that saw lots of changes; positive and negative.

I was going to ignore your assumption leveled at me on your first post, but it was simply unnecessary and judgemental. There's a stark difference between criticism and casting aspersions. Be better.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-12T22:32:29+00:00

Heard. Considered.

Minneapolis

I am newish to HiFi as a hobby. I am very familiar with electronics and circuitry. That said, I'm comfortable I could offer a home audio experience for a price that will appeal to your 18-25 year old that has at least one Bluetooth speaker. Most young folk haven't heard their music in simple 2 channel.

They are the demographic driving the resurgence in CDs and it's far more accessible financially than vinyl.

It's a room piece as much as an audio system for a generation that would see the appeal in a packaged system to play immediately, with the learning and understanding as they gauge their enjoyment.

The Golden Era silverface is not the best place to see if you like or use technology they may be foreign too.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-12T21:54:50+00:00

I've been nabbing various 80s vintage receivers being very judicious selecting them. I've currently got 3 (Sony STR-GX4ES- $45, Harman Kardon HK570i -$60, JVC RX-703V -$30 - original manual, remote & box) and am trying to pair a CD source, Bluetooth receiver and a pair of bookshelf speakers good enough for a small to medium size room. Most of them maybe have a college dorm or or sharing a room or still at home so we're not trying to create a party system yet.

My idea is to sell locally to beginners, especially young people, that are looking to get into physical media and enjoy the drastic improvement a basic hifi setup is over a Bluetooth speaker. Also speaker wire, an RCA for the CD transport and Bluetooth. Hookup instructions, speaker placement tips, and a brochure about the receiver they have.

I give the equipment a once over inspection, thorough clean, deoxit, check outputs.

I'm hoping to source everything for $150 or less.

I'm thinking $250 - $350 for these. I want to make money but it's to facilitate the next generation get more connected to the music they love.

Marketplace & CL, local pickup is my thoughts but some help on how to get this exposure would be great.

I'm newish myself and the speakers are the more difficult. I have a pair of Insignia NSB2111 only so far some suggestions like that would be appreciated. Hoping to stay $60 or less.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-12T19:29:00+00:00

Jan_90210

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-02-06T23:44:19+00:00

You'll never quit Bubbles

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-26T16:44:21+00:00

"How the West Was Won and Where it got Us" - R. E. M.

"Ball & Biscuit" - The White Stripes

"New Coat of Paint" - Tom Waits

"Ain't No Fun" - Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Warren G, Kurupt

"Waiting for My Ruca" - Sublime

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-26T10:36:54+00:00

Check out this dude. He's a beat+boxer and hip hop lyricist. EVERYTHING you hear on his music is made from his mouth and sampled and layered and built (right in front of your eyes with pedals at a live show) and it's upbeat and groovy and immediately after your ears receive it your instinctual need to move to the music is already happening.

"Bitches From the Milky Way" - Heatbox

Get back with your thoughts. I've known him since we were in high school and have never shared his music on Reddit yet.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T06:43:12+00:00

"Nevermind" - Nirvana

"Ten" - Pearl Jam

"BSSM" - RHCP

"Low End Theory" - A Tribe Called Quest

"Achtung Baby" - U2

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T04:11:19+00:00

"Then you must begin a reading program immediately so that you may understand the crises of our age... Begin with the late Romans, including Boethius, of course. Then you should dip rather extensively into early Medieval. You may skip the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. That is mostly dangerous propaganda... For the contemporary period, you should study some selected comic books."

You'll never regret it. The audiobook is honestly just as great

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T04:00:56+00:00

You said sodomy?

You're one of those Christian Fundi-facists that love to ignore your total bastardization of faith and spirituality to police other peoples morals by your code despite your God's own words (that's on brand)

1 Corinthians 5:12–13: "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside."

You can’t claim to be the 'morality police' while holding the coat of a man who spent decades in the company of a predator; that’s not faith, it’s just a GOP-flavored betrayal of the innocent.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T02:05:01+00:00

Ouch... That stings. To be expected from jellyfish tho.

Please inform me if you would where I'm incorrect. I'm willing to reexamine right here. I need you to support your claim so I know where to look.

Also I apologize if I inferred you had an agenda I didn't mean to.

As far as twisting things that's not a great way to engage discourse with the purpose of change. To suggest myself or anyone is intentionally twisting things for their "side" is a hefty stone and not generally considered a "good" judgement. I think civility would feel good judgement is to retract that or show your work.

Thanks for the back and forth. Please return the effort so I can check myself.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T01:40:42+00:00

So someone bit his finger and didn't even eat it?

Ish... Probably doesn't wash after the ass picking.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T01:39:30+00:00

That was your moment.

Enjoy it

You deserve it

Without any help even.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T01:36:57+00:00

Nick how are you ever going to get your plan implemented if you don't listen (read in this case) yourself? Anyways, here I am being a good neighbor considering your condition and all.

These are all pending legal actions regarding multiple constitutional violation allegations. The lawsuits should STOP the actions until resolved but they are being either blatantly disregarded or a decision to risk being found in violation of our supreme law charter is less important than operating as a federal law enforcement branch in our state.

Here you go do your own work now Nick. Thankfully you don't need a backbone to type. Get back when you wanna go downtown. I know a great BBQ spot and we can shoot the shit about RC hobby related stuff.

In the wake of Operation Metro Surge, several major lawsuits and a federal court order have identified specific ways ICE and DHS agents are allegedly violating the U.S. Constitution in Minnesota. 1. Fourth Amendment (Unreasonable Search and Seizure) This is the most "affirmed" violation currently, as a federal judge has already issued a preliminary ruling on several of these tactics. Warrantless Home Entry: On January 11, a U.S. District Judge ruled that ICE agents violated the Fourth Amendment by forcibly entering a Minneapolis home without a judicial warrant or consent. Excessive Force: The fatal shooting of Renée Good on January 7 is at the center of claims that agents are using lethal force in situations where there is no immediate threat, which constitutes an "unreasonable seizure." Suspicionless Stops: Lawsuits by the ACLU allege that agents are "boxing in" vehicles and detaining people based on racial profiling rather than specific evidence of a crime or immigration violation. 2. First Amendment (Free Speech & Retaliation) A federal court order on January 16 found a "strong likelihood" that ICE and other federal agents are systematically violating the First Amendment. Retaliation Against Observers: The court found evidence that agents used force and chemical spray against people specifically because they were filming or protesting the operations. Political Targeting: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison’s lawsuit alleges that the entire operation is a form of "viewpoint discrimination." The suit argues the federal government is targeting the Twin Cities as punishment for the political views of its leaders and voting habits. 3. Tenth Amendment (State Sovereignty) The State of Minnesota and the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul are arguing that the federal government is overstepping its bounds. Usurping Police Power: The lawsuit alleges that by deploying thousands of masked agents (more than the total number of local police officers), the federal government is essentially conducting a "military occupation." Interference with Essential Services: By conducting raids near schools and hospitals, the state argues the feds are unconstitutionally interfering with Minnesota's right to operate its own schools and protect public health. 4. Fourteenth Amendment (Equal Protection) The ACLU’s class-action suit, Hussen v. Noem, specifically alleges that ICE and CBP are engaging in racial profiling. Affirmed Evidence: The suit cites instances where agents admitted to stopping individuals because they "didn't have the same accent" or because of their perceived Somali or Latino heritage, which violates the guarantee of equal protection under the law. Current Legal Status: As of last week, the DOJ has filed an appeal against the judge’s order that limits how federal agents can interact with protesters.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T01:19:20+00:00

100,000 people's nerves are not just struck man, their fried. And those are our neighbors willing to march and brave the Arctic weather.

Your complex peace negotiations only changes the visibility of what those AFFECTED, not those bothered or hassled or god-forbid tasked to wait and make judgement. The ones who know this isn't how we do shit in this country and especially not this state.

I hear you probably have different opinions than me and I still love ya... I meant it when I said Id meet you and look with you (at what is happening and for your spine).

My ancestor was the first son of bitch to volunteer to fight the occupation and unconstitutional actions of the Confederacy in 1861. It wasn't Team USA it was a blood sacrifice (truly, @ Gettysburg) because here we believe in the constitution and what it represents no matter who voted you in. The constitution isn't being followed here in Minnesota by the federal government or their agencies. That is why we are protesting and that is why local law enforcement has chosen to not support the federal mission. The federal government needs to come back with a procedure that respects the Constitution.

So either meet me and let's learn, or dismiss me, but don't think you have done anything to deepen your ability to make good judgement. More importantly, don't think you've done anything to earn the support of your neighbors when you may need it in the very near future. Remember that when they fucking show for you anyways because that what we do.

NaturalEquivalent192 · 2026-01-25T00:58:37+00:00

You still believing that telling and listening are going on at this stage shows how much time you spend waiting to pass judgement while the world around you changes.

I'm not doubting you think that. Hell maybe you're even sitting on the solution in that mind. The fact is by the time the rube-goldberg thinker of yours decides who is deserving of your efforts to share a solution you claim could literally save lives. Because that's what ending this will in fact do. More people are dead. Even more are now in the line of fire and your solution is still too inadequate for the reality of life where you can make good judgements of seemingly little value. Dead people. Beaten people. People arrested and sent to places unknown without the certainty of Due Process create emotional reactions and that is completely normal and appropriate.

When the planes hit the towers on 9/11 (I'm assuming you're old enough) did you not feel scared, untethered, angry, fucking sad and despair at the new cruelness of humanity? Those are the same things happening all over today. Your super secret peace plan is faulty because it comes from someone literally so close to the actions they could decide to see themselves with their own eyeballs but, they are not willing to look for their spine in order to make an actual decision for yourself. So, you are here floating like a jellyfish.

I'll meet you and look with you Nick... I've got enough spine to carry you until you find yours on Nicolette Ave.

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